Comments on: Popular Gay Website Says It’s Okay For Fundamentalists To Discriminate Against Gays (UPDATED) http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/12/5442/ Fighting antigay lies and the ex-gay myth Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:34:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Evan Hurst http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/12/5442/comment-page-1/#comment-15212 Evan Hurst Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:55:28 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=5442#comment-15212 Exactly, David. Exactly, David.

]]> By: David Farrell http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/12/5442/comment-page-1/#comment-15210 David Farrell Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:54:28 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=5442#comment-15210 You can file suit against anyone for any reason! The fact that a suit was brought against a bible publisher means nothing, the fact that a judge refused to hear the case because it has no merit means a lot! Furthermore there is a huge difference between public accommodations and a minister rejecting on moral or biblical basis. You can file suit against anyone for any reason! The fact that a suit was brought against a bible publisher means nothing, the fact that a judge refused to hear the case because it has no merit means a lot! Furthermore there is a huge difference between public accommodations and a minister rejecting on moral or biblical basis.

]]> By: Evan Hurst http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/12/5442/comment-page-1/#comment-15209 Evan Hurst Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:52:44 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=5442#comment-15209 Easy. Clergy are already protected by nondiscrimination laws within the walls and regular practice of their faith. The difference is that that priest is refusing a religious rite to a couple who want to participate in it. The photographers are refusing a public service to someone simply because their religion tells them not to like it. This is clearly established law. And gay people aren't fighting for the right to participate in the religious rite of marriage anyway -- we already HAVE that right, from thousands upon thousands of clergy and churches who have no problem performing our marriages! It's always so funny to me...what kind of mangled thinking would lead you to believe that a self-respecting gay couple would want to get married at an ugly Southern Baptist church in the suburbs? Guh-ross. And the Bible lawsuit was stupid, and most gay people thought so. Do you remember whether the Bible lawsuit guy won or lost? Because that's an important fact. :) Easy.

Clergy are already protected by nondiscrimination laws within the walls and regular practice of their faith. The difference is that that priest is refusing a religious rite to a couple who want to participate in it. The photographers are refusing a public service to someone simply because their religion tells them not to like it.

This is clearly established law. And gay people aren’t fighting for the right to participate in the religious rite of marriage anyway — we already HAVE that right, from thousands upon thousands of clergy and churches who have no problem performing our marriages! It’s always so funny to me…what kind of mangled thinking would lead you to believe that a self-respecting gay couple would want to get married at an ugly Southern Baptist church in the suburbs? Guh-ross.

And the Bible lawsuit was stupid, and most gay people thought so. Do you remember whether the Bible lawsuit guy won or lost? Because that’s an important fact.

:)

]]> By: brad anderson http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/12/5442/comment-page-1/#comment-15206 brad anderson Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:32:13 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=5442#comment-15206 so tell me evan, what then to stop a judge from ruling against a minister or priest who has refused on moral grounds to marry a gay couple? isn't the priest or minister discriminating against the gay couple? The truth is that rulings like the one in NM will lead to such a scenario. if doubt that may i point out that a gay man has already sued bible publishers on discrimination and hate crime bases so tell me evan, what then to stop a judge from
ruling against a minister or priest who has
refused on moral grounds to marry a gay couple?
isn’t the priest or minister discriminating
against the gay couple? The truth is that rulings
like the one in NM will lead to such a scenario.
if doubt that may i point out that a gay man
has already sued bible publishers on discrimination
and hate crime bases

]]> By: Evan Hurst http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/12/5442/comment-page-1/#comment-15203 Evan Hurst Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:27:40 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=5442#comment-15203 Yep. It's so simple. The writer over there seems to have no idea what "public accomodation" means, or that these laws are pretty explicit. Thankfully, the commenters there are eviscerating him. Yep. It’s so simple. The writer over there seems to have no idea what “public accomodation” means, or that these laws are pretty explicit.

Thankfully, the commenters there are eviscerating him.

]]> By: Michael http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/12/5442/comment-page-1/#comment-15199 Michael Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:50:03 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=5442#comment-15199 What if the Christian Fundamentalist couple decided to not photograph an Islamic couple's wedding or a Hindu couple's wedding (since they have not accepted Christ) or a Catholic couple's wedding (since they worship false idols)? (These being their "religious" reasons to discriminate, not mine.) There would be no question that such conduct would be against the law. Thus, the only reason for this lawsuit is to rationalize, promote and support the sin of homophobia and it should be tossed out. What if the Christian Fundamentalist couple decided to not photograph an Islamic couple’s wedding or a Hindu couple’s wedding (since they have not accepted Christ) or a Catholic couple’s wedding (since they worship false idols)? (These being their “religious” reasons to discriminate, not mine.) There would be no question that such conduct would be against the law. Thus, the only reason for this lawsuit is to rationalize, promote and support the sin of homophobia and it should be tossed out.

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