This all depends on how one defines “gay.” I remember watching some church sermons by Ted Haggard after his “situation” became public, and immediately thought “my god, who ever thought he ISN’T gay?” And of course stereotyping aside, it was because he displayed all the affectations we associate with “gayness,” most of which, like most stereotypes, happen to be common. So Mr. Bachmann acts pretty gay. Maybe he desires men, like Haggard. But if he doesn’t actually do it — if he perceives it not as sexual attraction but as temptation by the Devil to commit a grave sin, and he has to force that Devil away by not giving in and sometimes dipping his wick into Michele to prove to Jesus that he’s handling it — then he’s not “gay” the way most of us think of gay, that is, simply having a natural preference for the sexual company of one’s own sex. This is one of the areas where religion can make something go away by just changing its definition. You’ll never be able to press this case with Bachmann supporters, because they speak their own version of English where the same words don’t mean what you think they mean.
Mark
July 9, 2011 at 6:52 am -
In response to my comment Richard Rush wrote: “You are – for crying “that’s not tolerant” when targeted people have the audacity to fight back against society’s bigoted bullies.”
Interesting…. I point out the prejudice and hypocrisy of your homosexual stereotyping and “homophobic” labeling of Mr. Bachmann and for that I’m accused of intolerance! Haha!
And as for “society’s bigoted bullies” I would point to all the shrill, obnoxious, militant LGBT stormtroopers in public and especially on college campuses around the country who are precisely that: bigoted bullies. Obviously, every faction in a society has its bullies, but it seems as if the Left is teeming with them.
So what do you call gay pride parades that look more like orgies than political assemblies? Most unfortunately, I’ve seen some of those pornographic displays firsthand, and wondered how a group of people could be so utterly self-centered and narcissistic as to think that other people in a free society should have to see that.
What do you call it when public schools prescribe books such as “Heather Has Two Mommies” and “Daddy’s Roommate” for elementary students? One would hope that a public taxpayer-funded institution would not engage in such political activity, but the facts are otherwise.
What do you call tenured, openly gay college professors in fields such as liberal arts, psychology, fine arts, etc. who use their positions to teach the acceptance of homosexuality and eliminate dissent within their classrooms, and even around campus? I have observed this firsthand as well, when I was a student myself. The usual methods are threefold: (1) manipulate the classroom discussion, often with the intent of goading religious students into “outing” themselves by raising objections to provocative statements; (2) marginalize any opposition, usually with a collection of well-prepared fallacies such as ad hominem attacks and strawmen; (3) using social stigma and the implicit threat of academic punishment to intimidate dissenters into silence and acquiescence.
So what do you call all that? I call it bullying, as I think any reasonable person would, but apparently many liberals call it “tolerance.” It’s a great example, I think, of how liberals “speak their own version of English where the same words don’t mean what you think they mean.” Thank you, Steve.
So again, I stand by my original question:
Who’s the intolerant one now?
Gene
July 9, 2011 at 8:42 am -
Mark, how on earth could any intelligent person see “Heather has two mommies” as political? It is not. It is a book showing kids that not all families are like theirs, and, for some kids, that other families ARE like theirs. That is just basic decency.
You sound like a now gone great uncle of mine who was in the Klan:
“What about MY rights to dominate everything? What are people being bigoted towards my opinions on race? Dont they know that they are being bigoted towards ME and MY right to live in a all white (put in “all officially heterosexual, no mention of gay people or their lives” in your case) world?”
Who is the intolerant one now
You are Mark. Period.
You.
Sean Nelson
July 9, 2011 at 11:29 am -
Talk about the “the pot calling the kettle black”, This guy is as gay as the come. From his manner of speaking to the way he walks. Your not fooling anyone Marcus. Gay people can spot other gays from a mile away. What a HYPOCRIT!!
Mark
July 10, 2011 at 10:47 am -
Well Gene, not only did you completely fail to grasp (or address in any substantive way) the obvious political, cultural, and moral implications of requiring young children in public schools (important word there, PUBLIC) to read about homosexuality, but you then proceed with the most outrageous ad hominem attack in which you actually and seriously compare me to a member of the Ku Klux Klan. And all of that simply because I turned the tables of the discussion to talk about bullying from activists on the Left.
Congratulations jackass, you just proved my point much better than I ever could have myself.
mitchco
July 12, 2011 at 10:55 am -
How did someone as seemingly STUPID as Michelle Bachmann get elected to congress? The fact that she is married to an obviously gay guy , and is persuing a program to “de gay ” homosexuals , is stupid , dangerous , and typical of everything that republicans stand for. Republicans want to deny that homosexuality is a valid lifestyle , want to deny that taxes help fund the government , want to deny that global warming , or climate change is a real and growing threat, want to deny almost everyhing that we take for granted. they do this partially out of total selfishness , and to talk down to their moronic constituants , and partially because thay just can’t agree with anything that a black president agrees with, just to screw up his presidency , and they will do anything and everything to achieve this goal.
John D.
July 12, 2011 at 2:48 pm -
En fuego.
PhillipP
July 12, 2011 at 5:21 pm -
Could he be any more gay?
questionauthority
July 12, 2011 at 7:44 pm -
My gaydar doesn’t go off that badly when Barney Frank speaks and he has long admitted he is a homosexual.
I suppose that Barney would be able to tell you.
Anthony
July 12, 2011 at 8:25 pm -
YOU GO GIRL!! This would funny if this person were not so dangerous and vile….calling gays and lesbians ‘barbarians”??? This is the kind of rhetoric that gets people killed. I hope this putz is outed, and damn soon!! His crazy wife has no chance to win, but if this queen is exposed, more the better.
Henriette
July 12, 2011 at 9:13 pm -
Wondering whether Marcus Bachmann is gay is like pondering over whether the planet Jupiter is large, if you get my drift.
Ash
July 14, 2011 at 10:23 am -
Well if she does win we will still have a first lady… at least on the inside.
I hate to “out” anyone but those ruby slippers have already fallen on the dance floor it seems. If he has been with a man I am sure it will not take long to tease that individual out from his closet if this anti-gay duo keeps climbing the political latter and I’m willing to bet the tabloids are looking to crack this case wide open.
Joe Mama
July 29, 2011 at 12:21 pm -
He’s such a queen he should be on British money.
Andy
August 14, 2011 at 6:24 pm -
So far in the closet, he’s not only found the christmas presents, he’s found NARNIA!
DeeDee
August 16, 2011 at 1:30 am -
I had heard stories about Marcus Bachmann’s gayness, but figured it was political slander, and paid no attention, especially as I can’t stand Ms. Teabag Bachmann. My curiosity got the best of me, and I decided to view him on YouTube; OMG, he could be the twin of the big bear on Modern Family!
I’m from a huge extended family which included two gay cousins to whom I was very close. The eldest was quite the queen, and babysat me beginning when I was two and he 20. He and his posse of gay caballeros spoiled me, gave me style advise, did my hair, taught me how to use makeup, etc. As a result, I have gaydar. Marcus, girlfriend, Narnia isn’t reality. Come out of that closet!
This all depends on how one defines “gay.” I remember watching some church sermons by Ted Haggard after his “situation” became public, and immediately thought “my god, who ever thought he ISN’T gay?” And of course stereotyping aside, it was because he displayed all the affectations we associate with “gayness,” most of which, like most stereotypes, happen to be common. So Mr. Bachmann acts pretty gay. Maybe he desires men, like Haggard. But if he doesn’t actually do it — if he perceives it not as sexual attraction but as temptation by the Devil to commit a grave sin, and he has to force that Devil away by not giving in and sometimes dipping his wick into Michele to prove to Jesus that he’s handling it — then he’s not “gay” the way most of us think of gay, that is, simply having a natural preference for the sexual company of one’s own sex. This is one of the areas where religion can make something go away by just changing its definition. You’ll never be able to press this case with Bachmann supporters, because they speak their own version of English where the same words don’t mean what you think they mean.
In response to my comment Richard Rush wrote: “You are – for crying “that’s not tolerant” when targeted people have the audacity to fight back against society’s bigoted bullies.”
Interesting…. I point out the prejudice and hypocrisy of your homosexual stereotyping and “homophobic” labeling of Mr. Bachmann and for that I’m accused of intolerance! Haha!
And as for “society’s bigoted bullies” I would point to all the shrill, obnoxious, militant LGBT stormtroopers in public and especially on college campuses around the country who are precisely that: bigoted bullies. Obviously, every faction in a society has its bullies, but it seems as if the Left is teeming with them.
So what do you call gay pride parades that look more like orgies than political assemblies? Most unfortunately, I’ve seen some of those pornographic displays firsthand, and wondered how a group of people could be so utterly self-centered and narcissistic as to think that other people in a free society should have to see that.
What do you call it when public schools prescribe books such as “Heather Has Two Mommies” and “Daddy’s Roommate” for elementary students? One would hope that a public taxpayer-funded institution would not engage in such political activity, but the facts are otherwise.
What do you call tenured, openly gay college professors in fields such as liberal arts, psychology, fine arts, etc. who use their positions to teach the acceptance of homosexuality and eliminate dissent within their classrooms, and even around campus? I have observed this firsthand as well, when I was a student myself. The usual methods are threefold: (1) manipulate the classroom discussion, often with the intent of goading religious students into “outing” themselves by raising objections to provocative statements; (2) marginalize any opposition, usually with a collection of well-prepared fallacies such as ad hominem attacks and strawmen; (3) using social stigma and the implicit threat of academic punishment to intimidate dissenters into silence and acquiescence.
So what do you call all that? I call it bullying, as I think any reasonable person would, but apparently many liberals call it “tolerance.” It’s a great example, I think, of how liberals “speak their own version of English where the same words don’t mean what you think they mean.” Thank you, Steve.
So again, I stand by my original question:
Who’s the intolerant one now?
Mark, how on earth could any intelligent person see “Heather has two mommies” as political? It is not. It is a book showing kids that not all families are like theirs, and, for some kids, that other families ARE like theirs. That is just basic decency.
You sound like a now gone great uncle of mine who was in the Klan:
“What about MY rights to dominate everything? What are people being bigoted towards my opinions on race? Dont they know that they are being bigoted towards ME and MY right to live in a all white (put in “all officially heterosexual, no mention of gay people or their lives” in your case) world?”
Who is the intolerant one now
You are Mark. Period.
You.
Talk about the “the pot calling the kettle black”, This guy is as gay as the come. From his manner of speaking to the way he walks. Your not fooling anyone Marcus. Gay people can spot other gays from a mile away. What a HYPOCRIT!!
Well Gene, not only did you completely fail to grasp (or address in any substantive way) the obvious political, cultural, and moral implications of requiring young children in public schools (important word there, PUBLIC) to read about homosexuality, but you then proceed with the most outrageous ad hominem attack in which you actually and seriously compare me to a member of the Ku Klux Klan. And all of that simply because I turned the tables of the discussion to talk about bullying from activists on the Left.
Congratulations jackass, you just proved my point much better than I ever could have myself.
How did someone as seemingly STUPID as Michelle Bachmann get elected to congress? The fact that she is married to an obviously gay guy , and is persuing a program to “de gay ” homosexuals , is stupid , dangerous , and typical of everything that republicans stand for. Republicans want to deny that homosexuality is a valid lifestyle , want to deny that taxes help fund the government , want to deny that global warming , or climate change is a real and growing threat, want to deny almost everyhing that we take for granted. they do this partially out of total selfishness , and to talk down to their moronic constituants , and partially because thay just can’t agree with anything that a black president agrees with, just to screw up his presidency , and they will do anything and everything to achieve this goal.
En fuego.
Could he be any more gay?
My gaydar doesn’t go off that badly when Barney Frank speaks and he has long admitted he is a homosexual.
I suppose that Barney would be able to tell you.
YOU GO GIRL!! This would funny if this person were not so dangerous and vile….calling gays and lesbians ‘barbarians”??? This is the kind of rhetoric that gets people killed. I hope this putz is outed, and damn soon!! His crazy wife has no chance to win, but if this queen is exposed, more the better.
Wondering whether Marcus Bachmann is gay is like pondering over whether the planet Jupiter is large, if you get my drift.
Well if she does win we will still have a first lady… at least on the inside.
I hate to “out” anyone but those ruby slippers have already fallen on the dance floor it seems. If he has been with a man I am sure it will not take long to tease that individual out from his closet if this anti-gay duo keeps climbing the political latter and I’m willing to bet the tabloids are looking to crack this case wide open.
He’s such a queen he should be on British money.
So far in the closet, he’s not only found the christmas presents, he’s found NARNIA!
I had heard stories about Marcus Bachmann’s gayness, but figured it was political slander, and paid no attention, especially as I can’t stand Ms. Teabag Bachmann. My curiosity got the best of me, and I decided to view him on YouTube; OMG, he could be the twin of the big bear on Modern Family!
I’m from a huge extended family which included two gay cousins to whom I was very close. The eldest was quite the queen, and babysat me beginning when I was two and he 20. He and his posse of gay caballeros spoiled me, gave me style advise, did my hair, taught me how to use makeup, etc. As a result, I have gaydar. Marcus, girlfriend, Narnia isn’t reality. Come out of that closet!