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		<title>By: Preston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How funny these whackos want the so-called and alleged &quot;spirit of homosexuality&quot; to be cast out in the name of Jesus when it&#039;s very clear that Jesus was most likely gay Himself.

Saying that living as a homosexual is a &quot;lifestyle&quot; is like saying that living as an African-American is a &quot;lifestyle&quot;.  Furthermore, gay people are born gay -- created that way by God Himself.  And since God is perfect, doesn&#039;t make mistakes, and is love, then the same obviously can be said about those He creates to be gay.

Someone needs to tell this Christohet Supremacist porker of a preacher that she needs to be freed herself from the demons of Kentucky Fried Chicken and McDonald&#039;s and Wendy&#039;s and Burger King and Dairy Queen and Taco Bell.

For this woman to say that any gay person who&#039;d want to attend her church (I can&#039;t believe there isre ANY gay person who is that much of a masochist) would have to be &quot;delivered&quot; is no less offensive (not to mention preposterous and absurd) to gay people than some other church saying that black people could only attend only if they agreed to be delivered from the evil spirit that is making them black.

These people at this den of demons they call a church (aka the &quot;Manifest and Glory Ministries Church&quot;) are simply ignorant, uneducated simpletons and bigots.  But they are also dangerous as well, and no child or anyone under the age of 18 should EVER be allowed to be near any of these people.  It wasn&#039;t any demon that got this heterosexist preacher lady hooked on crack, or on heroin, or made her leave school far before she should have, or turned her into an enormous tub o&#039; lard.  It was her own weak and flawed character, her own inability to engage in critical thinking, her own lack of willpower, her own dearth of any internal fortitude, her own broken character, her own lack of education, her own stupidity and ignorance, and her own personal character flaws.  Blaming all this on some &quot;demon&quot; is simply a farce and a cop out, and she needs to learn to accept responsibility for her own actions -- both past and present.  Anyone holding themselves out to the community as a pastor should especially have learned by now the importance and necessity of accepting responsibility for their own actions rather than ascribing their mistakes to &quot;demons&quot; (Sarah Palin felt the need to have some preacher from Kenya come to her church and lay hands on her so that she&#039;d be protected from &quot;witches&quot;.  See a pattern here?)  

HOW ON EARTH can this self-righteous, pious, condescending Christohet Supremacist have the audacity to tell ANYONE else what they should do in their own lives when she won&#039;t even accept responsibility for her own past actions (not to mention all those she harmed while on drugs -- and one wonders just how well she&#039;s made amends to all those that she harmed) and instead tries have others believe some cop-out that her chosen behavior was due to some &quot;demon&quot; that caused her to do crack and heroin (is it some demon that causes her to eat like an army too??).  She ADMITS she is a &quot;RECOVERING ADDICT, RECOVERING CRACKHEAD AND A HEROIN ADDICT&quot;, so she&#039;s obviously been to jail/prison before and is a convicted criminal (one can only wonder how long her rap sheet is).

Before placing herself in a position of authority where she&#039;s telling other people how to run their lives, she must accept responsibility for her past and obtain an education.  If she had an education, she&#039;d know that there&#039;s absolutely no such thing as a &quot;homosexual demon&quot; or &quot;demon of homosexuality&quot;.  Furthermore, it&#039;s her own lack of education and the spreading ignorance about gay people that gives license to other uneducated people to go out and commit acts of violence against innocent LGBT people (which is why we must have federal hate crimes legislation passed!).
 
She complains that the publicity from this video has made her out to seem like a murderer.  Well, in a way she is.  It&#039;s these same stupid, ignorant, uneducated beliefs of hers that give other stupid, ignorant, uneducated simpletons the impetus to go out and assault/bash/murder LGBT people.   Telling people they can be &quot;delivered by the power of the Holy Spirit&quot; from being gay is not only evidence of her own ignorance and stupidity, it is no different than telling someone they can be &quot;delivered&quot; from being tall or black or Irish or having blue eyes.  It&#039;s impossible, period.  It is also an insult to God too.  Since God doesn&#039;t make mistakes, criticizing his creations is telling him He made a mistake with 10% of the population.

And since homosexuality is perfectly normal, has always been extant for as long as humans have been walking the earth, and is obsevered in countless animal and insect species,  and since the earth cannot sustain the continual growth of the human population anyway (we are on what&#039;s known as a &quot;J-shaped curve&quot; with earth&#039;s population -- and there&#039;s no one to blame except the heterosexuals), it&#039;s time society start ENCOURAGING people to be gay (not that we can make heterosexuals turn gay any more than we can make gay people turn straight, but an enormous percentage of the population can and does have the ability to be bisexual and to therefore be in monogamous, loving relationships with their own sex).  This would be an especially good idea for smug, pious, corpulent, ignorant, uneducated, fat, narrow-minded Christohet Supremacist preacher-bigots since the world particularly needs less people like these pushing their ignorant views on others.  This preacher in particular also says she&#039;d know someone was  &quot;delivered&quot; (proof they were no longer homosexual) if their &quot;lifestyle changed&quot;.  This may come as a surprise to some, but being gay is not a &quot;lifestyle&quot;.  And what about celibate gays?  If they had the so-called alleged &quot;gay demon&quot; &quot;exorcised&quot; from them, how would she know they had been &quot;delivered&quot; from that &quot;gay demon&quot;???

Whether everything has a spirit or not is debateable.  What isn&#039;t debateable is taking any of God&#039;s beautiful gay children and saying their innate soul or deepest being is in any way &quot;trapped&quot;, or even worse, trapped by alcohol abuse or crack cocaine abuse or heroin abuse or the act of committing adultery.  Preacher, heal THYSELF!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How funny these whackos want the so-called and alleged &#8220;spirit of homosexuality&#8221; to be cast out in the name of Jesus when it&#8217;s very clear that Jesus was most likely gay Himself.</p>
<p>Saying that living as a homosexual is a &#8220;lifestyle&#8221; is like saying that living as an African-American is a &#8220;lifestyle&#8221;.  Furthermore, gay people are born gay &#8212; created that way by God Himself.  And since God is perfect, doesn&#8217;t make mistakes, and is love, then the same obviously can be said about those He creates to be gay.</p>
<p>Someone needs to tell this Christohet Supremacist porker of a preacher that she needs to be freed herself from the demons of Kentucky Fried Chicken and McDonald&#8217;s and Wendy&#8217;s and Burger King and Dairy Queen and Taco Bell.</p>
<p>For this woman to say that any gay person who&#8217;d want to attend her church (I can&#8217;t believe there isre ANY gay person who is that much of a masochist) would have to be &#8220;delivered&#8221; is no less offensive (not to mention preposterous and absurd) to gay people than some other church saying that black people could only attend only if they agreed to be delivered from the evil spirit that is making them black.</p>
<p>These people at this den of demons they call a church (aka the &#8220;Manifest and Glory Ministries Church&#8221;) are simply ignorant, uneducated simpletons and bigots.  But they are also dangerous as well, and no child or anyone under the age of 18 should EVER be allowed to be near any of these people.  It wasn&#8217;t any demon that got this heterosexist preacher lady hooked on crack, or on heroin, or made her leave school far before she should have, or turned her into an enormous tub o&#8217; lard.  It was her own weak and flawed character, her own inability to engage in critical thinking, her own lack of willpower, her own dearth of any internal fortitude, her own broken character, her own lack of education, her own stupidity and ignorance, and her own personal character flaws.  Blaming all this on some &#8220;demon&#8221; is simply a farce and a cop out, and she needs to learn to accept responsibility for her own actions &#8212; both past and present.  Anyone holding themselves out to the community as a pastor should especially have learned by now the importance and necessity of accepting responsibility for their own actions rather than ascribing their mistakes to &#8220;demons&#8221; (Sarah Palin felt the need to have some preacher from Kenya come to her church and lay hands on her so that she&#8217;d be protected from &#8220;witches&#8221;.  See a pattern here?)  </p>
<p>HOW ON EARTH can this self-righteous, pious, condescending Christohet Supremacist have the audacity to tell ANYONE else what they should do in their own lives when she won&#8217;t even accept responsibility for her own past actions (not to mention all those she harmed while on drugs &#8212; and one wonders just how well she&#8217;s made amends to all those that she harmed) and instead tries have others believe some cop-out that her chosen behavior was due to some &#8220;demon&#8221; that caused her to do crack and heroin (is it some demon that causes her to eat like an army too??).  She ADMITS she is a &#8220;RECOVERING ADDICT, RECOVERING CRACKHEAD AND A HEROIN ADDICT&#8221;, so she&#8217;s obviously been to jail/prison before and is a convicted criminal (one can only wonder how long her rap sheet is).</p>
<p>Before placing herself in a position of authority where she&#8217;s telling other people how to run their lives, she must accept responsibility for her past and obtain an education.  If she had an education, she&#8217;d know that there&#8217;s absolutely no such thing as a &#8220;homosexual demon&#8221; or &#8220;demon of homosexuality&#8221;.  Furthermore, it&#8217;s her own lack of education and the spreading ignorance about gay people that gives license to other uneducated people to go out and commit acts of violence against innocent LGBT people (which is why we must have federal hate crimes legislation passed!).</p>
<p>She complains that the publicity from this video has made her out to seem like a murderer.  Well, in a way she is.  It&#8217;s these same stupid, ignorant, uneducated beliefs of hers that give other stupid, ignorant, uneducated simpletons the impetus to go out and assault/bash/murder LGBT people.   Telling people they can be &#8220;delivered by the power of the Holy Spirit&#8221; from being gay is not only evidence of her own ignorance and stupidity, it is no different than telling someone they can be &#8220;delivered&#8221; from being tall or black or Irish or having blue eyes.  It&#8217;s impossible, period.  It is also an insult to God too.  Since God doesn&#8217;t make mistakes, criticizing his creations is telling him He made a mistake with 10% of the population.</p>
<p>And since homosexuality is perfectly normal, has always been extant for as long as humans have been walking the earth, and is obsevered in countless animal and insect species,  and since the earth cannot sustain the continual growth of the human population anyway (we are on what&#8217;s known as a &#8220;J-shaped curve&#8221; with earth&#8217;s population &#8212; and there&#8217;s no one to blame except the heterosexuals), it&#8217;s time society start ENCOURAGING people to be gay (not that we can make heterosexuals turn gay any more than we can make gay people turn straight, but an enormous percentage of the population can and does have the ability to be bisexual and to therefore be in monogamous, loving relationships with their own sex).  This would be an especially good idea for smug, pious, corpulent, ignorant, uneducated, fat, narrow-minded Christohet Supremacist preacher-bigots since the world particularly needs less people like these pushing their ignorant views on others.  This preacher in particular also says she&#8217;d know someone was  &#8220;delivered&#8221; (proof they were no longer homosexual) if their &#8220;lifestyle changed&#8221;.  This may come as a surprise to some, but being gay is not a &#8220;lifestyle&#8221;.  And what about celibate gays?  If they had the so-called alleged &#8220;gay demon&#8221; &#8220;exorcised&#8221; from them, how would she know they had been &#8220;delivered&#8221; from that &#8220;gay demon&#8221;???</p>
<p>Whether everything has a spirit or not is debateable.  What isn&#8217;t debateable is taking any of God&#8217;s beautiful gay children and saying their innate soul or deepest being is in any way &#8220;trapped&#8221;, or even worse, trapped by alcohol abuse or crack cocaine abuse or heroin abuse or the act of committing adultery.  Preacher, heal THYSELF!</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Wins Out - Exodus&#8217; War against Freedom Comes to Illinois</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/06/3337/comment-page-1/#comment-12688</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Wins Out - Exodus&#8217; War against Freedom Comes to Illinois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] law. And Exodus refused to publicly oppose attempts by a church in Connecticut to perform abusive exorcisms against a gay 16-year-old [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] law. And Exodus refused to publicly oppose attempts by a church in Connecticut to perform abusive exorcisms against a gay 16-year-old [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Christina Engela</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/06/3337/comment-page-1/#comment-12650</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina Engela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should try that scam on me - I could use the exorcise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should try that scam on me &#8211; I could use the exorcise.</p>
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		<title>By: a. mcewen</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/06/3337/comment-page-1/#comment-12618</link>
		<dc:creator>a. mcewen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone in college wanted to do that to me. I told him if you lay hands on me, I get to lay hands on you and I get to choose where I put my hands. Naturally he decided not to lay hands on me. I am not kidding when I say this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone in college wanted to do that to me. I told him if you lay hands on me, I get to lay hands on you and I get to choose where I put my hands. Naturally he decided not to lay hands on me. I am not kidding when I say this.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/06/3337/comment-page-1/#comment-12617</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken R said, &quot;They only have 25 members. So what does that tell you?&quot;

My answer is &quot;not much.&quot; A group of 25 or 25 million can be delusional. Actually, it is easier for individuals to maintain their delusions when they share them with millions of others, and especially so when those delusions have persisted for thousands of years. That&#039;s why we have organized religions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken R said, &#8220;They only have 25 members. So what does that tell you?&#8221;</p>
<p>My answer is &#8220;not much.&#8221; A group of 25 or 25 million can be delusional. Actually, it is easier for individuals to maintain their delusions when they share them with millions of others, and especially so when those delusions have persisted for thousands of years. That&#8217;s why we have organized religions.</p>
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		<title>By: adamblast</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/06/3337/comment-page-1/#comment-12616</link>
		<dc:creator>adamblast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of my own abuse by a Bible Study group at about the same age. I ended up trying to blind myself to avoid the temptation of gay lust, the only slim hope for heaven I could come up with at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of my own abuse by a Bible Study group at about the same age. I ended up trying to blind myself to avoid the temptation of gay lust, the only slim hope for heaven I could come up with at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/06/3337/comment-page-1/#comment-12610</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which church will cast out the homophobia demon?  People are not born homophobic, they choose to be homophobic.  Perhaps an exorcism will propel the evil homophobic spirit residing in their hearts back to hell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which church will cast out the homophobia demon?  People are not born homophobic, they choose to be homophobic.  Perhaps an exorcism will propel the evil homophobic spirit residing in their hearts back to hell?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken R</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/06/3337/comment-page-1/#comment-12602</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to say that I do believe in the work of the Holy Spirit. However, there is no such thing as a &quot;homosexual spirit&quot;. God only knows how many people will go to her to have their &quot;homosexual demons&quot; so-called cast out. Truly Sad.

They only have 25 members. So what does that tell you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to say that I do believe in the work of the Holy Spirit. However, there is no such thing as a &#8220;homosexual spirit&#8221;. God only knows how many people will go to her to have their &#8220;homosexual demons&#8221; so-called cast out. Truly Sad.</p>
<p>They only have 25 members. So what does that tell you?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken R</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/06/3337/comment-page-1/#comment-12600</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone needs to rip that fast food spirit from that so called Rev. Gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins.

And I wonder if they believe in a divorce spirit or excess wealth spirit? Those demons need to be ripped from people too. Its everywhere!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone needs to rip that fast food spirit from that so called Rev. Gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins.</p>
<p>And I wonder if they believe in a divorce spirit or excess wealth spirit? Those demons need to be ripped from people too. Its everywhere!</p>
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