Comments on: No Luck For The Irish As ‘Ex-Gays’ Target the Island http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/01/6298/ Fighting antigay lies and the ex-gay myth Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:56:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Richard Rush http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/01/6298/comment-page-1/#comment-39736 Richard Rush Tue, 29 Mar 2011 18:01:50 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=6298#comment-39736 Because we've often heard Christians talk about "God's plan" for their lives, I have to assume that cleft palates (and many other conditions) are part of God's plan for some people's lives. So, how does God choose His plan for each person? I guess God's mysterious ways are just part of what makes Him so awesome - and faithful, too. Because we’ve often heard Christians talk about “God’s plan” for their lives, I have to assume that cleft palates (and many other conditions) are part of God’s plan for some people’s lives. So, how does God choose His plan for each person? I guess God’s mysterious ways are just part of what makes Him so awesome – and faithful, too.

]]> By: Priya Lynn http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/01/6298/comment-page-1/#comment-39734 Priya Lynn Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:52:16 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=6298#comment-39734 Edward, from now one when someone responds to questions like that with "the lord moves in mysterious ways" I'll be saying "you mean the lord moves in unjustifiable ways that could only be excused by his non-existence. Edward, from now one when someone responds to questions like that with “the lord moves in mysterious ways” I’ll be saying “you mean the lord moves in unjustifiable ways that could only be excused by his non-existence.

]]> By: Edward Harper http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/01/6298/comment-page-1/#comment-39733 Edward Harper Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:46:30 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=6298#comment-39733 It is pointless to ask Terry why YHWH doesn't heal anyone for real because we already know the trite answer which answers nothing: the lord works in mysterious ways. It would be better if we focused on the fact that this person who claims he stopped "destroying the lives of others" compared Gays and Lesbians, who hurt nobody by being what they are, to a profession whose sole purpose is hurting people for money. I have never seen any evidence that Christianity has ever made anyone a better human being. I think Terry simply traded one immoral lifestyle for another. It is pointless to ask Terry why YHWH doesn’t heal anyone for real because we already know the trite answer which answers nothing: the lord works in mysterious ways. It would be better if we focused on the fact that this person who claims he stopped “destroying the lives of others” compared Gays and Lesbians, who hurt nobody by being what they are, to a profession whose sole purpose is hurting people for money.

I have never seen any evidence that Christianity has ever made anyone a better human being. I think Terry simply traded one immoral lifestyle for another.

]]> By: Priya Lynn http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/01/6298/comment-page-1/#comment-39731 Priya Lynn Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:33:49 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=6298#comment-39731 Terry, why doesn't god heal amputees? Terry, why doesn’t god heal amputees?

]]> By: Ben in Oakland http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/01/6298/comment-page-1/#comment-39729 Ben in Oakland Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:28:12 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=6298#comment-39729 but he's way too AWESOME to have to descend to our level and provide a little proof of his desires and intentions. but he’s way too AWESOME to have to descend to our level and provide a little proof of his desires and intentions.

]]> By: Paul Douglas http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/01/6298/comment-page-1/#comment-39728 Paul Douglas Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:19:35 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=6298#comment-39728 Terry, According to you: "the power of Christ to restore a person to the sexuality that God had intended for him/her", " is there for the sincere of heart and prayer". Tell you what Terry. When I see the power of Christ restore a child with a cleft palate to the person God intended he or she to be (in other words completely healed without surgical intervention), then I will believe your mumbo jumbo about prayer changing orientations. Start providing me with documented examples please. After all, your god is such an awesome god.... Terry,
According to you: “the power of Christ to restore a person to the sexuality that God had intended for him/her”, ” is there for the sincere of heart and prayer”. Tell you what Terry. When I see the power of Christ restore a child with a cleft palate to the person God intended he or she to be (in other words completely healed without surgical intervention), then I will believe your mumbo jumbo about prayer changing orientations. Start providing me with documented examples please. After all, your god is such an awesome god….

]]> By: Ben in Oakland http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/01/6298/comment-page-1/#comment-39725 Ben in Oakland Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:18:02 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=6298#comment-39725 Terry Lovell and Priya-- I'd be satisfied if the Luv 'O Jesus could change just ONE person-- Alan chambers. But somehow, no matter how much Alan Believes, and makes a nice living doing so, he's still a wanna-be-straight-but-ain't. I gotta new word; Queersling! Until then, Mr. Lovell, your Amazing Grace soliliquy (Yes! Even a Wretch Like Me!!!)notwithstanding, you're another mealy mouthed preacherman speaking grandly on subjects that you know nothing about. Terry Lovell and Priya–

I’d be satisfied if the Luv ‘O Jesus could change just ONE person– Alan chambers. But somehow, no matter how much Alan Believes, and makes a nice living doing so, he’s still a wanna-be-straight-but-ain’t.

I gotta new word; Queersling!

Until then, Mr. Lovell, your Amazing Grace soliliquy (Yes! Even a Wretch Like Me!!!)notwithstanding, you’re another mealy mouthed preacherman speaking grandly on subjects that you know nothing about.

]]> By: Priya Lynn http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/01/6298/comment-page-1/#comment-39724 Priya Lynn Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:02:50 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=6298#comment-39724 Terry, if your god can "restore" a person to the sexuality your god intended, why has he never done so? Maybe its because he doesn't exist. Or, if your god does exist then being omnipotent and omniscient then he knew gay people would be that way when he created them, so they are exactly as he wanted them to be and that's why he has never changed anyone's sexuality. Terry, if your god can “restore” a person to the sexuality your god intended, why has he never done so? Maybe its because he doesn’t exist.

Or, if your god does exist then being omnipotent and omniscient then he knew gay people would be that way when he created them, so they are exactly as he wanted them to be and that’s why he has never changed anyone’s sexuality.

]]> By: Terry Lovell http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/01/6298/comment-page-1/#comment-39723 Terry Lovell Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:57:18 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/?p=6298#comment-39723 As a former tabloid hack who spent much of his life destroying the lives of others until I decided to follow Jesus Christ rather than Robert Maxwell, Mr Besen and his colleagues should not underestimate the power of Christ to restore a person to the sexuality that God had intended for him/her. If He can turn around the life of a Grub Street hack of little, if any, moral scruple, a similar work in the life of a homosexual is there for the sincere of heart and prayer. Incidentally, it is interesting to note that the rabid style of Mr Besen's sweeping condemnations, and ill-based criticisms, are not dissimilar to those once employed by the homosexual-bashing tabloids, and which doubtless he would justifiably condemn. Shalom Terry Lovell As a former tabloid hack who spent much of his life destroying the lives of others until I decided to follow Jesus Christ rather than Robert Maxwell, Mr Besen and his colleagues should not underestimate the power of Christ to restore a person to the sexuality that God had intended for him/her.

If He can turn around the life of a Grub Street hack of little, if any, moral scruple, a similar work in the life of a homosexual is there for the sincere of heart and prayer.

Incidentally, it is interesting to note that the rabid style of Mr Besen’s sweeping condemnations, and ill-based criticisms, are not dissimilar to those once employed by the homosexual-bashing tabloids, and which doubtless he would justifiably condemn.

Shalom

Terry Lovell

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