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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-11028</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-11027</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph, for a logical and well-thought out answer to your ridiculous &quot;reasoning,&quot; troll on over to &lt;a&gt;this blog.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph, for a logical and well-thought out answer to your ridiculous &#8220;reasoning,&#8221; troll on over to <a>this blog.</a></p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-11023</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Allowing these marriages is a form of discrimination against a majority of citizens that find homosexual, polygamous, or incestuous relationships to be immoral and illegal.”

This is also a very ignorant statement. Many atheists would argue that christianity is immoral. Many people would argue that smoking and drinking is immoral, yet that is legal.

Years ago, it was believed that black people were unclean. They were given rights even though the vast majority of people were not for black&#039;s rights. Minorities are to be protected from the majority. Gay marriage does not affect anyone but same sex couples. This can be seen in all countries where gay marriage has already been legal, such as Canada. If you don&#039;t like gay marriage, then don&#039;t get one. Simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Allowing these marriages is a form of discrimination against a majority of citizens that find homosexual, polygamous, or incestuous relationships to be immoral and illegal.”</p>
<p>This is also a very ignorant statement. Many atheists would argue that christianity is immoral. Many people would argue that smoking and drinking is immoral, yet that is legal.</p>
<p>Years ago, it was believed that black people were unclean. They were given rights even though the vast majority of people were not for black&#8217;s rights. Minorities are to be protected from the majority. Gay marriage does not affect anyone but same sex couples. This can be seen in all countries where gay marriage has already been legal, such as Canada. If you don&#8217;t like gay marriage, then don&#8217;t get one. Simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: a. mcewen</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-11022</link>
		<dc:creator>a. mcewen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Allowing these marriages is a form of discrimination against a majority of citizens that find homosexual, polygamous, or incestuous relationships to be immoral and illegal.&quot;

That&#039;s a highly illogical point. I don&#039;t see how gay marriage can affect you or discriminate against you unless you are forced to be in one - much like forcing a gay man to be in a marriage with a woman, something that you seem to be advocating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Allowing these marriages is a form of discrimination against a majority of citizens that find homosexual, polygamous, or incestuous relationships to be immoral and illegal.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a highly illogical point. I don&#8217;t see how gay marriage can affect you or discriminate against you unless you are forced to be in one &#8211; much like forcing a gay man to be in a marriage with a woman, something that you seem to be advocating.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-11020</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am here because I googled &quot;hate map.&quot; The owners of this site should be proud. Do you go protest in the streets and harass those that believe in the truth as they know it? Do you seriously demand tolerance? You are the intolerant in all this! You demand equality, but you already have it. You like any other American can legally marry a person of the opposite sex. We do not discriminate, it is you that is attempting to redefine marraige. Allowing these marriages is a form of discrimination against a majority of citizens that find homosexual, polygamous, or incestuous relationships to be immoral and illegal.  
  True love is that of a commitment, made despite situation and despite circumstance. The institution of marriage is not the legal contact that enables people to commit to one another. When we love another person we will do whatever it takes to maintain a relationship with them, despite all obstacles, any criticism, and with or without the support of others. Love itself is the contract that enables a commitment that holds firm through ups and downs, keeps us close in sickness and in health, and forsakes all others until death do us part. Love, when pure, does not need a legal contract or entitlements to flourish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am here because I googled &#8220;hate map.&#8221; The owners of this site should be proud. Do you go protest in the streets and harass those that believe in the truth as they know it? Do you seriously demand tolerance? You are the intolerant in all this! You demand equality, but you already have it. You like any other American can legally marry a person of the opposite sex. We do not discriminate, it is you that is attempting to redefine marraige. Allowing these marriages is a form of discrimination against a majority of citizens that find homosexual, polygamous, or incestuous relationships to be immoral and illegal.<br />
  True love is that of a commitment, made despite situation and despite circumstance. The institution of marriage is not the legal contact that enables people to commit to one another. When we love another person we will do whatever it takes to maintain a relationship with them, despite all obstacles, any criticism, and with or without the support of others. Love itself is the contract that enables a commitment that holds firm through ups and downs, keeps us close in sickness and in health, and forsakes all others until death do us part. Love, when pure, does not need a legal contract or entitlements to flourish.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-10855</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 03:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Seriously, why do these Christians find such satisfaction in doing this?&quot;

Because they&#039;re lunatics?

Oh, and it&#039;s &quot;christians&quot;, NOT &quot;Christians&quot;.  Using a capital &quot;C&quot; is like giving them some special title of authority.  

They ARE special, but like Corky from &quot;Life Goes On&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Seriously, why do these Christians find such satisfaction in doing this?&#8221;</p>
<p>Because they&#8217;re lunatics?</p>
<p>Oh, and it&#8217;s &#8220;christians&#8221;, NOT &#8220;Christians&#8221;.  Using a capital &#8220;C&#8221; is like giving them some special title of authority.  </p>
<p>They ARE special, but like Corky from &#8220;Life Goes On&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Airhart</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-10853</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Airhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danielg has ignored requests to:

1) keep his comments on-topic
2) stop distorting his cited sources
3) document in detail how those sources substantiate his claims

This trolling is unacceptable, and I&#039;m conditionally banning Danielg until he demonstrates an ability to behave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danielg has ignored requests to:</p>
<p>1) keep his comments on-topic<br />
2) stop distorting his cited sources<br />
3) document in detail how those sources substantiate his claims</p>
<p>This trolling is unacceptable, and I&#8217;m conditionally banning Danielg until he demonstrates an ability to behave.</p>
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		<title>By: Emproph</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-10851</link>
		<dc:creator>Emproph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Seriously, why do these Christians find such satisfaction in doing this?&lt;/I&gt;

Apparently, only people who enjoy saying “I told you so” get into heaven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Seriously, why do these Christians find such satisfaction in doing this?</i></p>
<p>Apparently, only people who enjoy saying “I told you so” get into heaven.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-10849</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it. Isn&#039;t having the commenters on his OWN blog patting him on the back enough?? He has to troll over to the pro-equality blogs and try to rile up &quot;teh gheys?&quot; His comment might as well have been &quot;Mathew Shepard brought it on himself by being flirtacious&quot; (if the topic was about him.) Seriously, why do these Christians find such satisfaction in doing this? Where exactly does this fit in a biblical worldview?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it. Isn&#8217;t having the commenters on his OWN blog patting him on the back enough?? He has to troll over to the pro-equality blogs and try to rile up &#8220;teh gheys?&#8221; His comment might as well have been &#8220;Mathew Shepard brought it on himself by being flirtacious&#8221; (if the topic was about him.) Seriously, why do these Christians find such satisfaction in doing this? Where exactly does this fit in a biblical worldview?</p>
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		<title>By: adrianT</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/01/1640/comment-page-1/#comment-10848</link>
		<dc:creator>adrianT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel: but one world view is based on reason, evidence, logic. The other is based on nothing but superstition, and thus is so off the scale, it&#039;s not worth considering. 

Scientific theories explain the facts. They make testable, quantifiable, precise predictions.  We know evolution is fact, not because of a book written 150 years ago, but because of the overwhelming evidence from the fossil record, the DNA record (in particular, junk DNA), anthropology, the geological record. Why not speak to people who have the facts, like paleontologists, instead of fanatics like AiG, whose aim is simply to shore up your beliefs? Or visit a museum. If a more plausible explanation for the origins of life and the cosmos comes along, I will accept it. Would you?

As a Christian, you no doubt see the virtue in being humble. Yet, you not only claim to know there is a mind at work in the universe, you know exactly who is responsible - who has &#039;designed&#039; the HIV virus. How incredibly arrogant. (I suggest you look at this incidentally:  http://endogenousretrovirus.blogspot.com/2007/11/hello-again-michael-behe.html ).  If you&#039;re going to claim intelligent design for HIV, well let&#039;s claim it for ebola, or river blindness, caused by worms that can only survive by eating away the human eye; or the digger wasp whose larvae eat their paralysed prey alive from the inside. 

As for the gay issue - well, it&#039;s your job to prove it&#039;s a moral issue, and best of luck to you, because the evidence is that gay people are just as likely to be morally upstanding as straight people. You post links to third-rate research, mostly from hard-line religious people – and let’s face it, that’s what NARTH are; all they have done is show that changing sexuality is very improbable, and most importantly, undesirable.   

You&#039;re wrong about the age of the earth (by a factor of nearly a million)- why can&#039;t you be adult and admit you are equally clueless about sexuality, especially when all scientific opinion is against you? Do you have a reason for any of your beliefs, or is it just based on what you were brought up to believe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel: but one world view is based on reason, evidence, logic. The other is based on nothing but superstition, and thus is so off the scale, it&#8217;s not worth considering. </p>
<p>Scientific theories explain the facts. They make testable, quantifiable, precise predictions.  We know evolution is fact, not because of a book written 150 years ago, but because of the overwhelming evidence from the fossil record, the DNA record (in particular, junk DNA), anthropology, the geological record. Why not speak to people who have the facts, like paleontologists, instead of fanatics like AiG, whose aim is simply to shore up your beliefs? Or visit a museum. If a more plausible explanation for the origins of life and the cosmos comes along, I will accept it. Would you?</p>
<p>As a Christian, you no doubt see the virtue in being humble. Yet, you not only claim to know there is a mind at work in the universe, you know exactly who is responsible &#8211; who has &#8216;designed&#8217; the HIV virus. How incredibly arrogant. (I suggest you look at this incidentally:  <a href="http://endogenousretrovirus.blogspot.com/2007/11/hello-again-michael-behe.html" rel="nofollow">http://endogenousretrovirus.blogspot.com/2007/11/hello-again-michael-behe.html</a> ).  If you&#8217;re going to claim intelligent design for HIV, well let&#8217;s claim it for ebola, or river blindness, caused by worms that can only survive by eating away the human eye; or the digger wasp whose larvae eat their paralysed prey alive from the inside. </p>
<p>As for the gay issue &#8211; well, it&#8217;s your job to prove it&#8217;s a moral issue, and best of luck to you, because the evidence is that gay people are just as likely to be morally upstanding as straight people. You post links to third-rate research, mostly from hard-line religious people – and let’s face it, that’s what NARTH are; all they have done is show that changing sexuality is very improbable, and most importantly, undesirable.   </p>
<p>You&#8217;re wrong about the age of the earth (by a factor of nearly a million)- why can&#8217;t you be adult and admit you are equally clueless about sexuality, especially when all scientific opinion is against you? Do you have a reason for any of your beliefs, or is it just based on what you were brought up to believe?</p>
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