Comments on: Doctors Contemplate Altering Nonconforming Unborn Girls

By: Regan DuCasse

Regan DuCasse — Sun, 04 Jul 2010 19:29:09 +0000

I think too…that submitting kids to this lab rat thing is appalling. Why subject gay or gender variant people to anything like this at all?

If any experimentation should be done, is allowing all equal rights, access and protections the laws allow everyone else.
And then see what happens when prejudice against the LGBT is attacked, instead of when gay people are.

That’s a brave new thing I’d like medical and psychiatric and religious professionals to engage in.

Seems like they are resolved to try and force gay people into intense scrutiny and have their lives and children be an open book, while at the same time keep gays and lesbians at a distance from even discussions on the laws and events that directly affect them. However negatively.
But are cowards when it comes to the OTHER side of what’s necessary in determining the outcome of their hypothesis.

By: Regan DuCasse

Regan DuCasse — Sun, 04 Jul 2010 19:20:58 +0000

Evan, what ‘real condition’. As far as this doctor’s agenda is concerned, it’s not a condition that compromises competence or the ability to be happy and well adjusted.
What New is doing, is manipulating the minutae of individual gender EXPRESSION along with gender variance, which is NOT a medical condition but one of personal characteristics.
She’s also trying to manipulate what she considers maternal instincts in females. She wants to force wanting children on girls, when that too is something better left to individuals.
Not everyone is cut out to be a mother. That’s certainly true of hetero women, and not always true of lesbians.

And NOT wanting to have children, isn’t a medical or mental condition either.
And having the ability to effectively and lovingly care for a child is as much circumstances as it is individual ability.

So much of the impetus is rooted in the wrong thing for the wrong reasons.
Prejudice against females and the assumption that females are meant for and should be in very narrow definitions of their place in society.

Prejudiced people can make up all kinds of crazy s**t to rationalize their abuses of an unpopular group.
In the 1850′s a medical doctor coined the name ‘drapetomania’ in black slaves. He considered their need and actions of running away to be a mental disorder to be cured by punishment and forceful disincentive.

Sound familiar as to how religious and medical professionals addressed homosexuality?
Which isn’t a ‘condition’ at all, now is it?

Evan the one persistent and considerably irrational mental condition that is dangerous to others, is the persistent and virulent need to be cruel to those who are gay or gender variant.

And also, considering conditions like Alzheimer’s, schizophrenia, bi polar disorder and depression can render it’s sufferers disabled, and incapable of self reliance and there IS serious suffering involved, I’d say New’s and other endocrinologists attacking whatever makes people gay or gender variant to be exceptional in it’s folly when other mental health conditions are far more urgent and cruel.

By: Gary (NJ)

Gary (NJ) — Sat, 03 Jul 2010 13:59:07 +0000

I wonder if the roman catholic church will speak out against this form of eugenics? I doubt it.

By: Christine

Christine — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:59:54 +0000

Heino F. L. Meyer-Bahlburg was on the DSV-IV subcommittee for Gender Identity Disorders – it’s frightening that he (and perhaps his colleague) have so much power in the medical profession.

Thank you for keeping us informed about this.

By: Evan Hurst

Evan Hurst — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:57:44 +0000

That sounds good, AIC intern, but it also seems like you’re spamming our comments section. Not cool.

By: AIC Intern

AIC Intern — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 16:02:34 +0000

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By: Angie

Angie — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:33:20 +0000

My god. This sounds like something out of BRAVE NEW WORLD!

By: Evan Hurst

Evan Hurst — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 09:48:34 +0000

The problem, Brandon, is that all the attention is focused on this one woman, who herself has only prescribed the drug one time, when there is a very real condition involved, and no evidence that parents in any widespread way, or doctors in any widespread way, are trying to administer a drug to prevent fetuses which would become lesbians.

This is what I’m talking about when I refer to the hysteria in the reporting.

Far too few science reporters are being cited on this issue.

The drug needs to be studied, and obviously this Dr. New character is not the one to do it, because of her biases.

By: Brandon

Brandon — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 09:32:01 +0000

For god sakes, it’s 2010! What was the women’s liberation movement for if not to allow women to think outside the box and not have to be relegated to strict gender roles? So what if she’s a lesbian or a little ‘boyish’? Big freakin deal! Is the sky falling? Let her be herself. The solution to ignorance and prejudice is NOT to genetically engineer our children, esp. before birth.

By: Brandon

Brandon — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 09:29:46 +0000

I don’t know what could possibly justify manipulating a fetus’s development with drugs, esp. to “prevent them from being gay or tomboyish.” It’s stupid! Because ignorant and fearful homophobic parents can’t just deal with the possibility that their kids might be gay and love them for who they are, they have to go and do b******t like this. It’s ridiculous! Because these people are too uncomfortable with gayness or people not conforming to their black-and-white gender perceptions, they need to f**k with their daughter’s biology in the womb??

It’s inexcusable. Who CARES if she’s a lesbian or tomboy? Let the girl grow up normally and don’t f**k with nature. She’ll be fine. What situation could possibly justify this, Evan? I say that society needs to just grow up and stop being so damn insecure about sexuality and gender issues, not avoid dealing with them by drugging their children.

Gay, straight, lesbian, bi, trans, it doesn’t matter! A person is essentially the same with any of these. It’s not like gayness causes a man to be any more promiscuous than a straight man with a high sex drive. Using the drug this way reeks of eugenics. It’s sick and must be prohibited.