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Posted May 25th, 2010 by Evan Hurst

Scott Lively made his career by perpetuating the revisionist lie that the Third Reich was a homosexual movement, claiming that only burly macho male homosexuals were capable of committing the heinous genocide of the Holocaust. Last year he went to Uganda and told that audience that not only was the Holocaust perpetuated by homosexuals, but that the Rwandan genocide was also likely the work of male homosexuals. For these and many other reasons, most any group affiliated with Scott Lively in any way has earned a spot on the SPLC’s list of anti-gay hate groups. Perhaps the American Family Association is angling for such a designation itself. I can’t imagine why, since they surely know, privately, that virtually no one under 35 in this country supports people like them. This is why they’re all pathetically trying to “reach out to millenials,” a group which is blessedly out of their grasp, for the most part, as a voting bloc. But as long as they allow Bryan Fischer to speak, we can only deduce that the AFA has completely jumped the shark into full-on Fred Phelps/Scott Lively territory, and that they should be addressed as such.

Watch this video, via Right Wing Watch:

If you can’t watch, here’s the transcript:

So Hitler himself was an active homosexual. And some people wonder, didn’t the Germans, didn’t the Nazis, persecute homosexuals? And it is true they did; they persecuted effeminate homosexuals. But Hitler recruited around him homosexuals to make up his Stormtroopers, they were his enforcers, they were his thugs. And Hitler discovered that he could not get straight soldiers to be savage and brutal and vicious enough to carry out his orders, but that homosexual solders basically had no limits and the savagery and brutality they were willing to inflict on whomever Hitler sent them after. So he surrounded himself, virtually all of the Stormtroopers, the Browshirts, were male homosexuals.

He doesn’t specifically cite Scott Lively, but again, we know where that particular lie came from, so Lively’s work is obviously informing Bryan Fischer. The problem here is this: Scott Lively is completely fringe and respected by very few people in the United States, and instead has to run off to foreign lands to spread his bile, places where people might not Google him quite so quickly. Fred Phelps has no credibility with anyone, anywhere. But there are still many Evangelical churches where the American Family Association is considered just a normal, run-of-the-mill Christian organization like any other. We who have been paying attention to their radicalization know otherwise.

In my opinion, this should earn the AFA a hate group designation on two fronts: Both as an anti-gay group and as an anti-Semitic group. It is my strongly held belief that anyone who seeks to obfuscate or revise ANY part of the well documented history of the Holocaust for their own purposes is engaging in fierce anti-Semitism. This should not be a surprise coming from a Fundamentalist Christian source, as I explained fully here. To use that very real event and scare-monger people into believing that the perpetrators of the greatest genocide in recent memory were such monsters due to their alleged homosexuality is beyond the pale, and it’s nothing short of a modern-day blood libel. (Again, not surprising coming from a fundamentalist strain of Christendom, since Christendom frickin’ created the blood libel. And I don’t want to hear any fundamentalist Evangelicals giving me any crap about how that was Catholics, because a fundamentalist is a fundamentalist. I don’t care what strain of that virus you’re infected by, because the behaviors and the end result tend to be the same.)

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5 Comments »

  1. I’m compiling a list of Fischer’s “greatest” hits for a piece on my blog and the Huffington Post. Anyone who wishes to help me, please email me at charlekenghis@aol.com

    of course your name will be mentioned in a “hat tip.”

    Comment by a. mcewen — May 25, 2010 @ 6:18 pm

  2. I think I’ve done most of the writing about Fischer at TWO, because I think he’s a peculiar kind of moron, so if you click on his tag, you’ll probably get to a bunch of posts about him.

    Comment by Evan Hurst — May 25, 2010 @ 9:03 pm

  3. There was a book written in the 30s (I forget the name), by an American that had this same homophobic bullshit in it. The author said that the nazi movement was run by a ‘bunch of homosexual gorillas’. As far as I know, Ernst R??hm, who was the leader of the Sturmabteilung (brown shirts), was the only prominent nazi who was gay and didnt try to hide it very much. He and the rest of the SA leaders were butchered on the Night of Long Knives because Hitler saw them as a threat to his power as well as a thorn in the side of the regular German army, who Hitler needed for obvious reasons.
    All homosexuals were sent to the death camps, not just the ‘effeminate’ ones. The nazis were obsessed with increasing the ‘Aryan’ race and anyone who’s sexuality didnt contribute to this, was toast.
    The assertion that straight men couldnt carry out the holocaust, only gays, is so ludicrous that I won’t even comment on it. Besides, I wonder if Fischer is even aware of the Lebensborn program, which was essentially a baby factory for the ‘master race’. Nazi girls volunteered to be impregnated by SS men, who WERE the ones who carried out the holocaust!
    It’s interesting that Fischer’s name is spelled the German way, methinks he has more than a little ‘nazi blood’ flowing in his own veins!

    Comment by Gary (NJ) — May 26, 2010 @ 10:06 am

  4. How incredibly pig ignorant. Let’s see, the Night of the Long Knives, where the SA (aka “Stormtroopers”) were eliminated as a force in Germany, was June 30, 1934. Kristallnacht, which generally is accepted as the start of the Holocaust, was November 9 and 10, 1938. Fischer is so bad at revisionist history that he’s not even qualified to be on the Texas Board of Education.

    Comment by kk33deg — May 27, 2010 @ 7:04 pm

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