Rachel Maddow reports on the kill-the-homos “minister” Bradlee Dean, who lurks behind Target and Best Buy’s favored Minnesota political leaders, Tom Emmer and Michele Bachmann.
After initially distancing himself and Exodus International, spokesman Randy Thomas gushed over Dean in this interview.
After backing away from his own endorsement of antigay extermination, Dean projects his own predatory behavior toward youths onto gay people. Emmer defends his financial donation to Dean’s hate-the-gays band, saying “These are nice people.”
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So, the drummer states that the Muslims that are calling for the execution of gay people are “more moral than American Christians” because they (Muslims)are following the Bible better in calling for homosexuals deaths. Also, the 117 people, on average, that he states have been molested (destroyed)…..does anybody EVER call these people on their statistics? EVER?!?!? They’re relying on inflammatory rhetoric to support/validate their agenda. Facts are not necessary for them, obviously. Puh-leeze. They don’t rely on God………..they rely on lies.
“They don’t rely on God………..they rely on lies.”
You don’t need truth when you’re speaking for God. If anybody calls you on your lies all you need do is cry about how persecuted you are because of your Deeply Held Religious Beliefs.
Well as long we have free speech—Let’s just instigate a little mayhem ourselves and shoot all Homphobe b******s and start with the Religious Right ministers.
Some hate what they are most.
Those of us here in Minnesota know the likely result of this — in a year or two Bradlee Dean will be in a similar situation to that of his friend anti-gay minister Rev. Tom Brock, who was recently outed.
The rumors about Bradlee Dean have been circulating for years, and keep coming anew.
“Sodom and Gomorrah”
God cannot bear the shame of homosexuals- it is despicable!
If God would wipe them out then we are to follow, AIDs was born to be the thorn of the gays…unfortunately the immorality of the populous brought the disease on us. It is not a homophobic procedure to quarantine the homosexuals, but an act of faith- like when God told Abraham to separate himself from them. I fear for America’s last bit of sanctity.
God Be With U.S.
Kirin Talos
Kirin: Your comment is called “hate speech.”
But, of course, Kirin. A loving God decided to seek revenge on the gays by producing a nasty bug. But then He saw that heterisexuals were misbehaving too and got pissed. The solution god came up with was to punish thousands of babies and hemophiliacs. Nice!!
And, of course, it’s not homophobic at all to stigmatize and brutalize gay people. It’s an act of love to uproot them, tear apart their families and quarantine them.
Thanks for clarifying and sharing the love and grace of God.
If I were a lier and a hypocrite who didn’t love people (like Christ commanded us to) then I would lie to you and everybody reading, but lets face it…we will all die some day, and then there is only two places to go heaven or hell. I share this with as many people as I can because they need to here. (But what if God doesn’t exist?) If he doesn’t exist and I die believing he did, then I die like everyone else, but if he does exist and you’re wrong, then you’ll burn. See my logic here…that is why I find these websites and share with you. (Most christians talk and argue amongst themselves…when it’s the rest of the world that needs Christ) The quarantine is just a baptism of fire…hopefully they all would see the logic in believing…even if God doesn’t exist.
A Brother in Christ,
Kirin Talos
Kirin:
Thanks for your input. I’m sure your appealing vision of God will have found many converts on this site. You may be the most persuasive evangelist I have ever encountered. No doubt with missionaries like you, fundamentalist Christianity will continue to grow and prosper. Keep spreading The Word.
oh yeah. sign me up (eyes rolling).
Damn I was an atheist but Kirin’s vision of a vengeful nasty spiteful God has changed by ways. I have seen the light. Boy no one I want to follow then someone with such vile and hate. Where do I sign up?
Did you not listen? I know that I may never change anything, but guys…in 30 years the estimated people with STDs ratio will be 1:1. I don’t care whether you’re gay straight or something else…we the people of America have to do something about it.
An American,
Kirin Talos
P.S.
Maybe you guy could give Christ a try. :)
Should we give Christ a try because you believe in praying away the STDs, Kirin?
Maybe YOU could give Christ a try.
Start with “JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED”
Kirin,
I have been an evangelical Christian for almost 35 years and I NEVER heard a legitimate Biblical exegesis arrive at the fanatical and un-Christlike position you expouse.
“God cannot bear the shame of homosexuals- it is despicable!”
While it is true that in Genesis God condemns the actions of the people of Sodom and Gomorrah that goes much deeper than the issue of homosexuality. Sodom was a complete breakdown of moral order to the point that mobs would rape
strangers, even attempting to rape the Angels of the Lord. That perhaps was the most severe rejection of the ancient culture of hospitality.
You say “God cannot bear…”
There is no Biblical justification that God treats modern homosexuality different than other issues. God said He hates divorce. Should we execute divorced people?
“If God would wipe them out then we are to follow”
You simply cannot take one act of judgment out of context and apply it to the modern world. Jesus saved the woman caught in adultry from stoning and said “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone” You are not without sin. You are not God’s avenger. You are not equal to God.
“AIDs was born to be the thorn of the gays…”
No. All illness and death is a result of sin in general but does not necessarily correlate to the acts of an individual. In other words, we live in a sinful and fallen world with the consequenses of that but even Jesus warned not to assume every situation is a results of a persons own sin. You have ignored Jesus’ warning. You are making your own cultural bias into a theology that most Christians reject.
A call you a fanatic because you take one issue and make it extreme in importance beyond others without Biblical basis. You are confusing a cultural bias with a Biblical mandate. I urge you to reconsider your statements and obsession with homosexuality.
You can believe homosexuality is sin but you can’t claim you are mandated to be God’s angel of judgment. Instead, why don’t you just tell people of the love of Christ and let God deal with the sexual issue. It’s not your job to change anyone anyway and I fear you are doing great damage to the Church with your opinions.
Your ‘Hate is Love’ is just Orwellian doublespeak.
Brother, I implore you, love God by living out your personal morality in your own life, junk your un-Biblical obsession with homosexuality and let God be God and do the judging.
“I have been an evangelical Christian for almost 35 years and I NEVER heard a legitimate Biblical exegesis arrive at the fanatical and un-Christlike position you expouse”
then you haven’t been paying attention.
See Falwell and robertson on 9/11.
Swaggart: “It’s the WORST sin”.
and a host of others.
but thanks for the otherwise supportive words.
Ben, your welcome.
I did say “legitmate Biblical exegesis” and I contend that Falwell, Robertson and Swaggart were wrong to over emphasize homosexuality.
I attribute the 9/11 comments to shock and bias. Swaggart of course has his own moral problems and was rightly booted out of his denomination for not following their dicipline- I guess he would have lost too much money to stop preaching for a year or so as they demanded.
Swaggart: “It’s the WORST sin”.
Oh, I forgot, it had to be the “WORST sin” so he would not feel so bad about his liaison’s with a prostitute in which he claims like Bill Clinton he never had sex with that woman..he claimed he just liked to look. Oh, wait, Maybe Bill got that from Jimmy.. Anyway, that was 1988.
It turned out he was caught with another prostitute in 1991 who contended that he asked for sex this time. A few months of rest and recuperation this time and back to work I guess. Probably on all fronts.
Anyway, he is STILL in business today. Most Christians I know don’t think much of Swaggart but you just can’t underestimate the power of celebrity and a good Southern accent in a preacher.
Dear Bob,
Unlike you I have not spread the word for 35 years. (Bravo!!!) I’m thankful for people like you… but when I say quarantine- I don’t mean death- I mean the separation of sin from man, though we will only achieve perfect life through eventual death, I even tend to “quarantine” myself from others so I can deal with my sin face to face with my Creator, my Prosecutor, and my Savior!
Thanks!
Kirin
P.S.
I still say give Christ a try! :)
When you say robertson… do you mean Pat Robertson?
And yes God cannot bear to be in the presence of any sin, because he is the absence of sin.
Kirin, when you say Christ…do you mean Jesus Christ? Because your preaching sounds nothing like his. I suggest you go back and read your Bible. Some Sunday scool teacher really let you down and taught you some misguided ideas about religion.
I’m sorry that you have not opened your ears to the truth, I speak the hard truth because I wish someone would have given me the speech. Lets face it… sin is only punishable by death- eternal torture in hell. If homosexuality is as bad a sin as a lying or divorce, then it still reaps death. Then the only way to save yourself is to give it all up to Christ. Turning to Christ is a change, you give up your sin. This would mean giving up your homosexual ways. (Also, I was taught by the best. :) ) Bob, Anyone can twist the truth, the bible say that “Even Satan knows the word of God.” Unfortunately, your 35 years have taught you nothing, and you are more blind than the lost.
Good Luck!
Kirin
“Father forgive them for they not know what they do.”
- Jesus Christ – as he took on the world’s sin
Everyone,
I will pray for everyone here… life is complicating, and however you live your lives I’ll pray for your success.
In Faith,
Kirin
P.S.
STD ratio in 30 years will be 1:1 people… we have to do something.
Kirin, did you manage to graduate from high school, or were you home-”schooled?” You live in a world with enormous educational opportunities, and yet you have apparently chosen ignorance and superstition as being superior to authentic knowledge. Sad.
So Kirin,
– This would mean giving up your homosexual ways.
You should not have ANY problem, then, with your daughter marrying a man who was been through the “ex-gay” ministries.
I graduated from a public high school and I am currently a neurologist (I’ve seen a lot of miraculous recoveries!)… and if that former gay man was repented completely, then my daughter could marry him, yes. He is just like the rest of us sinners. I would applaud him for his repentance and the bible says so would heaven… it says that heaven “rejoices” every time someone has secured eternal life.
In Faith,
Kirin
P.S.
What is your mission statement?
My mission statement is to ask questions. :-)
I was taught in Southern Baptist Sunday School that God knows EVERYTHING, past, present, and future. So God already knows if I’m going to heaven or hell, right?
So if God already knows where I’m going, there is nothing I can do to change my destination. If I CAN change it, that means that God is not omniscient, that He does not know the future.
So which is it? Is God all-knowing or not?
All the responses I get from Christians are “you shouldn’t ask questions like this” or “Satan has put these ideas in your head” – all of them non-answers. My problem with Christianity (and I have no quarrel with Jesus/God) is that it CLAIMS to have all the answers. I will never be a Christian for this reason.
Besides, since I was taught that God is omniscient and omnipotent, I have to assume that He gave me this magnificent brain AND He knew ahead of time that I was going to ask these questions. He could have easily have backed off on my mental capacity so that I wouldn’t ask such questions. It was God’s choice to make me this way…
P.S. I don’t claim to have all the answers, unlike Christianity. That is why I ask questions :-)
Kirin said, “. . . I am currently a neurologist (I’ve seen a lot of miraculous recoveries!).”
If you mean “miraculous” as in “God did it,” then, no, you have NOT seen any. But if you have some legitimate documented evidence of God healing an amputee, please get back to me.
Homosexually Yours,
Richard
Phillip,
I don’t wish to get into a long theological debate since the question you raised has been debated by professional theologians for thousands of years. but I just wanted to put up one thought for your consideration;
What makes you think God can’t change the past, present and future together?
Phillip writes;
I was taught in Southern Baptist Sunday School that God knows EVERYTHING, past, present, and future. So God already knows if I’m going to heaven or hell, right?
So if God already knows where I’m going, there is nothing I can do to change my destination. If I CAN change it, that means that God is not omniscient, that He does not know the future.
So which is it? Is God all-knowing or not?
Kirin says,
“and if that former gay man was repented completely”
Please define what you think that looks like.
Kirin write;P.S.
“STD ratio in 30 years will be 1:1 people…”
Nonsense. Physical impossibility.
“we have to do something.”
No, we don’t. This is alarmist. Stop being so afraid of what might happen. Just live your life and love other people. Share your truth one on one in conversation where you can get a good give and take. And listen more that speak! Talk to all types of people with love. Be willing to admit that, though God is true, you may not understand everything and you may not be able to answer every quesition or need. In fact I hope you give up that feeling a lot of Evangelicals have that they simply have to have the final answer to everything.
I used to be like that myself. I am not saying Scripture is wrong, I am saying it was written to believing people but we modern Christians like to beat the world over the head with it and make the world live ny our rules.
“Bob, Anyone can twist the truth, the bible say that “Even Satan knows the word of God.” Unfortunately, your 35 years have taught you nothing, and you are more blind than the lost. ”
Maybe, God only knows. I have learned in my years as a believer in Christ that God does not make special rules for Christians. We have no special deals, no special protection, no free pass out of life’s many difficulties, no promise of instant cures or changes in our innermost thoughts and desires (read sexuality), life is the same as with everyone else (as it really should be). We are only promised the presence of the One who loves us.
“So if God already knows where I’m going, there is nothing I can do to change my destination. If I CAN change it, that means that God is not omniscient, that He does not know the future.
So which is it? Is God all-knowing or not?”
Kinda puts a damper in our free will, too, doesn’t it? If God knows what we’re going to do before we do it, then our decisions are already made for us, and we don’t really choose to do anything so much as follow along a predetermined script.
So, if God is an all-knowing, we don’t have free will. If God is all-knowing, we don’t really make choices.
If God is all-knowing and homosexuality is a damning sin, then nobody is really choosing to be gay and God is willingly letting people live lives of sin, even if they end up in Hell for it.
Therefore, if God is all-knowing, then either homosexuality is NOT a sin, or God is a giant a*****e who allows people to live sinful lives and/or go to Hell.
What a toughie. ;)
Makyui, one possibility is that God is outside of time as we know it and experiences or knows all time, past, present and future simultaniously. So, the idea that if God knows what I will do then I don’t really have free will may be due to a human limitaion, being trapped in the flow of linear time. It may be just our limited perspective.
Good Luck Everyone and goodbye.
With best intentions at heart,
Kirin :)
What Is God’s Purpose For Man?
If you go back to Genesis, you find God telling men to “be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion…” (Genesis 1:28). God wants man to be fruitful. That can mean reproduction in terms of having children, but it also means spiritual reproduction. It means bearing fruit for the Lord, producing love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control (see Galatians 5:22-23).
God wants human beings to increase and grow. Artificial limits on growth are not biblical. The concept of zero growth, for example, is not biblical; and the concept of the socialist-type government, which puts arbitrary controls on a man’s ability to make money or create or invent, is not biblical. God wants man to be a fruitful, creative, reproducing individual.
God also wants men to have dominion over Satan. He wants us, as His representatives, to subjugate Satan. Jesus Christ gave us that authority. He wants us to do away with the works of Satan–to take away poverty, to lift the yoke of oppression, and to take away ignorance and lack of faith. He wants us to bring a blessing to people and to liberate them from the forces that would destroy them.
Then, when we have taken dominion over the things that will hurt our fellow man, He wants us to take dominion over the earth. We are to have dominion over the streams and the air, and the fields and the birds, and the animals in our world. We are not supposed to pollute the streams and befoul the air and rip up the minerals in this earth just for personal gain. We are supposed to be intelligent stewards, under God, of all these things. God wants us to manage the world as His sons and daughters. He wants us to bring about righteousness in this world. Our main purpose for being on earth is to be stewards of God’s creation, to grow in God, and to function as God’s sons and daughters.
In the WESTMINSTER SHORTER CATECHISM, the Presbyterians say that man’s chief aim is to glorify God and enjoy Him forever. The mandate in Genesis to take dominion has no meaning apart from giving glory to God. We are to be subject to Him, to love Him, to walk with Him, and to have fellowship with Him.
The prophet Micah sums it up when he says, “And what does the Lord require of you but to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God” (Micah 6:8)?
Bob: That doesn’t really argue against PhilipJ’s or my points. Kinda confirms it, actually; living in a linear timeline with a god that knows our future decisions means that we are destined to make such decisions, which means we’re just following a predetermined script.
How Can I Have Free Will If God Knows Everything In Advance?
This is another question that theologians have wrestled with for years. The Bible tells us definitely that God knows everything. Furthermore we are told that God has planned (or predestined) certain things. We were chosen in Christ from the foundation of the earth (see Ephesians 1:4). So if God knows everything, and He also has the ability to control everything, then how, indeed, can we have free will? Doesn’t God have to work it all out in advance? The answer to that is no.
His foreknowledge could be likened to a motion picture. If we watch a movie we see the frames in sequence, so it looks as if Act 2 follows Act 1 and Act 3 follows Act 2. We see what looks like consecutive action. But if you were to take that same piece of film and hang it up on the wall, you could see the end, the beginning, and the middle all at once. You really would not have to control the action in order to see what was going to happen. In an imperfect sense this illustrates how God’s foreknowledge and our free will can coexist.
Yet there are dimensions of life that are beyond our understanding. The concept of predestination and foreknowledge, as opposed to free will, makes up one of those dimensions. If we say, “Well, it is all up to man,” then we err, because that is not the case. If, on the other hand, we say, “It does not matter what we do, because God has prearranged it all anyhow,” we are wrong.
There seems to be a tension between two ostensibly irreconcilable points: The free will of man, and the foreknowledge and predestination of God. Our theology is lopsided if we fail to include the reality of free will and predestination together.
The way I like to look at it is as if you have a basketball game consisting of visible and invisible players. The ones who make the points are the visible players, and yet the invisible ones are there feeding the ball and strategy to the visible players. Assume that the invisible players could act and interact with the visible players, or at least they could whisper signals and directions over the shoulders of the visible players.
In this illustration, the invisible players would be controlling the action. But from all an onlooker could see, the visible players are in charge of the entire game. In this analogy, the visible players represent man’s free will, while the invisible players represent God’s Spirit, angels, and demons. Visible and invisible are working and interacting together. There is not some timeless, immutable decree from God that governs man, but constant, loving help and direction from Him as well as hindrance from the enemy.
We will understand the full mystery when we know God better.
What Is Predestination?
Predestination is a term that refers to God’s determination in advance that something will happen in accordance with His fixed purpose. Although the noun predestination is never used in Scripture the verb predestinate is used four times (Romans 8:29,30, Ephesians 1:5,11) and refers to God’s determination that the Christian will be blessed as a result of salvation. God’s choice of individuals who would be saved is referred to by the word election.
Two seemingly opposite concepts are involved in the idea of predestination and election. First, God, who is sovereign in the universe, is in complete control of human events and the lives of individuals. If that were not so, He would not be sovereign, and, thus, would not be God. Second, God has given people a freedom of choice to do as they will. We are accountable for our own actions and nobody can say, “When I sinned, I just did what God wanted me to do, and so why is He holding me accountable for it?”
Scholars have struggled with these seemingly opposed concepts for centuries, and two major views of predestination have developed. Calvinism holds that God offers irresistible grace to those whom He elects to save. If you are among the elect, you cannot say “no” to God. Arminianism, on the other hand, holds that God’s grace is the source of redemption, but it can be resisted. In Calvinism, God has chosen the believer; in Arminianism, the believer has chosen God.
The apostle Paul, in explaining the obstinate refusal of Israel to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ, could have given a synthesis of predestination and free will that appeals to human reason and fairness. Instead, he said, “God has mercy on whom He wants to have mercy, and He hardens whom He wants to harden” (Romans 9:18). Then he described Pharaoh, King of Egypt, about whom the Bible says, God hardened his heart (see Exodus 9:12). We must remember, however, that sunlight hardens clay and melts wax. It all depends on the substance being dealt with. If Pharaoh’s heart had been tender, God’s power would have softened it, not hardened it. Therefore, the concept of predestination and election is never an excuse to sin; as the apostle concludes, “O the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His paths beyond finding out” (Romans 11:33).
Where Do People Go When They Die?
Their bodies usually go into the ground, and they go back to the dust from whence they came. The spirit of man, on the other hand goes into an everlasting state, because spirits are immortal and cannot die. As I understand the Bible, at death those who are Christians go to be with the Lord, to a place of bliss called paradise. Those who are not Christians go to a place of suffering and torment called hell. They wait there for a final judgment, while those who are dead in Christ wait for their final rewards.
The Bible does not teach soul sleep. For example, Jesus told about a rich man and a beggar named Lazarus (see Luke 16:19-31). When he died, the beggar went to a place called Abraham’s bosom, where he was comforted by the patriarch Abraham and other Old Testament saints. When the rich man died he went to hell, or Hades. He asked Lazarus to come over and give him just a few drops of water, saying he was tormented in the flames. In this story we note that both men were conscious. They knew their own identity, and they recognized other people as well.
There was also some kind of torment. Since fire does not hurt spirits, it is possible that the fire may be symbolic (see Daniel 3:25-27). It could be the fire of remorse, of thinking what could have been, yet was missed. Hell is also pictured as outer darkness, where there is loneliness and weeping and gnashing of teeth (see Matthew 8:12). There are other references to a lake of fire (see Revelation 20:14-15). Whatever hell is, it consists of eternal and unending anguish apart from God and all that is good.
Will There Ever Be Lasting World Peace?
Absolutely! We will have lasting peace on earth when the Prince of Peace returns. Jesus Christ has told us, and the Bible assures us, that He will come back again. When He comes, several things are going to happen. First, the rebellion of man against God is going to be put down. For a thousand-year period, God will restrain the evil that is in man and will not allow nations to fight one another (see Revelation 20:3-6). When that happens, men will take the tools of war and turn them into tools of peace. Isaiah 2:4 says that men will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks, and that people will not learn war anymore. With Satan out of the way, and man restrained, there will finally be peace.
The Bible goes on to say: “When the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them (Revelation 20:7-9).
When this prophecy is fulfilled, when Satan’s final rebellion is crushed, there will be permanent peace. God will put away, out of His kingdom forever, everything that offends. He will take Satan and his followers and put them permanently into a place of captivity. From that time forward, there will never again be war. Until the earthly reign of Jesus comes, however, men will continue to fight one another. Jesus said there will be “wars and rumors of wars” right up until the time of the end (see Matthew 24:6).
There is no way that a United Nations, a League of Nations, peace treaties, disarmament treaties, or any other human instrument can bring about peace. Such things mean nothing when one nation desires the land and resources of another. A lasting peace will never be built upon man’s efforts, because man is sinful, vicious, and wicked. Until men are changed and Satan’s power is removed, there will not be peace on earth.
Until that day comes, all we can do is be strong enough to restrain the evil that is among us. To do anything other than that is utopian and based upon wishful thinking rather than upon reality.
Please read and respond!!! :)
“the concept of the socialist-type government, which puts arbitrary controls on a man’s ability to make money or create or invent, is not biblical. ”
God gave people the right to form governments but did not mandate what they must look like. I am not a “Socialist” but that form of government is no less Biblical than any other. Also, don’t confure not biblical with anti-biblical. Cell phones are not biblical…
King, short to the point messages please!
“He wants us to do away with the works of Satan–to take away poverty…”
And yet… God is against public roads and public firehouses and public emergency services, and it’s more biblical for a man to hoard more money than he could possibly spend than to give it to starving people?
“and to take away ignorance and lack of faith”
God wants to take away looking for evidence, in favor of believing in things without, and despite, evidence?
“First, God, who is sovereign in the universe, is in complete control of human events and the lives of individuals. If that were not so, He would not be sovereign, and, thus, would not be God. Second, God has given people a freedom of choice to do as they will.
These two sentences contradict each other. Either God is in complete control, or we have the ability to make choices. One or the other.
“The spirit of man, on the other hand goes into an everlasting state, because spirits are immortal and cannot die.”
Evidence, please. Both of the existence of a “spirit of man”, and its immortality.
One who believes without evidence is said to have faith Makyui. God does want us to be good steward of the earth and to subdue it -the building of roads is a great thing, and anything else that aids man; not hurts him or offends God.
As to the government, Bob, any form of government that comes in between God and man is not biblical.
Makyui,
I cannot resolve a thousands year old debate. I just added a few thoughts. These also;
1) God knows all possible futures you may have depending on what choices you make but doesn’t interfere with you making a choice.
2) God potentially knows all but chooses to selectivly not know or perhaps to not keep in mind, certain aspects to satisfy your free will requirements.
3) God knows all possible futures depending on your choices but chooses to not see what choice you will make till you make it.
4) Many Worlds theory. Every decision you make is a new universe that plays out. This involves infinite branching. There is a universe where you are an rabid anti-gay activist. You ultimately exist over an infinite number of universes. In some you go to Heaven in some you go to Hell.
5) The human mind cannot reconcile that we have free will and that God knows all but God reconciles it.
Anyway, I don’t have the final answer.
“Bob: That doesn’t really argue against PhilipJ’s or my points. Kinda confirms it, actually; living in a linear timeline with a god that knows our future decisions means that we are destined to make such decisions, which means we’re just following a predetermined script.”
Makyui,
Because God is sovereign, he can choose to intervene in your life if he wants or he can choose to stay out let you drive.
The spirit is all faith based, technically, without faith christians have nothing to go on. (Except more supporting historical documents than any other religion.)
King, you say “any form of government that comes in between God and man is not biblical.” Do you want a theocracy in the United States?