I am not a gay conservative…to say the least. And I’ve questioned in the past the wisdom of GOProud, the gay conservative group, participating at CPAC along with groups that want to legislate away their dignity. I still question that wisdom. They’ve been sending out reports from CPAC along the lines of “Nobody has beat us up yet, so that means conservatives aren’t bigots after all!” They’re also stupidly suggesting that because Dick Cheney got a standing ovation, that the wingnuts are somehow supportive of gays because Dick Cheney supports gays.
It’s pathetic. Newsflash: Wingnuts like Dick Cheney because Dick Cheney is a torture-mongering ghoul, and wingnuts are weak people, so they feel strengthened by the idea of torturing people, as long as they don’t have to personally exhibit any strength or courage of their own.
Anyway. I don’t care how nice people are to the gay CPAC-ers; what matters is what policies they support. Lots of people are nice to people they hate, especially Southerners, who I would imagine are overrepresented at Winguttapalooza. It’s so ingrained in our culture that we have code phrases that express disdain while always being able to claim the mantle of gentility. (”Bless her heart.”) So personally, the fact that the gay conservatives haven’t been shot at yet at CPAC isn’t impressive.
Also, they’re dealing with the fact that the GOP line on their dignity and existence is that they shouldn’t have any. Consider this quote from Chris Plante, who’s running the National Organization for Marriage (nom nom nom) booth just a few feet away:
“Gays and lesbians have the right to live as they choose, but they don’t have the right to redefine marriage for the rest of us,” Plante said.
Uh huh, right. And believe me, NOM is more welcome there than GOProud is. Again, I don’t care now nice and polite CPAC-ers are to the gays in their midst. The fact that gay conservatives are impressed and excited to be included without having to wear pink triangles is pathetic and reveals the self-loathing and the deeply ingrained beliefs in their own inferiority that we’ve always seen in them.
Meanwhile, an insane press conference happened, featuring Elaine Donnelly, Queen of the 101st Chairborne Brigade, and Tom Minnery of Focus on the Family (who apparently can’t pronounce the word “debacle”), who projected their pathetic Fear of the Gay onto our brave troops as they came out in opposing DADT repeal. Also speaking were know-nothing Tony Perkins and David Keene, who organized the entire conference. Oh, also, there was an old retired admiral who probably had to be helped onto the stage, testifying about his 1930’s version of reality. Watch it if you want, but you’ll lose a few brain cells.
All of that being said, though, this video of Jimmy LaSalvia, the King of the Gay Wingnuts, is pretty funny:
ZING! The boys at the NOM booth are total pansies! On that, we agree.
Anyway, so there you go. Jimmy LaSalvia made a funny and nobody’s been gay-bashed yet at CPAC. Glad to see, again, that they’re persevering in their quest to win the gay rights battles of the 1970’s.
UPDATE: Okay, so all of that being said, this video is also funny. Ryan Sorba, a hysterical and likely closeted anti-gay activist, decided to take to the stage and condemn CPAC for inviting GOProud to the event, and he was received poorly by some in the room. What I notice is that at the beginning, some were booing him, and some were cheering him, but as his childish tantrum grew more hysterical, the boos got louder. Mike Madden at Salon’s War Room opened his report on this by saying, “Turns out CPAC isn’t quite the place for insane jeremiads against homosexuality.” I would suggest, rather, a more balanced reaction, because if you click on the link above to watch the aforementioned press conference, you’ll see that there is indeed a place for insane jeremiads against homosexuality at CPAC. It seems to me that what’s become socially unacceptable, even in CPAC, is the kind of frothing, unhinged anti-gay ranting that’s the hallmark of Ryan Sorba’s “career.” I guarantee you that, for a lot of people in that room, their issue is not the content of Sorba’s tirade, but rather the unfiltered nature of it, because they know that their bigotry is not acceptable in intelligent society. So NOM and Elaine Donnelly and Tom Minnery are fine with them. The rhetorical equivalent of playing with your dingleberries on stage, as exhibited by Ryan Sorba, is not.
Pretty funny, though.
If you missed the event he’s referencing, where the students at Smith College exposed Sorba for the embarrassment he is, click the clicky and laugh.
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It sounds like LaSalvia is smoking the salvia dragon
http://www.salviadragon.com/
This is that psychedelic drug that makes you see angry clowns who tug at your sleeve….and also makes you a GOProud leader.
Comment by Wayne Besen — February 19, 2010 @ 5:30 pm
Evan Hurst … If I were to substitute nigger for the word gay .. I suspect you would feel right at home..
there are those of us true conservatives.. who would like you and your kind to stop hating people who are different.
Next year you will be discriminating against some other group..
It is interesting that, my mother warned me about people like you , her experience was based on having to endure 6 years of he neighbours being rounded up and shot just because they were Jewish..
please do us all a favour and drop dead !!!
Comment by Peter — February 19, 2010 @ 10:44 pm
These GOProuders (and other gay conservatives) seem to suffer from some version of the Stockholm Syndrome; they’ve sided with their oppressors and yes their captors in order to maintain the illusion that they have a morsel of safety with, and respect from, the wingnuts.
Reading this made me think of the small handfull of Jews who, in order to save their own hides (temporarily of course), collaberated with the nazis by informing on other Jews.
Comment by Gary (NJ) — February 20, 2010 @ 9:36 am
Well, and the trouble I have with it is this:
The rest of the conservative platform is preposterous, but so many wingnuts buy into it because they don’t know any better. They THINK they live in a world where massive tax cuts lower the deficit, despite the fact that Macroeconomics textbooks are readily available. They THINK they live in a world where climate is the same thing as weather and snowstorms disprove global warming, even though they’re theoretically just as able to learn about science as anyone else. They THINK they live in a world where torture is an effective form of interrogation, even though “24″ is just a teevee show.
And for many wingnuts, the reason they continue believing these things is that they never have any reason, any impetus to check out whether their ideology is crap or not. So what really gets under my skin is that gay conservatives DO have that impetus! Because they have to go through the process of coming out, which to my mind is a grand time to start asking questions: “If everything my religious family taught me about sexuality is bullshit, is it possible that the Laffer Curve is ALSO completely made up?” But they don’t! And this information is easily attained!
But, I suppose you have to be a truly inquisitive person to do that.
Comment by Evan Hurst — February 20, 2010 @ 10:21 am
Gary, here’s a good example of the Stockholm Syndrome you’re talking about. A report from a gay conservative at CPAC (no linky for the stinky):
“Looks like we have some work to do with Rick Santorum on the issue of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. However, I know Santorum personally and have worked with him for many years (in my other job) and I know he is a good man. He is not homophobic but he does have concerns about using the military being used for social experiments and subject to political correctness. I think he’ wrong. But that DOES NOT make him homophobic.”
Uh. “Man-on-dog sex” Santorum is not homophobic? How self-loathing do you have to be to try to curry favor with Rick Santorum?
Comment by Evan Hurst — February 20, 2010 @ 10:50 am
About Sorba, I also noticed how he was getting booed before going into his tantrum. My guess is that he wasn’t very popular to begin with.
Comment by a. mcewen — February 20, 2010 @ 12:41 pm
I must be in a nitpicky mood today. I don’t think people like Rick Santorum are homophobic; they are intentionally ignorant and deceitful.
My point being, much of today’s bigotry is being driven not by fear of gay people, but by malice, pride, and deep insecurity (fear) about one’s own filtering of reality through a lens of ridiculous and untenable ideology.
Politicians like Santorum and Alan Chambers choose to capitalize upon ignorance, malice, and insecurity for personal gain — and to knowingly damage society — because they lack the integrity and strength of values that are required to resist the temptations of power and material comfort. Of course, these vices are precisely what they project onto their targets.
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I’m thrilled to death that Ryan exposed conservatives for what they are: racist, homophobic pin heads who are obsessed and threatened by anyone not like them.
Society has evolved past you. And not a moment too soon.
Comment by RobH — February 22, 2010 @ 4:35 pm
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“Well, and the trouble I have with it is this:
The rest of the [liberal] platform is preposterous, but so many [democraps] buy into it because they don’t know any better. They THINK they live in a world where massive tax [hikes] lower the deficit, despite the fact that Macroeconomics textbooks are readily available. They THINK they live in a world where climate is the same thing as weather and snowstorms [prove] global warming, even though they’re theoretically just as able to learn about science as anyone else. They THINK they live in a world where [gentle persuasion] is an effective form of interrogation, even though “[MSNBC]‚Ä? is just a teevee show.
And for many [democraps], the reason they continue believing these things is that they never have any reason, any impetus to check out whether their ideology is crap or not. So what really gets under my skin is that gay [liberals] DO have that impetus! Because they have to go through the process of coming out, which to my mind is a grand time to start asking questions: “If everything my religious family taught me about sexuality is bullshit, is it possible that [Keynesian economics] is ALSO completely made up?” But they don’t! And this information is easily attained!
But, I suppose you have to be a truly inquisitive person to do that.”
I couldn’t agree more, my friend.
Comment by Mark_K — February 23, 2010 @ 7:58 pm
OMG MARK YOU ARE SO CREATIVE WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO DO THAT OMG OMG OMG.
Comment by Evan Hurst — February 23, 2010 @ 11:04 pm
Mark, a hint: for things to be funny, they need to be grounded in reality, and written by people with an IQ of more than…well, preferably in the triple digits. Otherwise, we just pity you.
And yes, that was meant to be condescending.
Comment by Evan Hurst — February 23, 2010 @ 11:05 pm
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