Comments on: Trouble at Focus on the Family http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2008/11/997/ Fighting antigay lies and the ex-gay myth Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:57:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Scott http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2008/11/997/comment-page-1/#comment-8612 Scott Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:31:58 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=997#comment-8612 "Focus on the Family offered this advice today to heterosexual men." And what dumb advice it is. I'm from a huge family and have close to 30 first-cousins (paternal and maternal sides combined), many of which I attended elem-high school with. Many of them ended up marrying their high school sweethearts shortly after graduation, and most of them are now either divorced or they're in rocky marriages. Those 2 or 3 marriages which are still fine, are the cousins who waited until after college. This is just another FOTF attempt to create more dysfunctional and short-term families. Marry young, have kids, divorce, remarry/procreate more, divorce, remarry/procreate more, divorce, repeat, repeat, and maybe you'll get it right by your 9th marriage. “Focus on the Family offered this advice today to heterosexual men.”

And what dumb advice it is.

I’m from a huge family and have close to 30 first-cousins (paternal and maternal sides combined), many of which I attended elem-high school with. Many of them ended up marrying their high school sweethearts shortly after graduation, and most of them are now either divorced or they’re in rocky marriages. Those 2 or 3 marriages which are still fine, are the cousins who waited until after college.

This is just another FOTF attempt to create more dysfunctional and short-term families. Marry young, have kids, divorce, remarry/procreate more, divorce, remarry/procreate more, divorce, repeat, repeat, and maybe you’ll get it right by your 9th marriage.

]]> By: James http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2008/11/997/comment-page-1/#comment-8559 James Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:33:19 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=997#comment-8559 When I went to a reparative therapy program, the said I needed to act more "manly". Part of my "treatment" would be to play football, drink gatorade, and call other guys "dude". I already do all those things! They're idiots....... When I went to a reparative therapy program, the said I needed to act more “manly”. Part of my “treatment” would be to play football, drink gatorade, and call other guys “dude”.

I already do all those things!

They’re idiots…….

]]> By: Michael Airhart http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2008/11/997/comment-page-1/#comment-8557 Michael Airhart Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:28:01 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=997#comment-8557 Focus on the Family offered this advice today to heterosexual men: <a href="http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000008712.cfm" rel="nofollow">Don't wait until the time is right</a>: Marry young, marry immaturely, and marry with too little money to support a family. Focus on the Family offered this advice today to heterosexual men:

Don’t wait until the time is right: Marry young, marry immaturely, and marry with too little money to support a family.

]]> By: James http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2008/11/997/comment-page-1/#comment-8554 James Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:05:04 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=997#comment-8554 Yeah and I was just thinking also, if reparative therapists jobs are cut, then it would be difficult to find another one because "reparative therapist" would not look good on a resume because of how politically incorrect reparative therapy is because of all the REAL professionals who say it is bogus. Yeah and I was just thinking also, if reparative therapists jobs are cut, then it would be difficult to find another one because “reparative therapist” would not look good on a resume because of how politically incorrect reparative therapy is because of all the REAL professionals who say it is bogus.

]]> By: Michael Airhart http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2008/11/997/comment-page-1/#comment-8548 Michael Airhart Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:24:45 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=997#comment-8548 I agree that donations to FOTF, ostensibly to help heterosexuals and aid religious freedom, are being flushed down the toilet. But I wonder (honestly, I don't know) whether the antigay activities are the least profitable part of FOTF -- or the most profitable. FOTF has long acted like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. One half offers very bland lessons for white Protestant heterosexual men and women to navigate marital struggles through upper-class-white-Protestant stereotypes of what a man or woman should be. The other half warns that the world is in dire straits due to a loss of (special) rights of (white Protestant heterosexual) couples, loss of freedom (from having to share the nation with people who disagree with conservative white Protestants), and loss of (large) business rights (to pollute our air/water/food, waste energy, send our jobs to China, and loot the U.S. Treasury). Which is more profitable -- Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde? I agree that donations to FOTF, ostensibly to help heterosexuals and aid religious freedom, are being flushed down the toilet.

But I wonder (honestly, I don’t know) whether the antigay activities are the least profitable part of FOTF — or the most profitable.

FOTF has long acted like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. One half offers very bland lessons for white Protestant heterosexual men and women to navigate marital struggles through upper-class-white-Protestant stereotypes of what a man or woman should be.

The other half warns that the world is in dire straits due to a loss of (special) rights of (white Protestant heterosexual) couples, loss of freedom (from having to share the nation with people who disagree with conservative white Protestants), and loss of (large) business rights (to pollute our air/water/food, waste energy, send our jobs to China, and loot the U.S. Treasury).

Which is more profitable — Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde?

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2008/11/997/comment-page-1/#comment-8547 Jonathan Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:29:42 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=997#comment-8547 Bravo Wayne, I agree 100%. There's work to do. Why is FotF wasting its time on our families. David and I have been married for 25 years and we volunteered to help Loudoun County's now defunct healthy marriage initiative, but they rejected us and the initiative petered out. Since then, the anti gay industry has invested in book bannings, constitutional amendments and all sorts of worthless nonsense. We're still here and happily married and their marriages are still in trouble, as are their churches. Does this look healthy to you? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/15/AR2008111502626.html Bravo Wayne,

I agree 100%. There’s work to do. Why is FotF wasting its time on our families. David and I have been married for 25 years and we volunteered to help Loudoun County’s now defunct healthy marriage initiative, but they rejected us and the initiative petered out. Since then, the anti gay industry has invested in book bannings, constitutional amendments and all sorts of worthless nonsense. We’re still here and happily married and their marriages are still in trouble, as are their churches.

Does this look healthy to you?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/15/AR2008111502626.html

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