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	<title>Comments on: Double Standards and Hints of Violence</title>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2008/11/1006/comment-page-1/#comment-8659</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What about all the threats and violence torwards those who disagree with homosexuals? 

Why is it that just because someone takes a stand against the homosexual movement, we are accused of hate and bigotry?&quot;

David,

What about the &quot;christians&quot; like Falwell, Anita Bryant, James Dobson and Tony Perkins pushing for the execution of gay people two times in the late 70&#039;s and early 80&#039;s?

What about all the ACTUAL threats and violence towards gay people throughout the decades, and especially since the 70&#039;s?

Gay people don&#039;t hang outside of straight bars, attacking/killing patrons.  We don&#039;t set off bombs in straight clubs.  We don&#039;t set their homes on fire, just because they&#039;re flying a religious flag outside of their house.

&quot;Christians&quot; are accused of hate and bigotry, because it&#039;s true.  Get rid of people like Dobson, Falwell, and those nuts, and maybe public opinion might start to change.

How would YOU like it if you woke up and saw some Muslim-American religious leader on TV giggling about &quot;oh we&#039;ll let the government decide how to execute the Christians&quot;?  Because the &quot;Christians&quot; have done the same thing to gays, not once, but twice - and not that long ago, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What about all the threats and violence torwards those who disagree with homosexuals? </p>
<p>Why is it that just because someone takes a stand against the homosexual movement, we are accused of hate and bigotry?&#8221;</p>
<p>David,</p>
<p>What about the &#8220;christians&#8221; like Falwell, Anita Bryant, James Dobson and Tony Perkins pushing for the execution of gay people two times in the late 70&#8242;s and early 80&#8242;s?</p>
<p>What about all the ACTUAL threats and violence towards gay people throughout the decades, and especially since the 70&#8242;s?</p>
<p>Gay people don&#8217;t hang outside of straight bars, attacking/killing patrons.  We don&#8217;t set off bombs in straight clubs.  We don&#8217;t set their homes on fire, just because they&#8217;re flying a religious flag outside of their house.</p>
<p>&#8220;Christians&#8221; are accused of hate and bigotry, because it&#8217;s true.  Get rid of people like Dobson, Falwell, and those nuts, and maybe public opinion might start to change.</p>
<p>How would YOU like it if you woke up and saw some Muslim-American religious leader on TV giggling about &#8220;oh we&#8217;ll let the government decide how to execute the Christians&#8221;?  Because the &#8220;Christians&#8221; have done the same thing to gays, not once, but twice &#8211; and not that long ago, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Airhart</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2008/11/1006/comment-page-1/#comment-8657</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Airhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, what threats and violence? Please cite specific incidents and provide proof of the incident from reliable news sources.

Your suggestion that people are accused of hate and bigotry just because they find homosexual behavior disagreeable is false. Bigotry is the stubborn expression of false generalizations about entire classes of people. 

Since you make false generalizations about the &quot;hate and intolerance&quot; of the entire &quot;homosexual population,&quot; you are in fact making bigoted statements. Why be ashamed of that, David? Be proud of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, what threats and violence? Please cite specific incidents and provide proof of the incident from reliable news sources.</p>
<p>Your suggestion that people are accused of hate and bigotry just because they find homosexual behavior disagreeable is false. Bigotry is the stubborn expression of false generalizations about entire classes of people. </p>
<p>Since you make false generalizations about the &#8220;hate and intolerance&#8221; of the entire &#8220;homosexual population,&#8221; you are in fact making bigoted statements. Why be ashamed of that, David? Be proud of it.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2008/11/1006/comment-page-1/#comment-8656</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about all the threats and violence torwards those who disagree with homosexuals? 

Why is it that just because someone takes a stand against the homosexual movement, we are accused of hate and bigotry. 

Interestingly enough, the hate and intolerance seems to be coming from the homosexual population and not the conservatives who are just taking a different position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about all the threats and violence torwards those who disagree with homosexuals? </p>
<p>Why is it that just because someone takes a stand against the homosexual movement, we are accused of hate and bigotry. </p>
<p>Interestingly enough, the hate and intolerance seems to be coming from the homosexual population and not the conservatives who are just taking a different position.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Airhart</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2008/11/1006/comment-page-1/#comment-8631</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Airhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Javy,

In 300 rallies across the nation, only one -- in one neighborhood in L.A. -- suffered from some white racist goons who attempted to disrupt the protest by shouting the N-word.

The other 299+ rallies were peaceful.

Your suggestion that because some goons in L.A. used a racist epithet, therefore all white gay people are violent racist thugs, is itself racist.

Truth Wins Out has been clear about its commitment to black LGBT concerns, and its opposition to scapegoating. And it will remain so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Javy,</p>
<p>In 300 rallies across the nation, only one &#8212; in one neighborhood in L.A. &#8212; suffered from some white racist goons who attempted to disrupt the protest by shouting the N-word.</p>
<p>The other 299+ rallies were peaceful.</p>
<p>Your suggestion that because some goons in L.A. used a racist epithet, therefore all white gay people are violent racist thugs, is itself racist.</p>
<p>Truth Wins Out has been clear about its commitment to black LGBT concerns, and its opposition to scapegoating. And it will remain so.</p>
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		<title>By: javy</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2008/11/1006/comment-page-1/#comment-8624</link>
		<dc:creator>javy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 08:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny, when I read the title for this entry (&quot;Double standards and hints of violence&quot;) I actually thought you were going to discuss the issues of anti black violence in gay rallies in the last few days and how African Americans are being unfairly targeted although many other groups(including white catholics)voted in equally high numbers. But I guess hints of violence toward gays is not as important as hints of violence FROM gays. 
I wonder if white gays in California are outraged and &quot;up in arms&quot; about OUR VERY OWN LGBT blacks being harrashed by OUR VERY OWN marchers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny, when I read the title for this entry (&#8220;Double standards and hints of violence&#8221;) I actually thought you were going to discuss the issues of anti black violence in gay rallies in the last few days and how African Americans are being unfairly targeted although many other groups(including white catholics)voted in equally high numbers. But I guess hints of violence toward gays is not as important as hints of violence FROM gays.<br />
I wonder if white gays in California are outraged and &#8220;up in arms&#8221; about OUR VERY OWN LGBT blacks being harrashed by OUR VERY OWN marchers.</p>
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		<title>By: Buffy</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2008/11/1006/comment-page-1/#comment-8618</link>
		<dc:creator>Buffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 05:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s different when they do it. They&#039;re defending &quot;traditional values&quot; and &quot;the children&quot;.  We&#039;re just being spoiled brats who want to &quot;inflict our hideous lifestyle on everyone&quot;.  Extortion, bribery, threats and even violence are fine when you do it in the name of &quot;family values&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s different when they do it. They&#8217;re defending &#8220;traditional values&#8221; and &#8220;the children&#8221;.  We&#8217;re just being spoiled brats who want to &#8220;inflict our hideous lifestyle on everyone&#8221;.  Extortion, bribery, threats and even violence are fine when you do it in the name of &#8220;family values&#8221;.</p>
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