You mean one consisting of child sacrifices, polygyny, women as property, incest, rape, and contempt? Because that’s the “good family” that you folks seem to be supporting with all your bible thumping.

This is a case of perverts, PFLAG and liberal overpaid educrats on one side versus good morals and families on the other. I wonder which will win come election day?

“At a time when former homosexuals and lesbians are facing increasing intolerance…”

This tired old complaint of “intolerance” has been heard time and again from the “ex-gay” brigade during the past few years. Similarly, an anti-gay fundamentalist lady, writing last year on a conservative Anglican web-site in the wake of a NARTH presentation in London, whinged that “reparative therapy” had been “shouted down”.

Such charges are laughable. One might just as well complain that kidnappings by extra-terrestrials have been “shouted down”, or accuse such bodies as CSI (Center for Skeptical Inquiry) and UK-Skeptics of intolerance.

What “ex-gay” claims are being met with is severe and amply justified scepticism. Scepticism is not intolerance.

Thanks for your suggestion. While this would be another arrow in our quiver, the fact that PFOX is run by people like this ex-con would not make a difference legally if the flyer program were to continue. But the proposition that the PFOX approach contradicts standard medical and health care practice might be a winning legal ground to keep the program while barring PFOX. If a full legal analysis shows that that would be consistent with judicial precedent, then the Board will need to decide whether it is more expeditious to change the flyer program and defend a lawsuit, or whether it would be more expeditious to eliminate the high school flyer program altogether. The goals is to prevent these anti-health fliers from being distributed. How we do that is not yet clear. What is clear to me is that the Board of Education is on our side. We are working with them, not against them.

http://pfox.org/equal_access.html

It goes to the above link, which was written by Arthur Abba Goldberg – an ex-convict.

A FU*^@#^ EX-CON IS IN CHARGE OF PFOX’S SPEAKER PROGRAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLO???

http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/02/7116/

Why on earth was that not the lead in PFLAG’s letter?

Here is your headline: “PFOX uses flier to send send MCPS students to ex-con.”

End of story. Game, set, match. Flier gone from schools. You win. They lose. That simple.

You know, Truth Wins Out has tried to stay out of this controversy out of respect for local organizations. But, we are available and we don’t miss things like ex-cons running PFOX’s speaker’s bureau.

I don’t necessarily agree with you. MCPS is not on our side if they are allowing this flier. They may be sympathetic and good people, but they should never have let that flier see the light of day based on the fact it came from PFOX.

It is plainly obvious to any thinking person that PFOX presents a clear and present danger to children and is a hate group. This is not debatable and the evidence is incontrovertible.

Yet, MCPS put politics ahead of children and delivered them directly into the hands of unstable, politically motivated and extremely dangerous con artists.

The flier is more than simply a flier. It is a conduit to PFOX’s website, which puts children in the hands of people like Richard Cohen.

Either our side made a poor case showing that PFOX is a hate group or the MCPS was not listening to the facts. If we expect to win, we must connect the dots.

This is not about free speech, it is about protecting children from a bizarre group of predator, quack therapists who are a threat to children.

I think you are giving too much credit to MCPS. They have failed to keep children out of harm’s way. Thus,they have failed at the most basic and elementary part of their job.

This one paragraph in the letter is on the right track:

PFOX is not a benign organization; the contrary is the case….”

Our case should narrowly focus specifically on the insanity of PFOX….it is the easiest case to make and the one that is winnable.

Thank you for posting our letter to the Montgomery County Board of Education. I urge everyone to read the whole letter.

With all due respect, it is not accurate to say that MCPS “falsely claims to be required by court rulings to host the antigay fliers of an organization whose leaders call for the imprisonment of all LGBT people, including parents and students.” As you can see from the letter, there is a real legal question as to whether the fliers can be banned IF the school system chooses to continue with the general flyer distribution program in the high schools. It is simply not fair to impune MCPS’s motives here. The MCPS people with whom I have been in contact thus far are as horrified by the PFOX flyer as we are. We are working with MCPS to deal with the situation.

This is not a situation in which MCPS is caught between PFOX on one side and PFLAG on the other. As the letter demonstrates, it is PFOX on one side and MCPS, PFLAG, and the rest of our community in Montgomery County on the other.