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By: Ben in Oakland

Ben in Oakland — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:39:32 +0000

Which pretty much proves my point. you pick the parts of the bible that agree with your particular agenda at the moment, and ignore the parts that don’t.

Which is it: judge not or judge?

By: nate

nate — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:00:11 +0000

john 7:24…”judge not according to the appearance,but judge righteous judgment”.

By: Ben in Oakland

Ben in Oakland — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:47:56 +0000

Brad-Most of the people who condemn gay people and make our lives as difficult and unpleasant as possible do so on the basis of their religious beliefs, and they will usually admit it. First, of course, is that just because someone says that something is his religious belief does NOT make that a true statement. Religion has always been used to rationalize existing prejudices. Gid is what these people use to justify what they cannot justify by any other means. And even if true, that they rely on their current reading of the bible neither justifies it nor makes it right.

More important is the question of religious freedom, which means nothing if there is not freedom FROM religion as well. I have no objection to these so-called Christians believing whatever they please within the confines of their homes and churches. I thoroughly object, however, to their religious beliefs being made into public policy, and the coercive power of the state used to enforce those religious beliefs on people who do not share them.

The hypocrisy is most obvious here. As a Jew, I totally reject the notion that God sits in heaven judging us for sins of his devising, that he had a Son, and that believing (whatever THAT means) in this Son will save us all from eternal damnation. As a Jew, my civil rights are protected from discriminatory action and behavior on the part of Christians who seem to have no problem–at least in public–with my rejection of their entire theology. But nothing gets them more upset than the thought that I might be violating a minor prohibition in a mostly ignored book of the Old Testament.

Good Christians used to torture and burn suspected witches (and Jews, heretics, and other Christians) with exactly the same certainty that they were doing and expressing God’s will with which they now attack, pursue, and ocndemn gay people, and with about as much justification, biblical or not.

We don’t believe in witches any more, right?

What part of Judge not Lest Ye Be Judged does NOT apply to good Christians such as yourself?

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:10:35 +0000

Brad, those people are christians just like you in that they oppose gays just like you do. They are on your side and they refute your absurd claim that the most vile, hateful, and intolerant people out there are liberal bloggers. Obviously the most vile, intolerant, and hateful people out there are on your side, not ours.

By: Evan Hurst

Evan Hurst — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:56:38 +0000

I love how Christians always b***h and moan about how the people who embarrass them the most aren’t “true Christians.” It’s a constant exercise of moving the goalposts, because most fundamentalists are indeed such embarrassing people.

By: brad anderson

brad anderson — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:47:06 +0000

pryia
the examples you gave do not represent the views and
beliefs of christians like myself. To begin with
niether if those people can be considered christians
judging by thier video and post. Also no conservative
who really follows the bible and Christ’s teaching
would advocate violence on gays. believeing that
the Bible condemns homosexuality does not automatically
make one a hater. For example, I would not approve
of anyone firing someone because they are gay, or oppose allowing them hospital visitation rights, etc.
so, having said that, I ask you to please stop lumping
those of us who are conservative christians in with
true haters like those two men in your examples, and
fred phelps, etc.

By: Truth Wins Out - ‘Ex-Gay’ Michael Glatze Attracted To Spotlight Like A Mosquito in June

Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:01:07 +0000

[...] on the very platform God told him to avoid. A person who would openly defy God to appear on a hate group’s radio show in the dead of night (with an audience you can count on one hand) is the definition of a [...]

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:50:36 +0000

Brad, here’s another example of the attacks from your side on gays:

http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2010/03/video-decapitation-is-less-than-what-should-happen.html#comments

You need to scroll up a bit to see the video. The gay community has nothing remotely as vile, intolerant, and hateful as what’s coming out of your side.

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Truth Wins Out - The Truth About Religion and Absolutes — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:49:06 +0000

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By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:12:13 +0000

Right William – how dare we be intolerant to those who want to demonize us, evict us from our homes, fire us from our jobs, and deny us the right to marry.