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	<description>Fighting antigay lies and the ex-gay myth</description>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/06/3308/comment-page-1/#comment-12595</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack Spratt,

I&#039;d like to date and marry your son.  I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll recognize that I can change from being a lesbian to wholeheartedly heterosexual.  I&#039;m certain I can make him happy and that I&#039;ll be str8 forever.

I have a gay friend who&#039;d like to date your daughter as well.  I&#039;m sure you could change him too.  He&#039;s committed to changing his ways too - God be willing!

What do you think?  Ready to take a chance?

You betcha!

Audrey

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Spratt,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to date and marry your son.  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll recognize that I can change from being a lesbian to wholeheartedly heterosexual.  I&#8217;m certain I can make him happy and that I&#8217;ll be str8 forever.</p>
<p>I have a gay friend who&#8217;d like to date your daughter as well.  I&#8217;m sure you could change him too.  He&#8217;s committed to changing his ways too &#8211; God be willing!</p>
<p>What do you think?  Ready to take a chance?</p>
<p>You betcha!</p>
<p>Audrey</p>
<p>Audrey</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/06/3308/comment-page-1/#comment-12588</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having looked at the Journal of Human Sexuality online just now, I see that its editor is none other than the notorious George Rekers, and that it contains articles by (among others) Jeffrey Satinover, Judith Reisman, Joe Dallas, Anita Worthern, Bob Davies and -- God help us -- Peter LaBarbera and Scott Lively.

Whatever else this is, it sure as hell isn&#039;t a scientific journal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having looked at the Journal of Human Sexuality online just now, I see that its editor is none other than the notorious George Rekers, and that it contains articles by (among others) Jeffrey Satinover, Judith Reisman, Joe Dallas, Anita Worthern, Bob Davies and &#8212; God help us &#8212; Peter LaBarbera and Scott Lively.</p>
<p>Whatever else this is, it sure as hell isn&#8217;t a scientific journal.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/06/3308/comment-page-1/#comment-12582</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I do agree with you on one thing Jack, that we cannot commit things that would be harmful to us. That is why we should accept ourselves for who we are.

While there may be problems associated with homosexuality, there is only the problems that society gives us. When we learn to accept ourselves for who we are, then we don&#039;t have any problems relating to our homosexuality.

I have tried to change. It did not work. I tried being with girls, nothing made me as happy as being with another man. I am living proof that homosexuality is not like ANYTHING that &quot;NARTH&quot; says it is. I don&#039;t need any proof of it either, because I AM the proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I do agree with you on one thing Jack, that we cannot commit things that would be harmful to us. That is why we should accept ourselves for who we are.</p>
<p>While there may be problems associated with homosexuality, there is only the problems that society gives us. When we learn to accept ourselves for who we are, then we don&#8217;t have any problems relating to our homosexuality.</p>
<p>I have tried to change. It did not work. I tried being with girls, nothing made me as happy as being with another man. I am living proof that homosexuality is not like ANYTHING that &#8220;NARTH&#8221; says it is. I don&#8217;t need any proof of it either, because I AM the proof.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/06/3308/comment-page-1/#comment-12581</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind Jack Spratt,

I just did a little research and found that this &quot;Peer reviewed scientific Journal&quot; is &quot;The Electronic Journal of Human Sexuality&quot;.

That journal is an unnaccredited vocational school that endorses the sale of penis enhancement pills.

Their statement: &quot;The only products for which the Institute has granted a license for these names to be used are:  Vigorex forte and Vigorex femme (US  trademarks); Passion&#039;s Fire; Pleasure; Nutrisex; ProformRX; Improvex and Climatique.&quot;

Here is where I found the article: http://www.tips-q.com/1064151-pray-away-gay-and-penis-pills

Now it&#039;s a pro-gay article, but the link to the journal&#039;s website is right there in the article.

Of course, there is also a possibility that it could just be &quot;the Journal of human sexuality&quot; (without the word &quot;electronic&quot; word in it. Even still, that is a journal dealing in science from a Christian perspective. And of course, Christians are biased against homosexuality and would be inclined to say something like that about it.

Here is their website: http://www.leaderu.com/jhs/

Try again Jakey!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind Jack Spratt,</p>
<p>I just did a little research and found that this &#8220;Peer reviewed scientific Journal&#8221; is &#8220;The Electronic Journal of Human Sexuality&#8221;.</p>
<p>That journal is an unnaccredited vocational school that endorses the sale of penis enhancement pills.</p>
<p>Their statement: &#8220;The only products for which the Institute has granted a license for these names to be used are:  Vigorex forte and Vigorex femme (US  trademarks); Passion&#8217;s Fire; Pleasure; Nutrisex; ProformRX; Improvex and Climatique.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here is where I found the article: <a href="http://www.tips-q.com/1064151-pray-away-gay-and-penis-pills" rel="nofollow">http://www.tips-q.com/1064151-pray-away-gay-and-penis-pills</a></p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s a pro-gay article, but the link to the journal&#8217;s website is right there in the article.</p>
<p>Of course, there is also a possibility that it could just be &#8220;the Journal of human sexuality&#8221; (without the word &#8220;electronic&#8221; word in it. Even still, that is a journal dealing in science from a Christian perspective. And of course, Christians are biased against homosexuality and would be inclined to say something like that about it.</p>
<p>Here is their website: <a href="http://www.leaderu.com/jhs/" rel="nofollow">http://www.leaderu.com/jhs/</a></p>
<p>Try again Jakey!<br />
=)</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/06/3308/comment-page-1/#comment-12580</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack Spratt,

You keep espousing all this, and you do not provide viable and reliable evidence to back it up. NARTH doesn&#039;t have any &quot;leading academics and therapists&quot;.

By the way, what is this &quot;peer-reviewed journal&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Spratt,</p>
<p>You keep espousing all this, and you do not provide viable and reliable evidence to back it up. NARTH doesn&#8217;t have any &#8220;leading academics and therapists&#8221;.</p>
<p>By the way, what is this &#8220;peer-reviewed journal&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: jack spratt</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/06/3308/comment-page-1/#comment-12579</link>
		<dc:creator>jack spratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My whining and complaining is focused on the harm that homosexuals are doing to one another given that the human body cannot naturally withstand  the kind of abuse involved in homosexual sex, including in the rare cases where there is faithfulness.  It doesn&#039;t ultimately matter whether it&#039;s a choice or whether it can be changed.  What matters is that people not do things to themselves and to each other that are harmful, physically and emotionally, and that other people not encourage them to do that. The unkindness of some people&#039;s resentment of homosexuals is nothing compared with the adverse effects of encouraging people to harm themselves and shorten their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My whining and complaining is focused on the harm that homosexuals are doing to one another given that the human body cannot naturally withstand  the kind of abuse involved in homosexual sex, including in the rare cases where there is faithfulness.  It doesn&#8217;t ultimately matter whether it&#8217;s a choice or whether it can be changed.  What matters is that people not do things to themselves and to each other that are harmful, physically and emotionally, and that other people not encourage them to do that. The unkindness of some people&#8217;s resentment of homosexuals is nothing compared with the adverse effects of encouraging people to harm themselves and shorten their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/06/3308/comment-page-1/#comment-12578</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack Spratt,

I have known same-sex couples who were together for more than 25 years. I have also tried dating girls, but it did not work for me. I accepted myself as gay, and I am more happier than trying to fake being straight, trying to pretend I am attracted to girls, it was just unnatural for me. I resorted to cutting myself, and I even tried to hang myself over it. Homosexuality is just a part of who someone is, like heterosexuality. By trying to rip something out of you and shoving something in it&#039;s place that don&#039;t belong there, you cause problems, that&#039;s why &quot;ex gay&quot; therapy is so harmful.

By the way &quot;NARTH Scientific Advisory Committee&quot; isn&#039;t going to fool anyone but themselves. There have been numerous studies (much more than 600) and every respected mental health organization in existence (not just the American Psychological Association) which comprises of over 500,000 of the world&#039;s best mental health professionals, say that homosexuality is NOT a mental illness, is not a choice, and is not abnormal for a minority of people. 

Despite how convincing your argument may be (to some people anyway) the ones who pose that argument have their work cut out for them because they are going against so much.

I still find it amazing how &quot;ex gay&quot; activists can say that homosexuals (5% to 10% of the population) convinced the mental health community to consider homosexuality normal when like 60% of the population is against homosexuality. Yet, try as they might, that 60% cannot overturn the decision made over 35 years ago. 

No amount of whining and complaining about how &quot;homosexuality is wrong&quot; &quot;homosexualty is abnormal&quot; for 35 years by 60% of the population can reverse the conclusion that homosexuality is not abnormal. Gee, I wonder why??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Spratt,</p>
<p>I have known same-sex couples who were together for more than 25 years. I have also tried dating girls, but it did not work for me. I accepted myself as gay, and I am more happier than trying to fake being straight, trying to pretend I am attracted to girls, it was just unnatural for me. I resorted to cutting myself, and I even tried to hang myself over it. Homosexuality is just a part of who someone is, like heterosexuality. By trying to rip something out of you and shoving something in it&#8217;s place that don&#8217;t belong there, you cause problems, that&#8217;s why &#8220;ex gay&#8221; therapy is so harmful.</p>
<p>By the way &#8220;NARTH Scientific Advisory Committee&#8221; isn&#8217;t going to fool anyone but themselves. There have been numerous studies (much more than 600) and every respected mental health organization in existence (not just the American Psychological Association) which comprises of over 500,000 of the world&#8217;s best mental health professionals, say that homosexuality is NOT a mental illness, is not a choice, and is not abnormal for a minority of people. </p>
<p>Despite how convincing your argument may be (to some people anyway) the ones who pose that argument have their work cut out for them because they are going against so much.</p>
<p>I still find it amazing how &#8220;ex gay&#8221; activists can say that homosexuals (5% to 10% of the population) convinced the mental health community to consider homosexuality normal when like 60% of the population is against homosexuality. Yet, try as they might, that 60% cannot overturn the decision made over 35 years ago. </p>
<p>No amount of whining and complaining about how &#8220;homosexuality is wrong&#8221; &#8220;homosexualty is abnormal&#8221; for 35 years by 60% of the population can reverse the conclusion that homosexuality is not abnormal. Gee, I wonder why??</p>
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		<title>By: jack spratt</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/06/3308/comment-page-1/#comment-12577</link>
		<dc:creator>jack spratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A new report in the first edition of the peer-reviewed Journal of Human Sexuality has found that sexual orientation is not immutable and that psychological care for individuals with unwanted homosexual attractions is beneficial and poses no significant risk of harm.

The study, What Research Shows: NARTH&#039;s Response to the American Psychological Associations Claims on Homosexuality, examines over 100 years of professional and scientific literature as well as over 600 reports from clinicians, researchers, and former clients principally published in professional and peer-reviewed journals.

This research, assembled over a period of eighteen months by three of the leading academics and therapists in the field and under the direction of the NARTH Scientific Advisory Committee, refutes claims made by some factions of the American Psychological Association and several other professional mental health organizations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new report in the first edition of the peer-reviewed Journal of Human Sexuality has found that sexual orientation is not immutable and that psychological care for individuals with unwanted homosexual attractions is beneficial and poses no significant risk of harm.</p>
<p>The study, What Research Shows: NARTH&#8217;s Response to the American Psychological Associations Claims on Homosexuality, examines over 100 years of professional and scientific literature as well as over 600 reports from clinicians, researchers, and former clients principally published in professional and peer-reviewed journals.</p>
<p>This research, assembled over a period of eighteen months by three of the leading academics and therapists in the field and under the direction of the NARTH Scientific Advisory Committee, refutes claims made by some factions of the American Psychological Association and several other professional mental health organizations.</p>
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		<title>By: jack spratt</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/06/3308/comment-page-1/#comment-12575</link>
		<dc:creator>jack spratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For every gay who commits suicide, there are hundreds who die before their time because of the intrinsically unsafe nature of homosexual relations.  Those who promote such relations are partly responsible for that holocaust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For every gay who commits suicide, there are hundreds who die before their time because of the intrinsically unsafe nature of homosexual relations.  Those who promote such relations are partly responsible for that holocaust.</p>
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