Fundamentalists really like the doctrine of hell. Though there is absolutely no evidence for any such thing, and though, in this atheist’s opinion, the idea of a deity sending its own creations to eternal torture is obviously made up, as it is merely a reflection of the worst of human anger and frailty, Fundies cling to it because it gives them license to lord their strange beliefs over everyone else, and it allows them to cloak their irrational prejudices in the language of concern and love. Here’s Matt Barber over at Peter’s Playland [no link], engaging in Pete and Matt’s annual Easter tradition of complaining about the San Francisco ‘Hunky Jesus Contest’:
“While watching this repulsive, Satanic display I was surprised that I didn’t feel outrage – that I wasn’t angry. I felt pity for these poor, lost souls. I felt sorry for them. They were pathetic; sad; empty; foolish. I was embarrassed for them.
“Still, God will not be mocked. As I continued to watch I began to feel fear; not for me, but for them. As they pranced about on stage and the pagan audience reveled in their foolish blasphemy, I thought, ‘These poor souls. Someday they’ll stand before the very Lord they mock to face His judgment.’ In fact, based on the destructive lifestyle they lead, we know that that day will likely come considerably sooner for them than for most. I shudder to think of the literal Hell that awaits them lest they repent, fall to their knees and believe upon Christ Jesus, the Savior of the world; the Master and creator of the universe.
“As Christians we should all pray, as Jesus did, that God ‘forgive them, for they know not what they do.’”
My reaction to the Hunky Jesus Contest is approximately the same as it was last year: “Meh.” The religious pout-rage over it is the usual, as fundies think their beliefs should be above criticism or mocking. It’s obviously a silly, tongue-in-cheek event, some people enjoy it, and no one gets hurt. So, you know, who cares?
But let’s break down Bam Bam’s hateful little whine for a second. He places himself on a pedestal above these people by “pitying” them. There is nothing about Matt Barber that any sane human being would aspire to emulate, so the fact that he’s looking down on them is sad. His labeling of them as “pathetic; sad; empty; foolish” strikes me as projection, since nothing in the video would suggest that the people at the event are any of those things. Perhaps he’s a bit jealous and angry that they seem to be having fun? He then immediately falls onto the Fundie crutch of “God will not be mocked.” Actually, the fundamentalist conception of “god” is mocked all the time, as are other regional deities, and there’s no evidence that any actual deity is bothered by any of this. He then fleshes out the revenge fantasy, with the usual euphemisms: “As they pranced about on stage and the pagan audience reveled in their foolish blasphemy, I thought, ‘These poor souls. Someday they’ll stand before the very Lord they mock to face His judgment.’ In fact, based on the destructive lifestyle they lead, we know that that day will likely come considerably sooner for them than for most. I shudder to think of the literal Hell that awaits them lest they repent, fall to their knees and believe upon Christ Jesus, the Savior of the world; the Master and creator of the universe.”
You see, he may be claiming to feel fear and sadness, but there is absolutely no evidence for his contentions that these people will be sent to any sort of hell, whether literal or poetic. No, these people are out having fun, doing nothing wrong, and Matt knows it. He may even perhaps sense that their lives are more fun than his is. Wingnuts’ criticism of “coastal elites” tends to be tinged with the same kind of thinly veiled jealousy of people who are smarter, more educated, funnier, and more cultured than they are. In order to maintain his very flimsy pedestal, Matt must place himself above these people and express fear and sadness [thinly veiled glee] that, by his estimation, his deity will rise up and destroy these people, if they don’t abandon their authenticity and fulfillment in order to live dull, unfulfilling lives, as Matt and his cohorts do.










How do people like Barber reconcile the image of an infinitely powerful, infinitely WISE God with one whose fee-fees get hurt over a little harmless mockery? You’d think existing millions of years, He’d have acquired a bit more maturity.
Of course it isn’t God who can’t handle mockery, it’s asshats like Barber.
Uh, Matt, honey; why do you as a “straight” man devote so much of your time to such a contest ??? Uh, why aren’t you spending more time with your family, etc.? I haven’t met any “straight” men, who really gave a damn about the hunky jeebus contest; why do you ???
It’s amusing the way they stomp and whine when their little imaginary friend is mocked. “He’ll show you! You won’t get away with this!” Yeah, right.
If an all-powerful God was truly pissed, he would destroy these people on the spot. The fact that he makes them take a ticket and get in line for years before seeking revenge shows that his conception of hell is nonsense.
Finally, Matt is terribly out of shape and could be morbidly obese. That’s his business, of course, but he has a lot of nerve preaching about health standards and life expectancy given his current level of fitness. He also was a boxer which many doctors are now tying to Parkinson’s disease.
In terms of chosen lifestyles, the one adopted by this hypocrite shows that he should be more concerned about his own mortality than that of others.
The chances are, those he is deriding will easily outlive him — even the people living with HIV who take care of their bodies.
Those of us who were offended but the “Hunky Jesus” contest and SANE shrugged our shoulders and ignored it.
“He was also a boxer which many doctors are now tying to Parkinson’s disease” I thought God gave Parkinson’s to Ali because he was a muslim.
Yaaay, Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. *heart*
And, of course, folks are trying to compare it to lulzing at Matthew Sheppard, or saying that it’s just the same as Christian oppression aimed at LGBT people. Because institutionalized advocacy for beating and killing people is just that trivial.
It always disturbs me a little when fundies gleefully bring up Hell, as though they think it’s moral and just that people should be tortured forever because they put on a beard and loincloth (or because they don’t believe the same story, for that matter).
Of course, they do it because it’s their last resort. They can’t argue with reason that cosplaying as Jesus is some kind of immorality, so they threaten with Hell in the hopes of scaring people onto their side, and to give them a vain little pleasure that the mean people who DARE disagree with them will get their “just deserts”. “Oh yeah?! Well, I’m going to Heaven and you’re going to BUUURN! Neener neener neener!”
That we totally deserve. Because we aren’t letting the fundies win by default. Spoiled brats.
“Someday they’ll stand before the very Lord they mock to face His judgment.’ In fact, based on the destructive lifestyle they lead, we know that that day will likely come considerably sooner for them than for most. I shudder to think of the literal Hell that awaits them lest they repent, fall to their knees and believe upon Christ Jesus, the Savior of the world; the Master and creator of the universe.”
Oh, Mattie, you failed again, and I feel sad for you. You pulled out the weapon of last resort – the fear-card – and still, I didn’t fall to my knees trembling in submission. You really need to do better.
If you want to reach those of us who are willing to use our ability to reason, evaluate evidence, and discern facts, you need to present something more compelling than mindless platitudes, and mindlessly accepted quotes from a hodgepodge of ancient writings that contradict themselves. A god with the intelligence and power to create the entire universe could have, and should have, done much better.
Unlike them, I’m sure Christ would have a sense of humor about the entire thing, and when it comes to ‘Hunky Jesus’ no one can beat the late Jeffrey Hunter in King of Kings. Mon Dieu! (no pun intended) ;)
I spent 30+ years serving a god I was afraid of pissing off, second guessing every thought, word, and deed. I lived in a state of constant fear the he/she/it would reject and abandon me and no matter how much I prayed, read the bible, went to church, and associated STRICTLY with other “believers” I never lost that fear.
Six years ago I shattered the shackles and swore to myself, “NO MORE!”
I reject utterly that bronze age hill god, that from what I’ve heard regarding recent archeological research, was actually a Cannonite local diety of acient Middian by the name of YWH.
Not only does the God Bam Bam and his ilk serve lacking a sense of humor, but he also seems to have a seemingly endless need to be flattered. You would think he being an all knowing, powerful God, he’d be a little bit more secure.
Gew, congrats on putting that fearful and subjugating world behind you. :)
Well done Gew.