Folks like Brad tend not to read their Bibles, so much as they worship the closed book and insist that God stopped talking to humankind 1,900 years ago.

In their view, God is substantially dead. How ironic, considering their false belief that liberals consider God to be dead.

1. The Bible is not ABOUT homosexuality. The very few references to homosexual behaviour in the Bible were written at a time when knowledge of the subject was extremely sketchy, and they are scarcely relevant to the Bible’s central message. To say that “scripture makes clear today as it has for the past 2000 years that homosexuality is NOT part of God’ plan for humman relationships” is something of an overstatement.

2. The Bible is not infallible. There is no such thing as an infallible book (or collection of books, which is what the Bible actually is).

But FOTF chose to focus on the wrong things, when even Paul in the Bible that celibacy is encouraged among heteros, and marriage is to actually avoid adultery!

I guess Our Saviour knew this all along. After all, today heteros probably chose to commit adultery with a person like Carrie Prejean in their hearts by looking at her racy photos and at the same time justify discrimination, because of the lust that burns in their hearts is much stronger than letting same-sex couples who are monogamous and committed enough with each other, to get married.

I find this fact disturbing, FOTF actually did not question Carrie’s sexual escapades in front of the camera at all, and yet with her almost naked body still fresh on everyone’s minds, they still want her to speak.

That means FOTF is not only anti-gay, but they actually promote a sexually charged heterosexual lifestyle. Which means they directly encourage teens into sexual release like masturbation and are responsible, even in their silence, unwanted pregnancies.

When this is their sinful stance, God help those innocent children who via parents are brought up by FOTF.

It’s so strange how “christians” only follow the parts of the bible they WANT to follow, and any parts they don’t want to follow they conveniently say “those bible passages are debatable” or “we don’t have to follow those parts anymore” or “we no longer interpret them like that anymore”.

It’s unfortunate that you offer blanket approval of ex-gay wrongdoing. And it’s unfortunate that you repeatedly sidestep the actual criticisms of ex-gays on this site, and instead invent strawman arguments.

Idolatry of the Bible is unchristian and hypocritical; the Bible itself rejects legalism and literalism as forms of idolatry, and you seem willing to sin when it’s convenient.

It is hateful for Exodus to promote vigilantism and violence in Barbados and Uganda.

It is hateful for ex-gays to lie about the values, lifestyles, and spirituality of gay people, and to promote discrimination, ostracism, and bullying on the basis of those lies.

It is immoral for ex-gays to lie to the public about their own failure to change, to lie about research data about ex-gays and homosexuality, and to commit impenitent immorality while issuing false moral judgments against the innocent.

It is immoral for ex-gays to dishonestly (and without substantiation) project their own efforts to intimidate and suppress gay people (particularly in schools, churches, and the media) onto gay people.