I guess my only point was that we don’t have to allow the reach of Prop 8 to extend beyond the situations where it is enforceable by law.

Our opponents ask why we can’t just be happy with DP or CU designation, as long as they provide the same provisions as marriage. The irony is that they, via money spent and screaming, provide all the evidence that we can never be equal without the M-word. But the word can be used in the culture, and there isn’t any legal action they can take to stop it.

Sounds like a good idea. If only EVERY state had domestic partnerships for same-sex couples and if only employers, etc did not only want to see the word “marriage”.

I live in New Jersey, and we got Civil Unions here and in the past whenever I applied for a job and put down that I got a Civil Union, they said, “No that’s not good enough, we want to see the word ‘married’”.

I would of course have absolutely NO problem with making it to where same-sex unions had only domestic partnerships and Civil Unions as long as the DP or CU had ALL of the rights and benefits of marriage(Federal AND State)and people respected it AS MUCH as an actual Marriage.

But wording doesn’t really matter. If making DP’s and/or CU’s the same as Marriage, then why not just call it marriage for same-sex couples as well? You ask us why we should have a problem with the wording, but what about you? Why do you have a problem with the wording?

Eventually the state would just look stupid still denying the use of a word that was in common usage throughout the culture.

It’s like eating liver. How many people eat liver? It’s probably a minority. But if you were to consider putting it up for ballot whether liver should be legal or not, most likely people would say, “Why? What’s the need? If you don’t like liver don’t eat it.” It’s logical. Make eating liver legal, and if you don’t like it, just don’t eat it. Plain and simple.

Same thing here, you don’t like gay marriage, then don’t marry someone of the same sex.

Gay marriage advocates are NOT pushing their way on society. If they were, then they would be trying to fight to make it to where the ONLY form of valid unions would be same sex marriage. They’re not. There trying to legalize same-sex marriage along WITH heterosexual marriage. Opponents of gay marriage on the other hand, they are trying to make it to where the only form of valid unions are heterosexual marriage.

So that’s why it’s safe to say that they are forcing their way on society, while we’re not. We’re just trying to make the OPTION of marrying the same sex. No one on our side said you have to marry a member of the same sex. THEY on the other hand ARE saying you have to marry a member of the opposite sex.

So in the end, that’s why we’re gonna win. Because our side is more fair.

Personally, I know my social-justice cousins are supportive of me, and I’m sure they’re as mortified as I am. Really, one of them has said they won’t get married until we all can (not that I’m going to hold her to it :).