Also, water is wet. Responding to LCR’s support of ENDA, over at the old Gay Patriot:
I agree that private employers should not discriminate against gay people, but it is not the government’s business to tell them as much. Yes, indeed, Americans know that advancing employees by merit is what “wins” for business. And that is why most employers don’t discriminate against gay people. Once again, government shouldn’t be telling entrepreneurs how to run their enterprises.
They don’t need a nanny state to tell them as much. If a company discriminates against quality gay people, it will suffer in the marketplace, with a lower caliber of worker and a reduced efficiency of operation.
No comment. Y’all might have some.
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This is one of the core principles of libertarianism (the more right-wing, Ayn Rand version). I have friends who are Libertarian Party supporters and far be it from me to step on someone’s right to have an opinion, or vote or run for office. However, this particular breed of libertarianism often operates in some alternative, undiscovered and pretty darn creepy universe. Are civil rights laws perfect? No. But we need them for the same reason that we need environmental protection and or laws to make things accessible for the disabled. Civil rights laws provide a modicum of protection for employees/customers. They offer some level of accountability and I always get nervous when people suggest that the private sector or the government should not be held accountable for its actions.
Comment by ETJB — March 30, 2011 @ 5:24 pm
Well said ETJB. That said, I have NO problem stepping on stupid opinions.
Lets just, for example, change this fools (he has earned his title…I wont deny it to him) “arguement”
I agree that private employers should not discriminate against Jews, but it is not the governments business to tell them as much….
or
I agree that private employers should not discriminate against African Americans, but it is not the governments business to tell them as much…
etc. etc. etc.
Maybe (I HOPE NOT….even for THIS guy, it would be a sad state of existance) this fool would agree with the above statements. HE is already at total intellectual bankruptcy, so…who knows?
As per your reference, an accurate one, to Ayn Rand, here is the answer to the “Who is John Galt?” question. I have it on the back of my car.
Who is John Galt?
A bad characer, in a bad novel, written by a bad author and debased failure.
I bet Gaypatriot (sic) might really like her work. Wouldn’t surprise me
Comment by Gene — March 30, 2011 @ 5:37 pm
I keep wondering when all these God fearing Ayn Rand fans are going to realize that they can read a
cliff notes version by picking up a copy of Anton LeVey’s Satanic bible…
Comment by emma — March 30, 2011 @ 6:26 pm
Libertarians love to claim that if only businesses were left alone they’d do the right thing. But that’s just not the case. Tragedies like the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire, the BP disaster and the current slew of sex-discrimination lawsuits against Wal-Mart are perfect examples of the need for more, not less, government regulation of businesses.
Comment by Buffy — March 30, 2011 @ 6:59 pm
The idea that if a company discriminates against gay people it will suffer in the marketplace and be replaced by one that doesn’t discriminate is wishful thinking. There are a large variety of factors that determine whether or not a company succedes in the marketplace. An anti-gay company may do most things well and be a solid competitor despite their discrimination. This will often allow companies that discriminate to succeed and do well regardless and to continue their discrimination. It also may be the case that most or all companies in an area discriminate so there is no incentive for the situation to improve despite the wishful thinking of gaypatriot.
Comment by Priya Lynn — March 30, 2011 @ 9:29 pm
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Emma: do these god fearing Ayn Rand fans realize she was an athiest?
Comment by Paul Douglas — March 31, 2011 @ 3:55 am
This, it looks to me, is the Rand Paul school of thought. He does not support discrimination against black people, but civil rights laws should not mandate that businesses that serve the public should be made to serve black people if they don’t want.
Of course, as one commenter pointed out, this would never be said about blacks, Jews, Muslims, women, Christians, etc. However, it remains a fact that it is still “open season” on proposing allowing discriminatory policies against gay people. If people like this ever get their oh-so-too-too liberal heads out of their asses, they will surely be able to breathe some fresher air.
Comment by Gianni — March 31, 2011 @ 11:55 am
If a company discriminates against quality [my emphasis] gay people, it will suffer in the marketplace,…
Whereas if it just discriminates against no-good, crummy gay people, it’ll be Walmart.\snark
Comment by Tehanu — April 2, 2011 @ 11:30 am