I just do not know what to do with this, but PZ Myers posted it, and that means I have to pass it on to you. It’s the website of a guy named “Herb Grossman,” dedicated to exposing the “evil” of acknowledging the fact (he calls it a “belief”) of evolution:
Hello, My name is Herb Grossman. Let me give you a preliminary idea of why I am so against evolution.
I’ve spent a lifetime solving problems for a living, and you don’t solve problems unless you use good logic and good data. The theory of evolution became my concern several years ago, and when I looked at some of its basics, its explanations just did not look right. I decided to make a serious study of this so-called “science” and became utterly amazed that evolutionists can use their childish thinking, make their claims, and still keep a straight face–how can adult human beings think that way? To be more precise–How can people use bad logic, ignore good data, and still have the nerve to claim to be scientists?
Yeah, so you can tell this is going to be totally sensible and chock full of factual citations.
Mr. or Miss Teenager of America, please read my articles closely. Your life will be much improved if you reject evolution and its way of thinking.
Ho-kay! He addresses most of his website to “Mr. or Miss Teenager of America,” so you can tell he’s got some weird fixations.
Let’s just get to the part about gayness, shall we?
No one has to be a homosexual, because—
—Homosexuality is a Cruel Deception,
Good deal. Wait, there’s more?
and you should not worry about possibly being a homosexual, because there is no such thing–
Fantastic. Rekers is in the clear, then.
homosexuality is an evil supernatural trick!
Dammit! And here I thought I was into dudes because my mom was such a pain. TELL ME MORE.
I still sometimes get supernatural “urges” towards perversions or homosexuality, but by immediately rejecting “it” (both physically and mentally), “it” goes away.
Crikey. If even “Herb Grossman” is taunted by the Supernatural Talliwhacker Goblins, are any of us safe?
What I write or say concerning belief in evolution being a major encouragement towards homosexuality is not meant to win some popularity contest.
But do not touch his tiara.
Some of you will laugh and think I am stupid for writing this
I can’t imagine.
but the shoes I have walked in—the years of aggravation while fighting off the cause of homosexuality—have given me a certain amount of sympathy for the homosexual and a hatred for the way evolution is such a big factor in keeping many of them trapped in their unfortunate perversion.
Lest any of you be waiting with bated breath to see how Herb is going to prove that believing in evolution causes Teh Gay, let me just spoil it for you: he doesn’t. I like the way this guy admits he likes dudes, though, the entire time he’s arguing against homosexuality. Rekers, you might have a career ahead of you yet!
Did you know?—One Wednesday night I became angry at a church concerning a speaker they had. I left, and that anger kept occupying my thoughts.
Put on your seatbelts.
At home I lay back on the couch (still angry) and fell asleep. The next thing I knew, a bearded man was pulling me up into a sitting position—he pulled me part-way up, then I fell back; he pulled me up again and then disappeared. Besides disappearing, the really supernatural part of this is that he was reaching through my chest, and I could feel his hands gripping my spine!
Does that seem bizarre, incredible?
No, Herb, happens to all of us. Anger. Sleep. Supernaturally raped by bears. And then morning again.
Also, even if you have no homosexual inclinations, your life will be better if you realize that there really are supernatural “people” with great powers, some of whom want to ruin or even destroy you and your life. Tricking some humans into the lifestyle of homosexuality is certainly one of their destructive objectives.
In case you were thinking “Well, I’ve never been violated by an invisible bear daddy so this isn’t about me,” do not close tab. You need to know about the other goblins, as well.
What follows is his long testimony of becoming a Christian, and I think even our more evangelical readers will agree that it reads like an extended hallucination. For instance:
‚ÄîOne time I was sitting on my bed and put my hand behind me to lean back. The palm of my hand landed on what seemed like a square hot-water bag. The “bag” then wiggled violently and disappeared.
To this day, Herb freaks out when he sees the Tea Party Express drive by.
Anyway, his new life with Jesus was going great until
It wasn’t long before I fell into about three months of doing perverse, homosexual acts with invisible, supernatural people/beings
It’s cheaper than rentboy.com, and you don’t even have to buy dinner. Anyway, yes, gay goblins?
Strong thoughts and sensations would get things started, but I was not the cause–no pornography used. Somebody had control of me!
Gay goblins who make the first move. Hawt.
(I did meet up with some visible demonic types, but those encounters, although weird, were not of a homosexual nature).
All the demons were women, you see.
One thing I can claim, though, is that while this “person” worked with my mind and/or body in many different situations, I can, fortunately, say that all of my “homosexual” activities were in private‚Äîand with no worldly being, human or otherwise.
Wait, what sort of “otherwise” would he possibly be talking about, that he would feel the need to include that? And is it me, or is it getting sad and lonely in the indented quotes?
The problem for the homosexual and the potential homosexual is that this supernatural “person” who instigates (starts) the homosexual sensations and thoughts may or may not make “his” existence known‚Äî
‚Äîand that is how the deception works‚Äîputting thoughts and sensations in your mind and body but not revealing “its” supernatural presence!
Oh, so you see, even if you’re not mind-numbingly insane to the point of inventing gay goblins to torment you, they might be in there hiding just the same, being very quiet!
My freedom from these attacks has not come easily.
In fact, Casper the Really Friendly (And Frankly, Surprisingly Forward) Ghost is trying to give me The Long Stroke right this minute, and I keep batting him away, but my hand…can’t…grasp…him…
So, Teenager of America, I would surely hope that you now accept that we live in a world that has powerful supernatural “people.”
I’m convinced. How about you, teenagers of America?
Anyway, at the end, there is an asterisk, with a clarification:
*I have never acted in any perverted/homosexual manner with any man or boy, nor felt any attraction/sensation towards the same.
Herb Grossman: Only gay for watchers, sprites, daemons, spirit guides, etc. Basically, if Sylvia Browne talks to it, it gives Herb a boner.
I trust that we’ve all learned meaningful lessons from this, yes?
Wow. Just wow. And this guy thinks those who accept evolution are weird. If I had a kid and I caught him or her looking at this guy’s website, we would be having a good long talk. I’d tell them that if they’re GLBT, they are fine as they are and don’t need to change, no matter who tells them otherwise. Of course, I would also have been raising them all along that being GLBT is just fine. You are what you are.
This guy has some really major screws loose.
Apart from this man’s silly writings, I think he is perfectly right to link homosexuality with evolution – both phenomena pose a threat to religion, and by default, the place and fate of God and the soul.
The abolition of the concept of God over the last 6 centuries has been a slow, violent process, that re-emerged with Copernicus, who showed us that we were not the centre of the cosmos; continuing with Newton, who showed that all space obeyed the same laws, and that there was no ‘space’ for a god; David Hume and the enlightenment thinkers all but removed the need for a mind at work. But if all these great people diminished God, it was really Darwin who demolished god, for good. How clever of god to pick the one method of creating life that made him redundant! We’ve gone beyond Darwin now, and the opening of the genome has settled the matter.
Evolution is a fact, and the only way religion will survive is to defend the book of Genesis as literal truth. Any religion that concedes to the facts about the natural world is bound to fail in the long run. Of course, you can bury your head in the sand about evolution, because at least you can’t see it happening. Everybody can see thriving, happy, well-liked, respected, accepted homosexuals contributing to society – this really does shatter their fantasy world.
I think these people are crying for help – they are like little children who need an eternal supervising parent. Or slaves with Stockholm syndrome. The idea of their master not existing must petrify them. We need to reach out to these people, and show them, they can free themselves of their mind-mannacles, and stand up on their own two feet. Learning how lucky they are to be alive – and you can only apprecite that through understanding evolution – is the first step on that journey to hinking for yourself.
At first I thought Herb was a good example of DEvolution, but then just realized he was psychotic.
BTW, progressive/liberal churches have no problem with evolution, nor the full inclusion of us glbt folks.
Evan, it’s not polite to poke fun at people who are quite obviously insane. But since you did I must say you did a fabulous and quite amusing job of it.
;-)
“I still sometimes get supernatural “urges” towards perversions or homosexuality, but by immediately rejecting “it” (both physically and mentally), “it” goes away.”
After 20 long years, this genius helped me figure out what Faith No More was singing about in “Epic”:
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IT’S “IT”!
WHAT IS “IT”?
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“IT” = ghostly urges to f**k.
Is there a homosexual ghost-whisperer in the house?
“…is that this supernatural “person” who instigates (starts) the homosexual sensations…”
Wow, I sure am glad he told us what “instigates” means. He’s so generous, sharing his knowledge with us dumb folks who don’t know basic middle-school vocabulary or have access to dictionaries. If he hadn’t done that, I might have thought the supernatural “people” were mocking his urges, or something.
So, he has perverse acts with invisible beings, which means he’s pretty much just walking around dry-humping the air. Either that or he thinks masturbatory fantasies count as sex. In any case, this is some grade-A crazy right here. Not quite Time Cube material, but maybe close to Kent Hovind or Crazy Sprinkler Lady levels.
I must ask the GLBT community to consider the possibility we are being Flacked. Have y’all noticed the vast increase in non-reputable (AKA utter b******t) being fanned and farmed by the Right. It’s almost as if they’re trying to pose so much BS as to keep us busy. Perhaps, trying to keep our focus off–Perhaps trying desperately to distract and dillute our efforts towards equality.
Let’s review: Eleven States out of fifty grant gays marriage or equal-to marriage. That’s 22%. For a population in whom only 5% actively participate, that’s a 400% return on investment! This wasn’t accomplished by swatting at flies and trolling along with smelt fishermen when the catch is Sharks and Whales.
It seems to me every time someone says something incredibly stupid and\or totally lacking in credibility, we’ve become conditioned to address it. Why? Disputing their Science and attitude is a valid, noble, valuable effort. We should redirect the time we spend on their b******t over to thanking the straight people who help us promote our cause. Let’s thank them instead of debating with morons.
“It seems to me every time someone says something incredibly stupid and\or totally lacking in credibility, we’ve become conditioned to address it.”
Actually, Merrell, that is precisely why we are winning. We only started winning when we addressed the lies. We were losing before this. You’ve got it backwards, in my view.
And those straight people who support us? They so so because we swated those flies so they could justify their support.
Hey Wayne. I saw you on CNN the other day. Dude, you’re on fire! I love the professional, sexy, and calm way you answer questions, giving those answers with thoughtful education and depth. Just watching you hash with Bill O’Reiley, I can tell that he really is a decent man, just by the way you banter with him. Your respect and yet, “take no prisoners” attitude is a great combo. I love it, for us all.
What I meant, and perhaps even in this, I’m uneducated, is it seems to me that the oppressors are foddering–throwing up ANYTHING, saying absolute…well, like I said, “incredibly stupid…lacking in credibility” to work you to death, to work our momentum to death. This is a very effective tactic in politics. It’s how legislation dies. I should have posed my thoughts as questions. Should be consider some things too indignate to justify as arguable? I read this particular article and thought to myself, ‘Why is Wayne even bothering with this spectacle of an idiot?’ You obviously disagree and I bow to the education and insight of the Court. Perhaps I am the one who needs a perspective adjustment. I will consider the matter. In the meantime, stay sexy.