Vox Day is an idiot. Seriously. Sadly, No! has untold numbers of posts detailing the moronic spew that comes out of that writer’s cheeto fingers on a daily basis, so I won’t delve into the record too deeply. If you want a for instance, he once drew a parallel between forced clitorectomies in Africa and parents sending their children to public schools in the United States.
Wing. Nut.
But now Vox Day has decided to blame Tyler Clementi’s suicide on, yes, the gay rights movement. [Wayne, I might get mad in a minute, so...] Let’s look at it:
It was obvious from the start that the orientationally-challenged activists would attempt to blame Clementi’s death on his roommate. But the surreptitious filming of sexual activity, while an obvious breach of etiquette as well as the law in some states, is neither uncommon nor tantamount to attempting to destroy someone’s life. Nor should the online streaming be considered anything but a joke;
Ha ha! Some would consider it a form of rape, but…
The problem is not that American university campuses are intolerant of the orientationally challenged, as the subtext of the media coverage suggests, but rather that they are much too tolerant.
Right, if only they had hated gays a little bit more at Rutgers…
It is obvious that Clementi didn’t kill himself simply because his actions were made public; as a musician, no doubt he had been filmed before and some of those films may have even been put online. He killed himself because he could not live with the shame of knowing that everyone would be aware of his submission to what he apparently believed to be evil desires. While giving in to our desire for evil is something that we all do from time to time, it is also true that some desires happen to be more shameful or humiliating than others.
I wonder what created a climate that would have put in Tyler’s head the asinine notion that being gay is shameful! I wonder!
While Clementi may have been taught that his desires were wrong, (we don’t have any details on his upbringing, but the last name suggests a Catholic heritage), he was also steeped in years of indoctrination telling him that his abnormal desires were perfectly right and should not be resisted. That is why he felt free to act on them as soon as he got to college and out from under his parents’ eyes.
Oh, bullshit! The mere fact that the kid was so scared of being found out shows us that he was indeed indoctrinated by pig ignorant fools to believe that the sexuality that was natural for him was in some way evil.
Despite literal decades of preaching about the morality of homosexuality, despite the pansexual propaganda of the public and private schools, the knowledge that what he was doing was shameful and wrong still managed to penetrate Mr. Clementi’s mind.
Yeah, somehow unrepentant, uneducated bigots like Vox Day managed to damage Tyler Clementi. I can’t imagine how. I guess 13 year-old Seth Walsh was feeling the same way about his “shameful” actions. And 14 year-old Asher Brown. And 15 year-old Billy Lucas. And really, Vox, Matthew Shepard had it coming, didn’t he?
If anyone other than Mr. Clementi should be blamed for his suicide, it is those who repeatedly encouraged him to behave in a way that would fill him with such guilt, remorse, and shame.
Commenters: Please use all the words I am holding myself back from using right now, as freely as you’d like, about this repugnant boil on the grundle of humanity.










I think we should put a reward on video’s of Vox Day having sex being put on the internet. Lets see how he would like that.
Haha, Kim, people like that don’t tend to have much in the way of sex.
wow… I’m going to use one of those words you encouraged us to use… JACKASS… oh here’s another one, f*****g JERK… that being said, his ignornace of the human condition is staggering. I have no more patience for people like this, I just have angry response. Enough is enough, my response is shutting rhese type of people off in my little part of the world. No more trying to understand where they are coming from… I’ve had enough.
Unless you count their furious masturbatory sessions to pictures of gay-bashed teens.
Gotta love this: “It is obvious that Clementi didn’t kill himself simply because his actions were made public; as a musician, no doubt he had been filmed before and some of those films may have even been put online…” Yes yes, being filmed performing Brahms Violin Concerto in D major is hardly any different at all from your roomates posting a link to a secret web cam feed of you having sex that everyone on campus can watch.
Understand…this in all likelihood isn’t merely empty rhetoric. He almost certainly really believes that. If you’re willing to play classical music in front of an audience, well, just why wouldn’t you want to make pornography too??? What you have to understand about the American gutter is there is no bottom.
This is truly disgusting. And the comments on his blog are vile. These people all seem to have no empathy whatsoever.
Bruce, most writers like this are also rape apologists.
Indeed, if you click the link to the Sadly, No! archive of Vox’s writings, I believe you’ll find stuff just like that.
Considering the evidence and past experience, vox day (is that his real name?) must be a raging closet case. How long before his ‘boys’ come forward? It would feel good to let loose with a barrage of expletives against this syphilitic chancre, but out of respect for Tyler Clementi, I won’t.
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“Vox Day” is Theodore Beale. He may like to hide behind a stupid pseudonym, but let’s just use his real name.
Wikipedia profile is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Beale
Who knew there was a short bus version of Stormfront? Thanks for the nightmares, Evan. Now, I have to go boil my brain in bleach.
I know this is going to be painful to hear but something drastic needs to be done. We need to take a lesson from the pages of the black civil rights struggle in refrence to Emmitt Till (if your unfamiliar with the story please google it). Until there are pictures of these dead victims plastered all over the network news (not photos of vibrant smiling gays and lesbians as they were living) with their caskets open people really aren’t going to grasp the actual damage being done! Until the housewife in middle America starts too see that it might happen to her darling son or daughter and the straight community becomes infuriated as much as we are the cycle, in my opinion, will continue.
Guys I hate to say it, but you’re getting played. Vox Day will do anything for attention, anything to get the mean ol’ liberals to beat up on him, so he can rush into the soothing arms of some wingnut welfare “think tank” to protect him from those mean ole libs who didn’t like his fetal alcohol syndrome logic. This is the James O’Keefe method of fame for young conservatives today: a tragedy occurs, some wingnut crafts a tinfoil hat article about it filled with suppositions and assumptions and lies, and when everyone denounces him, he can claim he’s a deep thinker unloved by the great unwashed. Save your Snarkbolts (Rank 9) and Rain of Derision (Rank 4) for something else, because this guy is just trolling trade chat for a reaction.
I agree with LIt3Bolt. Vox is going overboard here to drive his traffic. The only truly bothersome thing (well, other than having to read the drivel he writes) is the meme that they’ve got going to try and make sure that no one accuses the sneaky little creeps who violated his privacy of anything major. Lord knows, they were full of intent to harm. But, the righties are sure that it’s a-okay to hate gays and make them feel subhuman. Way to go there, Vox Idiot.
I’m going to have to disagree with both of you. To suggest that Vox Day is just doing this for attention is to somehow suggest that this is unique behavior among wingnuts. They are all fairly craven in their desire to be noticed in their poop-stained garanimals in basements around the country.
Vox Day has been around for quite a while, has written at WingNutDaily for quite a while, and is thus a fully functioning member of the 101st Chairborne Brigade.
To imply that he’s going over the top in this situation alone also implies that this is different from his usual work, but if you click on the S,N! archive above, you’ll see that he’s been making equally retarded statements his entire “career.”
It is an unfortunate fact of political discourse in a purportedly educated nation such as this, that there are wingnuts on the internets. Choices have to be made as to who deserves to be smacked around regularly, and why. Sometimes it is for pure sport, as with Pastor Grant Swank. [Check World O'Crap for that archive] Sometimes it’s because it’s a constant wonder how one person can be so consistently stupid, day in, day out [See: Reynolds, Glenn; McArdle, Megan]. And in the case of the two wingnuts today, Alex Knepper and Vox Day, sometimes it’s more of an isolated case where you, as S, N!’s Tintin said earlier, are compelled, in the case of a tragedy such as the spate of gay teen suicides, to loudly encourage certain wingnuts to set themselves on fire.
So that’s why.
1) Webcam video of today is really no more than reputable “gossip” of twenty years ago. The incident caught on camera happened.
2) Clementi, God Rest His Soul, obviously could not stand the pressure of having this affair outed.
3) A better response might have been to do one’s own video touting his sexuality.
4) The danger is in being in the closet. No one really cares, so be open.
5) There is no a homosexual alive that could not find, if they wanted to, a heterosexual relationship.
6) If you chose a lifestyle, stand behind it; please.
1. An 18 year old from a conservative family had what could be his first sexual experience, recorded and shown to a bunch of strangers. Also, filming a sexual encounter without the expressed consent of all participants constitutes a form of rape.
2. It wasn’t only his privacy that was violated. There was another person in that video. We have yet to hear from him-I’m guessing that at the moment he’s an emotional wreck.
3. Coming out is a process and it takes longer for some people than others. How and when is nobody’s g*****n business but the person going through it.
4.a******s like Vox Day are proof that some people do indeed care. And some of those a******s are in a position to REALLY ruin the lives of LGBT folks on a broader scale.
5. Not all homosexuals think using someone to hide behind is acceptable. Also, sexuality is a bit more complicated-it’s not like switch brands of coffee.
6. There is no ONE “gay lifestyle”, and even if there was, it wouldn’t be defined by a single encounter.
7. Kindly go f**k off, tom.
The one comforting thought in this tragedy is that the homophobic dinosaurs are lumbering toward the tar pit. Not fast enough to suit me. Not quickly enough to avoid the tragic consequences their narrow minds inflict on people like Tyler Clementi, Seth Walsh, Asher Brown, Billy Lucas, Matthew Shepherd and countless others.
But the tide is turning, and I’m confident that eventually, people like Vox Day, Maggie Gallagher and other professional bigots will be held in the same esteem the Klan currently enjoys. Still, they’ll manage to do a lot of damage on their way out. Sad.
Tom said “5) There is no a homosexual alive that could not find, if they wanted to, a heterosexual relationship.”.
Tom you idiot, just because something can be done doesn’t mean it should be. a******s like you are the reason why self-loathing gay men enter into sham marriages and eventually destroy the lives of their wives/children when they find out they can no longer live the lie. It takes a phenominal level of selfishness to wish family destruction on people just because that makes you feel happy.
Tom is obviously some sort of clueless straight (or closeted gay) a*****e who doesn’t know wtf he’s talking about. Just another clueless dick with a computer.
a*****e s**t SUCKING FUCKBURGER f**k PIG SWINE SON OF A w***e a*****e m**********r JACKAL VULTURE s**t-SWILLING HELL BEAST BILE-DRINKING SUBHUMAN PUSTULENT CANCEROUS TUMOROUS INFECTION OF A SON OF A b***h a*****e OF THE UNIVEROUS UGLY PANTS-WEARING m**********r WHO DESERVES TO BE HUNG BY HIS BALLS OVER A PIT FULL OF POISONOUS SNAKES WHILE BEING HOSED WITH MACE WHILE SUFFERING FROM MENINGITIS AND STOMACH CANCER AND HAVING HIS GENITALS DEVOURED BY INSECTS.
ahhhhhhh…
Bravo, Joe Stroke (which I’m sure you’re doing right now after that fine intellectual rant). It seems you are quite brave and full of drama when you’re anonymous. How strong you are….how brave you are. What impressive verbal skills you have. Can I date you? Oh wait….never mind, I’m a hot lesbian who isn’t interested in dicks like you.
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