Comments on: Hate Map of Prop. 8 Donors http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/ Fighting antigay lies and the ex-gay myth Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:13:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Church Lady http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-19255 The Church Lady Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:40:29 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=1640#comment-19255 I always thought that Christianity was supposed to be about caring for and helping people. Yet, these so called "Christians", for no reason other than their own pure selfishness, gathered resources and wasted millions and millions of dollars to strip away the rights of other people while helping no one. How is partnering with someone and sharing a life together immoral or illegal, Ralph? It's natural for people to partner for companionship, and naturally people are going to choose partners that they're attracted to. My neighbors live in the exact same house I live in, have no kids like me, have two cars like me, are the same ages as my partner and I, have one pet like us - very similar lives - yet they get to benefit from extra rights just because one of them has a few different body parts. When same sex marriage was legalized in California - nothing changed except that a small amount of people had a few extra rights and were happier because of it. Everyone knows that increased joy causes people to work harder and contribute more to their families, their communities, their states, their countries, and ultimately - the world. Instead of seeing the value in this, and taking notice that absolutely nothing negative happened, the selfish "Christians" allowed hatred to take over and stripped the marriages away with glee. Sounds kind of evil to me; could it be...Satan?!? Eventually same sex marriage will be legalized (obviously), and while they're burning in Hell, maybe these nasty people will realize what a waste this all was, and wish they had spent their time and money doing something good. Now, turn off your computer and go help someone who needs it! I always thought that Christianity was supposed to be about caring for and helping people. Yet, these so called “Christians”, for no reason other than their own pure selfishness, gathered resources and wasted millions and millions of dollars to strip away the rights of other people while helping no one.

How is partnering with someone and sharing a life together immoral or illegal, Ralph? It’s natural for people to partner for companionship, and naturally people are going to choose partners that they’re attracted to. My neighbors live in the exact same house I live in, have no kids like me, have two cars like me, are the same ages as my partner and I, have one pet like us – very similar lives – yet they get to benefit from extra rights just because one of them has a few different body parts.

When same sex marriage was legalized in California – nothing changed except that a small amount of people had a few extra rights and were happier because of it. Everyone knows that increased joy causes people to work harder and contribute more to their families, their communities, their states, their countries, and ultimately – the world. Instead of seeing the value in this, and taking notice that absolutely nothing negative happened, the selfish “Christians” allowed hatred to take over and stripped the marriages away with glee. Sounds kind of evil to me; could it be…Satan?!?

Eventually same sex marriage will be legalized (obviously), and while they’re burning in Hell, maybe these nasty people will realize what a waste this all was, and wish they had spent their time and money doing something good.

Now, turn off your computer and go help someone who needs it!

]]> By: Emily K http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-11028 Emily K Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:56:39 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=1640#comment-11028 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/26/8387 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/26/8387

]]> By: Emily K http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-11027 Emily K Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:56:17 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=1640#comment-11027 Ralph, for a logical and well-thought out answer to your ridiculous "reasoning," troll on over to <a>this blog.</a> Ralph, for a logical and well-thought out answer to your ridiculous “reasoning,” troll on over to this blog.

]]> By: James http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-11023 James Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:12:20 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=1640#comment-11023 "Allowing these marriages is a form of discrimination against a majority of citizens that find homosexual, polygamous, or incestuous relationships to be immoral and illegal." This is also a very ignorant statement. Many atheists would argue that christianity is immoral. Many people would argue that smoking and drinking is immoral, yet that is legal. Years ago, it was believed that black people were unclean. They were given rights even though the vast majority of people were not for black's rights. Minorities are to be protected from the majority. Gay marriage does not affect anyone but same sex couples. This can be seen in all countries where gay marriage has already been legal, such as Canada. If you don't like gay marriage, then don't get one. Simple as that. “Allowing these marriages is a form of discrimination against a majority of citizens that find homosexual, polygamous, or incestuous relationships to be immoral and illegal.”

This is also a very ignorant statement. Many atheists would argue that christianity is immoral. Many people would argue that smoking and drinking is immoral, yet that is legal.

Years ago, it was believed that black people were unclean. They were given rights even though the vast majority of people were not for black’s rights. Minorities are to be protected from the majority. Gay marriage does not affect anyone but same sex couples. This can be seen in all countries where gay marriage has already been legal, such as Canada. If you don’t like gay marriage, then don’t get one. Simple as that.

]]> By: a. mcewen http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-11022 a. mcewen Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:42:46 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=1640#comment-11022 "Allowing these marriages is a form of discrimination against a majority of citizens that find homosexual, polygamous, or incestuous relationships to be immoral and illegal." That's a highly illogical point. I don't see how gay marriage can affect you or discriminate against you unless you are forced to be in one - much like forcing a gay man to be in a marriage with a woman, something that you seem to be advocating. “Allowing these marriages is a form of discrimination against a majority of citizens that find homosexual, polygamous, or incestuous relationships to be immoral and illegal.”

That’s a highly illogical point. I don’t see how gay marriage can affect you or discriminate against you unless you are forced to be in one – much like forcing a gay man to be in a marriage with a woman, something that you seem to be advocating.

]]> By: Ralph http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-11020 Ralph Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:37:13 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=1640#comment-11020 I am here because I googled "hate map." The owners of this site should be proud. Do you go protest in the streets and harass those that believe in the truth as they know it? Do you seriously demand tolerance? You are the intolerant in all this! You demand equality, but you already have it. You like any other American can legally marry a person of the opposite sex. We do not discriminate, it is you that is attempting to redefine marraige. Allowing these marriages is a form of discrimination against a majority of citizens that find homosexual, polygamous, or incestuous relationships to be immoral and illegal. True love is that of a commitment, made despite situation and despite circumstance. The institution of marriage is not the legal contact that enables people to commit to one another. When we love another person we will do whatever it takes to maintain a relationship with them, despite all obstacles, any criticism, and with or without the support of others. Love itself is the contract that enables a commitment that holds firm through ups and downs, keeps us close in sickness and in health, and forsakes all others until death do us part. Love, when pure, does not need a legal contract or entitlements to flourish. I am here because I googled “hate map.” The owners of this site should be proud. Do you go protest in the streets and harass those that believe in the truth as they know it? Do you seriously demand tolerance? You are the intolerant in all this! You demand equality, but you already have it. You like any other American can legally marry a person of the opposite sex. We do not discriminate, it is you that is attempting to redefine marraige. Allowing these marriages is a form of discrimination against a majority of citizens that find homosexual, polygamous, or incestuous relationships to be immoral and illegal.
True love is that of a commitment, made despite situation and despite circumstance. The institution of marriage is not the legal contact that enables people to commit to one another. When we love another person we will do whatever it takes to maintain a relationship with them, despite all obstacles, any criticism, and with or without the support of others. Love itself is the contract that enables a commitment that holds firm through ups and downs, keeps us close in sickness and in health, and forsakes all others until death do us part. Love, when pure, does not need a legal contract or entitlements to flourish.

]]> By: Scott http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-10855 Scott Wed, 21 Jan 2009 03:39:10 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=1640#comment-10855 "Seriously, why do these Christians find such satisfaction in doing this?" Because they're lunatics? Oh, and it's "christians", NOT "Christians". Using a capital "C" is like giving them some special title of authority. They ARE special, but like Corky from "Life Goes On". “Seriously, why do these Christians find such satisfaction in doing this?”

Because they’re lunatics?

Oh, and it’s “christians”, NOT “Christians”. Using a capital “C” is like giving them some special title of authority.

They ARE special, but like Corky from “Life Goes On”.

]]> By: Michael Airhart http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-10853 Michael Airhart Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:23:52 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=1640#comment-10853 Danielg has ignored requests to: 1) keep his comments on-topic 2) stop distorting his cited sources 3) document in detail how those sources substantiate his claims This trolling is unacceptable, and I'm conditionally banning Danielg until he demonstrates an ability to behave. Danielg has ignored requests to:

1) keep his comments on-topic
2) stop distorting his cited sources
3) document in detail how those sources substantiate his claims

This trolling is unacceptable, and I’m conditionally banning Danielg until he demonstrates an ability to behave.

]]> By: Emproph http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-10851 Emproph Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:31:38 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=1640#comment-10851 <I>Seriously, why do these Christians find such satisfaction in doing this?</I> Apparently, only people who enjoy saying "I told you so" get into heaven. Seriously, why do these Christians find such satisfaction in doing this?

Apparently, only people who enjoy saying “I told you so” get into heaven.

]]> By: Emily K http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-10849 Emily K Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:52:47 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=1640#comment-10849 I don't get it. Isn't having the commenters on his OWN blog patting him on the back enough?? He has to troll over to the pro-equality blogs and try to rile up "teh gheys?" His comment might as well have been "Mathew Shepard brought it on himself by being flirtacious" (if the topic was about him.) Seriously, why do these Christians find such satisfaction in doing this? Where exactly does this fit in a biblical worldview? I don’t get it. Isn’t having the commenters on his OWN blog patting him on the back enough?? He has to troll over to the pro-equality blogs and try to rile up “teh gheys?” His comment might as well have been “Mathew Shepard brought it on himself by being flirtacious” (if the topic was about him.) Seriously, why do these Christians find such satisfaction in doing this? Where exactly does this fit in a biblical worldview?

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