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	<title>Comments on: Rick Santorum Says Top Military Brass Have Been &#8220;Indoctrinated&#8221; In Support of Gays</title>
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	<description>Fighting antigay lies and the ex-gay myth</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan Sorba, Up Close and Unhinged &#171; Queer Hatred</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/02/7135/comment-page-1/#comment-17969</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Sorba, Up Close and Unhinged &#171; Queer Hatred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rick Santorum Says Top Military Brass Have Been &quot;Indoctrinated&quot; In Support of Gays (5) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Merlyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merlyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, God forbid that the military might be able to think for themselves instead of buying into crap like that spewed by Santorum. The man is a puketard. I hadn&#039;t heard about him bringing home a dead baby for his kids to bond with. Ewwwww.

I do not understand the whole Log Cabin/GOProud shtick. Get a clue boys and girls: the Repukes do not want you...the big tent doesn&#039;t want you in it (along with the moderates). You guys just look pitiful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, God forbid that the military might be able to think for themselves instead of buying into crap like that spewed by Santorum. The man is a puketard. I hadn&#8217;t heard about him bringing home a dead baby for his kids to bond with. Ewwwww.</p>
<p>I do not understand the whole Log Cabin/GOProud shtick. Get a clue boys and girls: the Repukes do not want you&#8230;the big tent doesn&#8217;t want you in it (along with the moderates). You guys just look pitiful.</p>
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		<title>By: Signs of The Times? Liz Cheney Wants Gay Soldiers, CPAC Bigot Booed Off Stage &#124; The Zero Boss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Signs of The Times? Liz Cheney Wants Gay Soldiers, CPAC Bigot Booed Off Stage &#124; The Zero Boss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We still have yohos like Rick Santorum working himself up into a frothy off-white mix about how the military brass has been &#8220;indoctrinated&#8221; into supporting repeal of Don&#8217;t Ask, Don&#8217;t Tell. But there are signs of ice cracks. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We still have yohos like Rick Santorum working himself up into a frothy off-white mix about how the military brass has been &#8220;indoctrinated&#8221; into supporting repeal of Don&#8217;t Ask, Don&#8217;t Tell. But there are signs of ice cracks. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Besen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Besen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand the need for education. This can take time. Part of our role is explaining to people that we are not a threat and their children cannot &quot;catch&quot; the gay. So, in that sense, we are proving we are a positive and not negative influence on family and society. 

But, our ultimate goal is to demolish the arguments that are used to oppress us.

Where groups like Gay Propaganda Parrot go wrong is that they serve as apologists. They act as though our opponent&#039;s lies have some merit. They entertain the dumb notion that &quot;America isn&#039;t ready&quot;, so we must know our place. They undermine those who demand equality now by agreeing that we are radical and outside the mainstream. In doing so, they provide comfort to our foes and allow them to justify their bigotry. 

The goal of gay conservatives groups is to argue for equality from a conservative point of view. This is too often confused with rolling over and selling out the LGBT community for, at best, access, and at worst, a pat on the back. (when no one is looking) 

If these groups would focus on making conservative arguments, instead of inexcusably defending bigots like Santorum, they might have some value. 

But, how often do they make the correct move and actually have an impact? 

Not very often....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the need for education. This can take time. Part of our role is explaining to people that we are not a threat and their children cannot &#8220;catch&#8221; the gay. So, in that sense, we are proving we are a positive and not negative influence on family and society. </p>
<p>But, our ultimate goal is to demolish the arguments that are used to oppress us.</p>
<p>Where groups like Gay Propaganda Parrot go wrong is that they serve as apologists. They act as though our opponent&#8217;s lies have some merit. They entertain the dumb notion that &#8220;America isn&#8217;t ready&#8221;, so we must know our place. They undermine those who demand equality now by agreeing that we are radical and outside the mainstream. In doing so, they provide comfort to our foes and allow them to justify their bigotry. </p>
<p>The goal of gay conservatives groups is to argue for equality from a conservative point of view. This is too often confused with rolling over and selling out the LGBT community for, at best, access, and at worst, a pat on the back. (when no one is looking) </p>
<p>If these groups would focus on making conservative arguments, instead of inexcusably defending bigots like Santorum, they might have some value. </p>
<p>But, how often do they make the correct move and actually have an impact? </p>
<p>Not very often&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Hurst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Hurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know, right?

But it&#039;s par for the course.  They try to play cute with language, but they basically buy into the Religious Right&#039;s argument that gay unions are &quot;different&quot; and that we, essentially, need to prove to straight people that we&#039;re worthy of the institution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, right?</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s par for the course.  They try to play cute with language, but they basically buy into the Religious Right&#8217;s argument that gay unions are &#8220;different&#8221; and that we, essentially, need to prove to straight people that we&#8217;re worthy of the institution.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Besen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Besen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh....my......GOD.....I just went to your link at the Gay Parrot Propaganda site and I can not believe that they defended that vile and probably insane bigot Rick Santorum. That was really taking it to a new and disturbing low, as far as giving cover to those who get elected on the backs of our families. 

Shame on those apologists. It&#039;s just embarrassing, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh&#8230;.my&#8230;&#8230;GOD&#8230;..I just went to your link at the Gay Parrot Propaganda site and I can not believe that they defended that vile and probably insane bigot Rick Santorum. That was really taking it to a new and disturbing low, as far as giving cover to those who get elected on the backs of our families. </p>
<p>Shame on those apologists. It&#8217;s just embarrassing, really.</p>
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