On March 1, 2008, 35 Australian Christian ministers apologized for years of antigay defamation and discrimination, which they called “un-Christian.” More ministers would have apologized, but several ministers were threatened into silence by antigay superiors.
Anthony Venn-Brown of Freedom 2 b[e] has just released video of these apologies to gay and gender-variant persons.
Addendum, April 13: Venn-Brown announced via e-mail this evening that the “100 Revs” apology has won an award for Most Outstanding Political Comment from the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras.
Nate, your need to indulge in insult shows that you only give lip service to Biblical teachings. And as for arrogance, I don’t think you should be throwing rocks given the huge glass house you live in.
hahaha, not out ranked…. out numbered. there is a difference. your not intellectually supirior to me… you just have alot more dumb, untrue scientific stats than i do. im not upset with the discussion at all.
“hahaha, not out ranked…. out numbered. there is a difference. your not intellectually supirior to me… you just have alot more dumb, untrue scientific stats than i do. im not upset with the discussion at all.”
Hahaha, not *outranked, *outnumbered. There is a difference. *You’re not intellectually *superior to me…you just have *a *lot more dumb [sic], untrue [sic] scientific stats than I do. *I’m not upset with the discussion at all.
There. Fixed it.
And you can’t reject science because it hurts your feelings. I have a feeling if you saw animals having same gender sex, you’d blame it on “The Fall of Man,” which is a story written about a fictional character named Adam and his fictional wife Eve. It’s a story, Nate. Just like Twilight.
name one animal species speciffically…. and demonstrate the homosexual behavior that they show. tell me why they do it, and how it is a help to their species? the other thing is with genetics and antagonism… passed one way to males and another way to females?
you still havent named one specific type of animal that does this….
OH MY GOD READ THE ARTICLE DUDE.
I’m not going to wipe your a*s for you. Click it. Read it.
And then go and visit my friend Google. All of this information is available on your computer.
And then Google “genetic antagonism.” It’s a newer field of studies that are showing that there is a strong correlation between male homosexuality and female fecundity. In layman’s terms, what that means is that, in a family where there are women who reproduce easily and abundantly, there are more likely to be gay male relatives, and vice versa. The working theory, which seems to be panning out, is that there are genes selected which, when they’re passed on to men, manifest as a homosexual orientation, but when they’re passed on to women, contribute to the very propagation of the human race. It would explain why it stays in the gene pool. It would also partially explain why homosexual behavior is common throughout the animal kingdom.
OH, and you asked for animals that exhibit homosexuality:
Bonobos
Dolphins
Swans
Those are the first three that came to mind.
Rabbits.
(READ THE ARTICLE.)
Nate, you can spare us the pretense that a scientifically derived, rational argument would sway your opinion. You’ve demonstrated by your statements that your animus towards gays is entrenched and furthermore you make it clear that you are willing to violate the teachings of the Bible in order to display that animosity.
Because, PW, their fear of gays has nothing to do with the Bible, at its root. The Bible is the shield they use because it protects them from having to face their actual fears.
i just want to hear it, thats all. and just because animals do it, doesnt make it right either. im not convinced that they do anyway…
All right, you asked for it.
I’m going to Youtube to get you links of animals f*****g. Most entertaining thing I’ve done in the last five minutes.
what makes you people think i am afraid of you??? i disagree with your lifestyle, and believe the bible backs me up there…. but i am in no way whatsoever “afraid” or for that matter have anything against you as people in any way.
“what makes you people think i am afraid of you???”
Your hysterical disconnect from reality, your inability to understand basic logic, your trolling of gay blogs. My theory is that this is the only way you can spend time with gay people without feeling guilty.
And other things. Believe me. I’ve studied your psychosis. I understand that you’re scared. I understand that you’re hiding behind the Bible. I’m not sure whether you’re scared of your true self, or what. But I know that your behavior springs from fear.
My favorite part is at the end when the National Geographic video talks about the dolphins doing each other in the blowhole.
Stephanie Tanner says HOW RUDE!
hahaha, that was interesting. doesnt mean the animals are gay…my male dog humps anything it can mount… my leg, my daughters stuffed gorilla, other dogs male and female…. doesnt mean anything. animals dont think like people do… they dont do it because they want to have sex with the same gender.
How the hell do you know?
Haven’t you ever heard of penguins who choose to pair off with a member of their same gender for life? They’re monogamous.
Have you really lived under a rock your whole life? I feel like I’m talking to a particularly stupid child here, one who’s unwilling/unable to learn.
My favorite part of this discussion is that a guy who likely works at McDonald’s thinks he knows more than scientists who have studied these things their entire lives.
There’s a time to know when you’re completely, yes, outranked, intellectually, by every other commenter in this thread. And then, maybe, you can learn something, instead of puffing up your chest in your fake masculine “pride,” because you think that we’re bothered by you, but really? We’re all just laughing.
Anyway. I’m going to let you continue to get it out of your system, and then I’m probably going to ban you, because you said “you fags” and you don’t do that on a gay website. It’s just one of those things. How long will you get to continue? I DON’T KNOW. Until I decide to push the banning button.
;-)
my cousin is gay…. so thats not it. i have many gay co workers…. thats not it either.i am not sure what you mean by trolling, but the reason i found this sight is because, a radio show i listen to… bob enyart live. bob debated wayne besen. so, i looke dat the sight, and this article pissed me off, so i commented on it. then, you replied to it…. and so on.. my natuiral inclination is to converse when the opportunity comes up. its funny that i have to be gay myself in order to talk like i have been. thats a typical reaction toward any christian from a homo.
how do i know??? how do you know???
No, Nate, it’s just that often people who troll gay websites are closet cases.
And do you treat your gay coworkers and your gay cousin the way you treat people on the internet? Do they know what an unreconstructed bigot you are? Or do they just ignore you?
Oh, and the definition of “trolling” is “going to blogs you disagree with in order to be annoying, to add nothing to the discussion, to say nothing intelligent, but just to take up space.” That’s trolling. You’re a troll.
“how do i know??? how do you know???”
I know because I’m one of the three people at this blog with the power to make your comments disappear. ;-)
Nate, apparently you were pissed off because those ministers said they were wrong for defaming gays. This strongly implies that you approve when gays are mistreated and defamed by others. I’m sure your gay cousin and gay co-workers would love to know that you think they should be treated like dirt. And despite your comments that you don’t have anything against anyone, your name calling and sarcasm say otherwise.
riiiiiggghhhttt……k, i’m a troll. i’ll pray for you, and everyone on here. okay….
Tell your imaginary friend I said “Holla!”
oh please…. im the one who has been treated like dirt here.
Poor pooky.
its cool, i expected nothing less…
you’ll never get the full acceptance, or the rights you are fighting for. mark my words…… sorry guys.
For future reference, when you want to win arguments with smart people, you need to know something about something.
You can’t just crap things onto the comment form and expect your “ideas” to be treated with respect. You have to back them up and “GODSAIDSO” is not an answer.
“you’ll never get the full acceptance, or the rights you are fighting for. mark my words…… sorry guys.”
How do you explain the fact that the only groups who still oppose us are close to death?
In the Maine vote, 81% of college students voted for marriage equality.
California is consistently polling over 50% in support of equality now. Every year, lots of anti-gay old people die, and lots of pro-gay people turn 18.
That’s the hardest part for you — our equality is a foregone conclusion. All the statistical data shows that to be true. That’s why people like you are getting more hysterical.
GOD SAID SO is the only answer!! too bad you dont like that. maybe one day you’ll get it.
none of that is even true…. those are all false stats.
Nate, I’m not buying your victim routine. You are facing opposition after complaining that it was bad for ministers to apologize for mistreating other people. You put yourself in the position of advocating for defamation and discrimination and as such you got called on it. That does not make you a victim nor are you being treated like dirt. You are being challenged to explain how your position is congruent with your religious values and beliefs. Your response has been to indulge in name calling, spurious arguments and sarcasm. At anytime you could have saved face by agreeing to disagree or possibly rethinking your original comment, your refusal to do so is your own choice and cannot be blamed on others.
likewise pw
“none of that is even true…. those are all false stats.”
Hahahahaha, keep telling yourself that, babycakes.
im not rethinking anything i have said. i stand by it, and the word of god backs me up on it.
“GOD SAID SO is the only answer!! too bad you dont like that. maybe one day you’ll get it.”
Nope. Your god is a figment of your imagination. Sorry.
“im not rethinking anything i have said.”
To be “rethinking” you would have first had to be thinking, Nate.
keep taking shots….. just makes you sound childish. im done, im out. go ahead evan…. ban me.
Nate, there is no likewise here, I am not playing victim, you are.
Nate, no the Bible does not back you up, slander is forbidden. If you knew that you wouldn’t have made your initial comment.
Nate sounds so tired.
The Last Gasps of the Wingnut.
I think I’m going to write a play about him.
Evan, the guy listens to Bob Enyart. If he’d OPENED with that bit of info, it would have been enough of a red flag to ignore him. There’s also the little matter of insisting that if a Christian says anything he doesn’t agree with, that person isn’t a “real” Christian.
What a maroon.
I’ve heard of Enyart, and I know he’s some wingnut, but it’s not ringing a bell right now.
How insane is he?
For Enyart see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Enyart
See also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtGx2uPJzQA
Oh wow. He’s one of the truly stupid, truly insane ones.
Nate– you failed to naswer even one of my points about what the bible allegedly says and what Christians actually do.
Divorce is a simple matter. eitheri t is permitted or it isn’t. No questions aobut rape, slander, and everything.
Nate said “if you dont accept that jesus is who he says he is, and you dont accept the bible as the inspired holy word of the living God, then what do you believe in?”.
Maximizing the benefit and minimizing the negative for all in an equal fashion.
Nate asked “where will you go when you die?”
When we die that will be the end of us. That’s why its vital that you make the most of this life and not waste any of it doing things for something that won’t occur once you’re dead.
Nate said “[gayness] does absolutely nothing to benefit the human race, or your precious science.”.
Nonsense. Same sex attractions bring people together, encourage them to care for one another, make such couples happier and more productive which in turn benefits all of society.
Nate said “but i am in no way whatsoever “afraid” or for that matter have anything against you as people in any way.”
Ridiculous. If you had nothing against gays you wouldn’t be calling them fags and ranting about how evil, disgusting, and desstructive they are. If you had nothing against gays you would never have posted here in the first place.
Nate said “[animals] dont do it because they want to have sex with the same gender.”.
Of course they do. If they didn’t want to have sex with the same gender they wouldn’t be having sex with the same gender – case closed.
Nate said “i’ll pray for you, and everyone on here. okay….”.
Oh, sweet! Could you tell the big guy to get me a 2005 Ford GT, black interior, blue exterior, low miles, and in great shape?
Yes, and while he’s getting that car, I would like a pie to magically land on the table next to me, plz. I am in the mood for pie.
Mmmmm, pie. Auggulllaauggaugg.
Which kind of pie? I like the apple kind that has those crumbly things on top.