Ex-Gay Watch has found that Exodus International President Alan Chambers is applauding the break-up of a long-term lesbian relationship. They apparently have now turned to his shallow and insincere version of Jesus Christ. According to Chambers’ comments on Face Book:
Heard from a couple this morning who have been praying for their daughter and her partner to come to Christ for 22 years. Both accepted Jesus, broke off their relationship and are pursuing a life in Christ. God is faithful and answers prayers. Be encouraged no matter your circumstances!
Only in the inverted, bizarre world of the pathological “ex-gay” industry is decimating a loving family a victory for family values. Ex-gay survivor Daniel Gonzales points out at Box Turtle Bulletin that Mike Haley of Focus on the Family actually advises parents to undermine same sex relationships of their children. In his 2004 book, “101 Frequently Asked Questions About Homosexuality” he says:
In the meantime, I advise you to pray that he (a son) becomes as miserable as possible, as soon as possible, and that God will protect him through it.
And just think that Haley was part of a program called Love Won Out. What a sick joke.
…As miserable as possible, as soon as possible? You’ve gotta be kidding. What kind of loving parent would WANT their kid to be miserable? Oh, nice touch with the “protection” bit, though. Like that makes it all better.
Any gay stupid enough to do that deserves the miserable life they create. No sympathy at all.
Religion is a pathology of the ignorant and weak-minded authoritarian.
How much do you have to hate your child to spend 22 years destroying her relationship–then to rejoice after you’ve done so?
I’ve been preaching for decades, THIS is exactly why we, the LGBT people, need to take our own relationships far more seriously. A gay man is no threat to religious conservatives. However, two gay men who come together in love and establish a family is at the heart of their fear. Two lesbians – nearly the same. It’s a trade-off for lesbians having a slightly easier time socially but, we still end up suffering equally.
We, both gays and lesbians, have the power RIGHT NOW to destroy their lies and end their reign of terror in America forever just by learning one word: Commitment.
Sure, I can cheat on my husband (single right now but been married 25 years). I can but, do I truly understand the real price? What is the price of offending my own stated values?
Drive through ANY middle income and upper income neighborhood in America. Look at the houses your pass. NONE of those homes are owned by a single person, and if they are…it’s a miserable existence. When we join together in love the two obtain the power of ten. It’s their power, it’s been their power and now the secret is out: It’s EVERYONE’S power! That’s why they’re afraid. They’re terrified we’ll do it better, as if it was and “either – or”.
Me have to take on the challenge and stop seeing a desire to be married, a desire to be in a relationship, a NEED for another, as a “negative” thing. Stop listening to Oprah. She was single in her twenties, thirties and she’ll probably always be single. I bet if you asked whether the money was worth the loneliness, you’d be amazed at the answer you get. I would give EVERYTHING I own to be married to a man I love. Love is more important than all else.
We must PREFER relationships, VALUE commitment and endure hardships so that true love can grow.
Merrell Barry O’Brian,
For the most part, I agree with your comments, right up until you say that no homes in middle or uppper income neighborhoods are owned by single people, and if they are, their existence is miserable.
Ahem, I live in one of those upper income neighborhoods, and guess what, I bought my home with my own hard-earned income. And I’m single and most assuredly NOT miserable. I have great friends and family, a job that I mostly enjoy, and a host of other things in my life that make me happy.
I don’t think you should make blanket statements about single people, any more than straights should say that gays and lesbians lead unfulfilled lives for whatever their “reason” might be.
It strikes me that conservatives, but particularly the religious right, see the world in black and white. You’re right or you’re wrong. You’re good or bad. They have no tolerance for shades of grey, for those who are different or who dare not to fit the mold or who dare to think for themselves. I’m afraid that you’re doing the same with your insistence that to be happy, we must be coupled.
If you’re unhappily single, I’m sorry to hear it, but please don’t assume that the rest of us are.
“I don’t think you should make blanket statements about single people, any more than straights should say that gays and lesbians lead unfulfilled lives for whatever their “reason” might be. … [Conservatives] have no tolerance for shades of grey, for those who are different or who dare not to fit the mold or who dare to think for themselves. I’m afraid that you’re doing the same with your insistence that to be happy, we must be coupled.”
You must’ve missed the part where he blamed effeminate men for discrimination against LGBTs (calling male femininity a deliberate act of defiance against culture and normalcy, and implying that it’s unnatural, while doing so), and then said we bash each other more than straight people do.
I already apologized for that hateful ranting. But honestly Mayucki, I’ve already got one a*****e in my pants, baby. I don’t need another…and especially a stalker. So, peel off.
Anyway, Blanket statement inappropriate but I’m extremely pleased you found common ground in the vast majority of the comment. Just like myself is one, you are one and neither of us are, “the rest of us”.
Wow, his site is really weird too. Thanks for the heads up, Makyui..
Lawl, I’m a stalker because I mentioned you in one comment, in reply to another comment that was sitting in plain view on the front page?
You did apologize, twice, but they were bookending more ranting about how effeminate men are just sticking it to The Man (if you’ll pardon the pun), and how embarrassing they are, and that if only they tried hard enough, they could be just as macho and manly and loved as they’re “supposed” to be. Forgive me if I’m not too confident in your sincerity yet; I’ve heard it from other people before. Once bitten, twice shy, and all.
See, this is exactly what I fully believe in my heart. The criticism always goes back to the man and not the opinion. My “site” is so weird. Yes, I’m “the freak”. I’m a man who enjoys being a man and believe strongly that the majority of difficulties gays have in obtaining our rights are caused by the very vocal fringe. Really?
I didn’t take an ice creamer scooper and dig out my nut sack. I didn’t split my cock like a hot dog and shove it up into my body to make a vagina. I’m not taking shots to grow titties. If I did, I’d have then become the “T” in the LGBT and in a similar way, Lesbians don’t give advice to gay men on masculinity, I would not have that right. I write about the “G” part of the LGBT. That’s it! Then, I wouldn’t go out and attack “G” for expressing their opinion on masculinity. Bottom line, I use words like “every” and “all” when I should say the vast majority and nearly everyone instead. I’m not weird, freakish or calling out peoples work as if they represent their opinion.
So, you don’t wanna read the greatest novel written in the last sixty years then, you’re missing out. But, back to point, I fully support Lesbian relationships and all loving relationships. They are the core of all our strength in the LGBT and must be encouraged and valued.
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Sorry Merell but Makyui is right you come off as judgmental and bigoted as those who demonize the GLBT. You have posted about effeminate men being the bane of the GLBT community. Now you attack those who are single as somehow miserable. I have tons of single friends. And they run the gambit. Some are extremely happy and some not so much. I also have many str8 and gay partnered friends and the same holds true.
You also attack couples who do not fit your ideal of what a gay couple should be. There are a few things wrong with your argument. My husband and I have been together 22 1/2 years. We love each other very much. But we are not totally monogamous though we aren’t running the streets hooking up with anyone either. Most people who know us except for a few close friends have no clue we are not monogamous. They see us like any other couple. Hell I have no idea if my str8 friends are monogamous and I don’t care. I see them for what they are a couple plain and simple.
Merrel said ” I use words like “every” and “all” when I should say the vast majority and nearly everyone instead.”.
You greatly overestimate your ability to know what “the vast majority” and “nearly everyone” thinks.
Merrel said “I’m not weird, freakish or calling out peoples work as if they represent their opinion.”.
One’s opinion most certainly does represent who they are. One’s oppinions aren’t somehow miraculously seperated from who we are as individuals. Your web site discredits you as does the vitriol you spew at those who harm no one. Your hatred of feminine gays and trans people is over the top and beyond any justification.
And the transphobia shows itself to the light of day! Finally. Do you feel better?
Is that really how you’re going to respond? Belittling trans and cis women, elevating yourself above trans women, implying that men with even the slightest femininity need to just get it over with and get a sex change? Pushing trans people and feminine men to “the fringe” of the community? Implying that trans gays don’t exist? Implying that your opinions can never be challenged as bigoted and hateful because YOU ARE A MAN RAAR RAAR.
I’m not a lesbian, by the way. I’m a man. Maybe you don’t agree with that; frankly, I’m not taking that for granted from you anymore. And I DO have a right to tell you that your d00dly opinions about trans women and feminine men are full of hate and ignorance, as does everyone else here. You take for granted that everyone’s–sorry, most everyone’s opinions align with your own. That ain’t how it is. Maybe you should remember that in the future.
You are not the ultimate gay guru. Maybe instead of yapping about your SUPERIOR opinions and making excuses for hate, you should shut your trap once in a while and listen. It does a body good.
Patricia and Tim have it on the money: single people aren’t automatically miserable, and promiscuous and/or non-monogamous people aren’t automatically miserable or wrong or bad. No one has an obligation to partner up. What applies to you doesn’t always apply to everyone else.
Excellent post.Ne’er knew this, appreciate it for letting me know.