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	<title>Comments on: Exodus Covers Up Its Antiscientific Redefinition of Sexual Orientation</title>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/05/3010/comment-page-1/#comment-12288</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 14:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For however much longer they last, don&#039;t expect Exodus or any of its reps to be truthful about anything.

Seriously, when has Alan or Randy been truthful about ANYTHING?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For however much longer they last, don&#8217;t expect Exodus or any of its reps to be truthful about anything.</p>
<p>Seriously, when has Alan or Randy been truthful about ANYTHING?</p>
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		<title>By: Mariya</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/05/3010/comment-page-1/#comment-12275</link>
		<dc:creator>Mariya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 03:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted the same comment on goodasyou.org...HETEROSEXUALITY is listed among the &quot;30 orientations&quot;! Read the list carefully, it&#039;s right before &quot;homosexual/gay/lesbian.&quot; So even while this definition was up, anyone taking the time to read at least half-way down the list would get an interesting surprise. 

Somebody needs better copyeditors lol...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted the same comment on goodasyou.org&#8230;HETEROSEXUALITY is listed among the &#8220;30 orientations&#8221;! Read the list carefully, it&#8217;s right before &#8220;homosexual/gay/lesbian.&#8221; So even while this definition was up, anyone taking the time to read at least half-way down the list would get an interesting surprise. </p>
<p>Somebody needs better copyeditors lol&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Airhart</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/05/3010/comment-page-1/#comment-12274</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Airhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 03:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these questions may be overshadowed by the unfortunate fact that several Exodus leaders deny the very existence of sexual orientation.

In this view, all people are heterosexual, and some people merely have a struggle with homosexual temptation caused by childhood trauma or bad parenting. It is said that these heterosexuals could rid themselves of their homosexual temptation if they really wanted to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these questions may be overshadowed by the unfortunate fact that several Exodus leaders deny the very existence of sexual orientation.</p>
<p>In this view, all people are heterosexual, and some people merely have a struggle with homosexual temptation caused by childhood trauma or bad parenting. It is said that these heterosexuals could rid themselves of their homosexual temptation if they really wanted to.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Mills</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/05/3010/comment-page-1/#comment-12273</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 03:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But WHY?  I just can&#039;t get that question out of my mind.  Why do they suddenly give a crap about being truthful?  They certainly don&#039;t care what anyone in the LGBT community think about their lies.  They also have been fully aware of their lies for the entire time that they have been perpetuating them.  And, it isn&#039;t like any of the hordes who listen to them care to do any independent research to fact-check them.  And (the biggest of all of the ANDs), the other lying liars need a source that they can quote that gives them &quot;some&quot; plausible deniability if they ever get trapped in the lie.  

So WHY??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But WHY?  I just can&#8217;t get that question out of my mind.  Why do they suddenly give a crap about being truthful?  They certainly don&#8217;t care what anyone in the LGBT community think about their lies.  They also have been fully aware of their lies for the entire time that they have been perpetuating them.  And, it isn&#8217;t like any of the hordes who listen to them care to do any independent research to fact-check them.  And (the biggest of all of the ANDs), the other lying liars need a source that they can quote that gives them &#8220;some&#8221; plausible deniability if they ever get trapped in the lie.  </p>
<p>So WHY??</p>
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		<title>By: Monte Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/05/3010/comment-page-1/#comment-12271</link>
		<dc:creator>Monte Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 00:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former member of Exodus I can only wonder. What Exodus is really peddling is an intense sense of peer pressure to redefine yourself as broken and in need spiritual repair contingent on you accepting the message that your deepest natural sexual identity is immoral. If evangelicals put a fraction of the energy they are only too happy to put forth to convince gay people that they need to be asexual until their sexual identity magically turns heterosexual, to reverse the alienation and condescension of churches and determined commitment to deny glbt American citizens our most basic civil rights, they would have much more evangelical success. The whole message of The messiah was to teach the world that gods people are so based on love; love for god and love for and respect for others. Instead the larger church has created a religious war on glbt Americans, becoming a tool of anti-christian political and spiritual violence. Why do these people love bacon and shrimp while they claim some unique understanding of The Word of God. I rebuke you, in Jesus name, you whore of Babylon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former member of Exodus I can only wonder. What Exodus is really peddling is an intense sense of peer pressure to redefine yourself as broken and in need spiritual repair contingent on you accepting the message that your deepest natural sexual identity is immoral. If evangelicals put a fraction of the energy they are only too happy to put forth to convince gay people that they need to be asexual until their sexual identity magically turns heterosexual, to reverse the alienation and condescension of churches and determined commitment to deny glbt American citizens our most basic civil rights, they would have much more evangelical success. The whole message of The messiah was to teach the world that gods people are so based on love; love for god and love for and respect for others. Instead the larger church has created a religious war on glbt Americans, becoming a tool of anti-christian political and spiritual violence. Why do these people love bacon and shrimp while they claim some unique understanding of The Word of God. I rebuke you, in Jesus name, you whore of Babylon.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Airhart</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/05/3010/comment-page-1/#comment-12267</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Airhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exodus&#039; re-re-definition of orientation states that orientation is &quot;easily distinguished from other components of sexuality.&quot;

Sure it&#039;s easy -- but apparently not easy enough for Exodus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exodus&#8217; re-re-definition of orientation states that orientation is &#8220;easily distinguished from other components of sexuality.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure it&#8217;s easy &#8212; but apparently not easy enough for Exodus.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Airhart</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/05/3010/comment-page-1/#comment-12266</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Airhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just yesterday, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/politicized-churches-supplant-exodus-shrinking-ex-gay-network/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Exodus boasted to churches&lt;/a&gt; that the organization proclaims &quot;biblical truth and Christ-like compassion.&quot;

Yet Exodus apparently wanted churches to believe that Jesus spent his three-year ministry &quot;compassionately&quot; equating same-sex-attracted people with bestiality and corpse sex. 

Exodus apparently reads some bible other than the Christian Bible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just yesterday, <a href="http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/politicized-churches-supplant-exodus-shrinking-ex-gay-network/" rel="nofollow">Exodus boasted to churches</a> that the organization proclaims &#8220;biblical truth and Christ-like compassion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet Exodus apparently wanted churches to believe that Jesus spent his three-year ministry &#8220;compassionately&#8221; equating same-sex-attracted people with bestiality and corpse sex. </p>
<p>Exodus apparently reads some bible other than the Christian Bible.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy/G-A-Y</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy/G-A-Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice!</p>
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