Comments on: Man Testifies at Prop 8 Trial And Says That ‘Ex-Gay’ Therapy Failed http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/01/6245/ Fighting antigay lies and the ex-gay myth Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:34:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mykelb http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/01/6245/comment-page-1/#comment-16558 Mykelb Thu, 21 Jan 2010 02:47:11 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=6245#comment-16558 The Prop 8 people opened the door to this man's testimony as their campaing literature talked about conversion therapy and that sexuality was a mutable characteristic. So, their objection to him being in court as irrelevant is a blatant attempt to shut down discussion and testimony to the opposite fact. The Prop 8 people opened the door to this man’s testimony as their campaing literature talked about conversion therapy and that sexuality was a mutable characteristic. So, their objection to him being in court as irrelevant is a blatant attempt to shut down discussion and testimony to the opposite fact.

]]> By: Merlyn http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/01/6245/comment-page-1/#comment-16556 Merlyn Thu, 21 Jan 2010 01:35:03 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=6245#comment-16556 Good point, Priya Lynn. Religion IS a chosen behaviour. If it is protected, then sexual orientation, which is not chosen, should also be protected. I'm glad this man is being allowed to testify. Good point, Priya Lynn. Religion IS a chosen behaviour. If it is protected, then sexual orientation, which is not chosen, should also be protected. I’m glad this man is being allowed to testify.

]]> By: Evan Hurst http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/01/6245/comment-page-1/#comment-16549 Evan Hurst Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:29:38 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=6245#comment-16549 Yep. Yep.

]]> By: Priya Lynn http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/01/6245/comment-page-1/#comment-16547 Priya Lynn Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:38:44 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=6245#comment-16547 I'm not so sure about that Thomas. Hasn't the U.S. supreme court ruled that discrimination against people because of their religion, a chosen behavior, is illegal? I’m not so sure about that Thomas. Hasn’t the U.S. supreme court ruled that discrimination against people because of their religion, a chosen behavior, is illegal?

]]> By: Thomas Kraemer http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/01/6245/comment-page-1/#comment-16545 Thomas Kraemer Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:34:07 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=6245#comment-16545 I don't believe the anti-gay attorney when he says ex-gay testimony is "irrelevant to the legal issues in the case." I am sure he wants the testimony suppressed because he knows that the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled discrimination with a rational reason is legal in many cases where somebody chooses the behavior, but for discrimination to be legal based on something a person can't change, such as their race or the color of their skin, a much better reason is required. So far, the U.S. Supreme Court has never recognized sexual orientation as being something a person can't change. Until they do so, sexual orientation will not have the same legal protection against discrimination as race has had for decades. I don’t believe the anti-gay attorney when he says ex-gay testimony is “irrelevant to the legal issues in the case.” I am sure he wants the testimony suppressed because he knows that the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled discrimination with a rational reason is legal in many cases where somebody chooses the behavior, but for discrimination to be legal based on something a person can’t change, such as their race or the color of their skin, a much better reason is required.

So far, the U.S. Supreme Court has never recognized sexual orientation as being something a person can’t change. Until they do so, sexual orientation will not have the same legal protection against discrimination as race has had for decades.

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