Utter Rubish. These laws have worked out exactly as planned and there has been no problem with them – you lie.

Jack said “All of these violent crimes should and must be prosecuted against victims of all races, ethnic groups, religions, sexual orientation.”.

They already are and hate crimes laws in no way interfere with this. Two crimes are committed when a hate crime occurs, the one against the individual and the one which terrorizes the community to which the individual belongs. Hate crimes laws punish both crimes as they should.

Jack said “When you demand special rights, special laws for your group, you are denying them to the rest of us.”.

That’s a bold faced lie. No one is demanding special rights, the hate crimes law covers sexual orientation, straight people are protected by it just as much as gays are. If someone commits a hate crime against you as a straight person they would be convicted just as you would be if you committed a hate crime against a gay person. Neither you nor anyone else is denied their rights by hate crimes laws.

I’m also disappointed to see you dismissing the First Amendment, which prevents the United States from suppressing hate speech.

I’m disappointed to see you mischaracterize the consequences of hate-crime and hate-speech laws in other countries; you make our closest, free-est allies sound like Stalinist work camps.

And finally, I’m disappointed to see you airing strawman arguments about what LGBT people think, say, and do.

If you have something to say which is reality-based, by all means please do so.

I live in Chicago – we led all cities in the nation last year with over 650 murders. But few if any of these murders qualified as “hate crimes” – which can only be done by evil White, heterosexual Gentile/Christians.

Gee I guess since Chicago large numbers of murders weren’t “hate crimes” they must have been “love crimes”.

People, please get out of this cursed politically correct, cultural marxist view that America is the land of oppression. Take advantage of the freedoms and liberties available in American and the West, freedoms that are not there for people – definitely not for gays in most parts of the Third World.

Think Saudi Arabia allows gay and lesbian pride parades? Please do not attack our Constitutional Rights – the 1st Amendment, 4th Amendment or 14th Amendment.

Consider the great political program of gay Dutch leader Pym Fortuyn – a national hero, not one looking to end Western liberties in Holland.

Murder is murder
Assault is assault
rape is rape

All of these violent crimes should and must be prosecuted against victims of all races, ethnic groups, religions, sexual orientation.

When you demand special rights, special laws for your group, you are denying them to the rest of us.

Yes, I can guarantee it, because I have yet to meet one person in twenty years of activism who wants pastors imprisoned for speech – no matter how backward or bigoted the sermon may be. What you are spewing is complete and other BS – that comes from a combination of paranoia and an over-active imagination.

Brad, this point is not even debatable. One has to be utterly stupid to say otherwise. As I clearly pointed out, hate crime laws are already enacted federally and in the vast majority of states. The gloom and doom scenario you created (or parroted from hate sites) has not occurred. Period.

Again, this is not my opinion. This is not hypothetical. I am basing my statement on what has actually gone on in places where hate crimes have already been enacted – for decades.

Brad, please think for yourself and stop regurgitating lies that make you appear to be an ignoramus. You do your “cause” more ham than good when you make people disrespect you because you do not adhere to reality.

The law also currently allows people of different religions or divorced couples to marry and yet no priest has been forced to marry a divorced couple or an inter-faith couple. The idea that they will be prosecuted for refusing to marry gays and lesbians is an evil lie and you are to be held in the utmost contempt for attempting to deny the children of gay parents the benefits of legally protected parents based on something that is guarenteed not to happen.

http://www.bilerico.com/2009/10/a_lethal_love_letter_from_the_catholic_bishops_of.php

Much like what Wayne says at the end, we would be sheep – or cattle – for the slaughter, were we to believe everything we read from these “camps.”

Thanks, Wayne, for exposing these ridiculously hateful, and hate-filled, groups!!!