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By: Evan

Evan — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:27:09 +0000

The Anne Lamott quote comes to mind, something to the effect of “You know you’ve made God in your own image when he hates all the same people you do.”

By: Wayne Besen

Wayne Besen — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:09:30 +0000

Evan, funny how Exodus created a sexually obsessed version of Jesus completely devoid of love. Quite a feat, I’d say, on their part.

I think Exodus asks, “What would Jesus do” and they do the opposite.

By: Evan

Evan — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:51:50 +0000

That, Wayne, is because the work of Exodus has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus.

Simple as that. :)

By: Wayne Besen

Wayne Besen — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:49:57 +0000

AdrianT:

The power of the message, “Change is Possible” is quite adaptable. People will overlook specific religious differences and make adaptations to fit such ideas into their own belief systems. That is why you have Evergreen, for Mormons and Jews Offering New Alternatives to Homosexuality (JONAH) for religious Jews. Although, JONAH barely makes the effort and has members read fundamentalist Christian texts.

People of different faiths read Exodus literature, much as Exodus reads the Bible. Like a buffet, they pick and choose the parts they like and discard the rest.

One reason religious groups like Exodus adopted the quack therapies of Elizabeth Moberly, Charles Socarides, Irving Bieber, Richard Cohen and NARTH’s Joe Nicolosi – is so they would have a wider appeal than just their religious base.

While Exodus is fundamentalist Christian, their messages are quite flexible in terms of other faiths, or those who are non-religious.

By: William

William — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:35:15 +0000

It’s interesting that you should bring up that point, adrianT. Some time back, I found on the Internet the testimony of a former Christian who claimed that his homosexuality had been “cured” by his conversion to Islam. I wonder what the Exodus brigade would make of that.

Similarly there have been claims of homosexuality being cured by Christian Science, Scientology, and God knows what else. To borrow the words of Thomas Paine:

“…for my own part, I disbelieve them all.”

By: adrianT

adrianT — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:02:53 +0000

I’m curious: Exodus promises to give its clients the power to change through ‘Jesus Christ’. I don’t understand how this would work with Muslims, who regard ‘Isa’ as a mere prophet, and for whom St Paul’s writings are irrelevant.

By: Evan

Evan — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:08:09 +0000

The simplest parallel is with the fomenting of violence by right-wing hate talkers. For example, Bill O’Reilly spent several years reporting on “Tiller the Killer,” twisting facts and whipping up the “pro-life” base against the legal, necessary work done by George Tiller.

Was O’Reilly directly responsible for Tiller’s murder? No. Did he whip up the fervor and help set the stage for an unhinged man named Scott Roeder to gun him down in church? He sure helped.