This is Aaron Barton, a purported “ex-gay,” telling his story. The unedited video is here if you want to see it, but commentary has been added, to rebut every single one of Barton’s “ex-gay” talking points/lies, within the video, so that’s handy. If you know someone who is caught up in the “ex-gay” scam — perhaps you’re coming out of it and still know people on the inside — share this video with them. Here’s part of Matt Algren’s reaction:
I feel bad for Aaron Barton. He’s so sad, so bottled up, so ashamed. Really, this video, and his act of accepting applause for lying about who he is, is a form of mortification. The only difference between him and the medieval monks is that instead of flagellating his flesh, Barton abuses his soul.
Perhaps that’s the only way he can feel.
This is his life, the life he chose instead of standing up to his family’s shame and his church’s bigotry. And for that, I feel pity for Barton.
We do feel bad for people like Aaron. But as Matt points out, at this point Aaron is choosing to harm himself AND OTHERS by spreading this crap. He may be truly brainwashed into believing that what he is saying is true. He may be so terrified of the imaginary hell that people no more informed than he have passed down as a torture myth for generations upon generations. I don’t know. But the blood is still on the hands of any of those who try to pass off these sorts of lies. We already know there’s a bodycount involved. And this being Truth Wins Out, we also know what happens to people who have been through the “ex-gay” wringer.
Look at the screen cap for this video. His eyes look almost dead. That’s what “ex-gay” scams do, as they convince people to repress their very souls and replace all that with code words and catchphrases, talking points and lies. And now, having seen that, hit play and see if the eyes come to life.
My favorite part is just under three minutes in, when he describes how he started to lose his shame over his true self when he finally found people who weren’t pig ignorant bigots like the people who raised him, how he started to feel comfortable in his own skin. The charlatans who have washed his mind of rational thought have somehow helped him turn that story into a negative. Fundamentalist Christianity is such a freaking weird cult.
Aaron: Whenever you need us, whenever you get the point that you simply can’t continue living a lie, whenever you realize that your parents and church don’t have your best interests at heart, but their own, we’ll be here. You can even still be a Christian! There’s an app for that, or maybe Kathy Baldock could help out.
And, in case you missed my favorite quote from the on-screen commentary:
“If God can’t cure little Jessica of leukemia, He’s not going to waste time making me crave vaginas.” That’s a winner right there.
Aside: I am so utterly unsurprised that this happened in Augusta, Georgia. I had the misfortune to live in that city for a year, and I have never been surrounded by so much abject, willful stupidity and bigotry in my life. There are good, decent people there, to be sure, probably enough to fill the outside seating area at well-appointed Starbucks. But the rest of them? Holy crap. However! I also am aware that the most exclusive private high school in Augusta now has a gay/straight alliance. It was started by a straight guy. So there is always hope for future Aaron Bartons, that they might hear the message, even among the most poorly educated, most highly bigoted people in this country, that it can and will get better for them. [Get the hell out of Augusta immediately after graduation.]










Religious groups should be subject to fraud prosecutions just like any other groups.
The sad part here is that he is wrong like many in our community of gays that he can not be a Christian and also gay. Gay people should be able to express themselves within the belief system of whichever spiritual/religious system that they feel fits for them. He has like it has been pointed out been ostracized by his church’s belief system, rejected by their lack of love and true message of the gospel. The institutional church has bought the lie that marginalized groups like the LGBT community are not acceptable to God. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Don, this would be a good place for all of TWO’s Christian gay readers to talk about your faith, because he might see this and need to hear your stories.
[Haha, your atheist writer never suggests this, take the opportunity! LOL]
According to the Bible, there was one special loved one in Jesus’s life and that person was a MAN. As well as we can tell from the Bible, Jesus was probably gay.
I don’t see how anyone who hates gay people can be a Christian, or why they would want to. Bigots go find your own hero; Jesus was one of us.
That barren, depressing, ugly room that they filmed Aaron in was appropriate and very telling. Maybe it was meant to ‘symbolize’ ‘the gay lifestyle’, when in really, it just slams home what it’s really like to try and live as an ‘ex-gay’. I hope Barton comes to his senses before his life is irrevocably ruined.
@Dan…
I think you’re stretching the text a bit, just like fundies do :)
Thanks Evan – but I don’t think so. It’s right there in plain sight in the text. There is some interesting corroborating evidence in church tradition as well.
It’s ok for us to disagree sometimes and still be hot passionate lovers when nobody else is looking ;-)
Dan, the David & Jonathan story has a lot more credibility, I think. Everything I’ve seen on the subject of Jesus being gay has seemed like wishful thinking. Meh. Not a Christian. Don’t care lol
btw the commentary on this video is great. Thanks for posting it Evan.
Some really very poorly informed comments here. This is the truth. God hates the practice of homosexuality. He loves everyone though – he died at Calvary for mankind. Also, don’t be confused by love and lust. Love is explained very clearly in 1 Corinthians 13 but I suspect many readers do not take the bible seriously – at their peril.
@Jeremy, you can’t prove a damn word you say and most of the readers here know the bible far better than you. Kids die because of your teachings. So. You have the moral low ground. Anything else to say? Oh, and please, please, please don’t stand there, as a Fundamentalist, and tell US that we don’t understand love. Fundies love people like pedophiles love children.
Yawn … g’mornin Jeremy, sleep ok?
The bibble is all fairy tales. Prove otherwise. I want proof that is solid and testable. Can you prove it is not just another tome full of Bronze Age mythology? If not, please keep it out of my laws, my life, my bedroom and especially my pants.
Evan, I agre that the text concerning David and Jonathan provides more sexually explicit details – “Jonathan took off his clothes – every last stitch – and they hugged and kissed until David exceeded.” 1 Samuel 20
But sex isn’t all there is to a relationship you know! (sets arms akimbo)
@lol, yeah, Dan, I know. David and Jonathan were totally hot for each other. I’ve always thought it was funny that people could read that text about dude throwing his clothes off and begging his “friend” to stay and NOT see the utter gayness of it all lol
re: fundies love people – yow, that is gonna leave a mark. so true. Love is out there. Everybody have a great day, ‘specially Jeremy <3
truth hurts.
I didn’t watch all of it, but I did skip around and then fast forwarded to the end, where he was standing up at the pulpit next to, I assume, his pastor. I have never seen anyone look so miserable.
These people preach all kinds of garbage against us in the name of Jesus. Well I have news for them. Jesus never once mentioned homosexuality. Or perhaps I should use the term “same sex attraction” because the concept of homosexual orientation was quite unknown in Jesus’s time.
In fact, there is evidence that Jesus actually encountered a gay man. I forget which Gospel it is, but at least one of them tells of Jesus healing the “servant” of a Roman Centurion. The original word in the koine Greek that has come down to us as “servant” was in fact “pais,” which loosely translated means “boy” and in the time of Christ usually bore the context of a sexual relationship, servants as sex objects being common in those days.
Jesus said nothing whatever about the relationship. He simply healed the young man and actually praised the Centurion for his faith.
To all the so-called “Christians” who keep insisting that Jesus condemned gay persons, I say only this: no, He did not. He never even mentioned us. And you cannot insert something into the Scriptures that is not there to begin with just because you wish it were so.
Was Jesus sexually attracted to men, women, both, or neither? The Bible is clear that he was involved with one specfic man – the man who wrote the Gospel of John. (My impression is that that man was Lazarus although that is debatable.)
I see nothing that would suggest he was involved with any particular woman. If Jesus was gay (same-sex attracted), that information would have been heavily censored. If he was straight, it would not have been hidden.
And even so, we have strong indications that he was involved with a man, and not with a woman. Why deny what is right there in print?
And as Scott points out, Jesus never says anything at all in the Bible that is negative about same-sex attraction as opposed to mixed-sex attraction.
Jeremy-don’t cast your cheap, fake pearls amongst us ‘swine’ here. You and yours are the only ones who are really ‘unclean’, and not just your meat. :PP
Jeremy: many of us don’t take the buybull seriously because it is a hodgepodge of writings spanning thousands of years of Bronze Age history written by men with a very specific sociopolitical agenda, with no experience in the scientific method, and therefore minimal interest in EVIDENCE for their claims (crossing the Red Sea, Moses stopping the sun in the sky, talking snakes, turning water into wine, walking on water, blah, blah, blah). But I tell you what Jeremy: I will start paying attention to the bible when you provide some testable & replicable evidence that the claims of it are true. Start with prayer, Jeremy. The bible claims that god answers prayer (“if two of you agree on anything that they ask it shall be done by my father in heaven…” and several other 2nd Testament quotes). Lets find a child with a cleft palate or a person with an amputated leg. Let’s get your whole church together and have every one of them pray humbly and sincerely to god for two months, every day for an hour, asking that the child or the amputee be healed. I mean genuinely restored: cleft palate disappears or amputees leg regrows. No surgeon, no prosthesis. Real healing just like when Jesus walked the earth. Do you know what will happen Jeremy? Yes, deep down you do know what will happen, and that is why even the most fundagelical, bible-believin’ church will NEVER pray for people like the amputee or the child with a congenital birth defect. Because, it doesn’t work! Either god hates amputees and children with cleft palates (because he never answers their prayer & heals them like he heals other people Christians are always claiming get healed (cancer, gays, infections, back pain)), or there is no god who ever does answer any prayer at all. So Jeremy, those of us who are skeptics really don’t have much reason to “take the bible seriously at our peril”. But go ahead, give us some evidence so that we will! We are waiting.
@Jeremy Newbegin: Do you really think that anyone cares what your 2000 year old myth thinks? BWAHAHAHAHAHA Idiot.
The real problem facing these “Christians” whose favorite pastime is pulling Bible verses out of their behinds (and to hell with context) is that the original Scriptures say NOTHING about homosexuality as an orientation. All that are mentioned are specific genital acts, and always, always in the context of rape, control, and the abuse of persons as objects.
In addition to that, most of the English Bibles circulating today are HORRIBLE translations, including that KJV that I was raised with and that the Fundies love so much. For starters, the original translators of the Septuagint did not know what language they were dealing with: they were expecting Classical Greek and instead found themselves with Koine Greek, the language of the man in the street (Greece has always had two very distinct languages: one for ordinary, informal conversation, the other for things like official documents.). The to compound the mischief, this language, which since many had never seen before and thus were flying blind, was translated into LATIN, a language that simply did not have words for much of what appeared in the Greek. People don’t realize that not every language has a word for every thing, which explains why languages borrow from others so often.
At any rate, long story short, the Bible is silent on the question of homosexuality as we know it today. Leviticus is irrelevant to Christians, since Christ did away with the purity laws. As to Paul, 1 Cor 6:9 translates two words, “malakos” and “arsenokoitai,” as “effeminate” and “homosexuals” in many English Bibles, an translation that is insupportable since malakos does not appear in this context in contemporary writings of the period, and arsenokoitai appears to be a word that Paul invented himself, since it appears almost nowhere in any surviving documents of the era.
Proof-texting is a dangerous business: when you yank a Scripture out of its proper place in the Bible and use it as a weapon without any understanding of to whom it was originally addressed and the conditions of the times in which it was written, you are simply using the Bible as a bludgeon to attack people you do not like. And if you believe that every word in the Bible is true (despite the fact that God didn’t write it; flawed men did), you are engaging in bibliolatry and elevating a flawed and inconsistent Book to the same level as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. And as far as I know the Bible says nothing about a “Quadrinity.”
And before anyone jumps all up in my grill, I have been a Christian for more than forty-three years and I have probably forgotten more Bible than most of these Fundies have yet to learn.
I’m with Dan, the character of Jesus is written as gay.
Dan said “If Jesus was gay (same-sex attracted), that information would have been heavily censored.”.
The secret gospel of Mark is proof of this.
Thanks, Evan. I was so hoping you’d post this on TWO. (It’s kind of why I posted it on your FB wall.)
My heart goes out to Aaron and the many LGBT people who have been misled by fundamentalism. The forced smile about two-thirds of the way through the video was chilling, and as Scott observed at #18, he looked miserable in the final scene on stage.
This is what being forced to live a lie and deny one’s true self will do. I hope that someday Aaron can accept himself and find happiness.
Aaron certainly looks depressed. For some reason the first thing that popped into my mind while watching this was a clip that was shown some years ago on a national network with Joseph Nicolosi and some of the “cured” gay people that he had treated. They all had their faces hidden. But when another segment showed gay people who were happy with themselves, they had their faces uncovered and they had big smiles. Why were Nicolosi’s clients so ashamed to show their faces? They were obviously not happy with themselves.
I have always had this question that no one ever brings up to the religious people who espouse the ex-gay cure: why are they so adamant about saying that God will make gay people straight, when Jesus never made anyone straight? There are stories about his healing lots of people with various ailments. But there are no stories about his making anyone who was gay, straight. And he had to have been aware that there were lots of Roman soldiers who had their male lovers. It was commonplace. One wonders why the centurion was so concerned about the male slave who was at death’s door. And one wonders why Jesus cured the slave rather than the centurion if being in love with another man was so sick.
The smile at 7:13 – Aaron, we know ‘fake’ better than anyone. We had years of practice. That is the fakest acting out of a happy face. When your lips bend but the eyes stay frozen like? That’s pain, not happiness.
I visited this site to evaluate the level of objectivity and found nearly none. Instead, this site of so-called truth contains huge dollops of distortion, ego vindication, bias, and blatant ignorance. The emotional motivations appear to be primarily hate and anger, probably fueled by a basic lack of meaning – an extreme existential angst. The defenses and explanations of LBGT philosophy or lifestyle assuredly earn “endangered specie” status and a most bleak survival probability.
Steve-i think your psychiatrist needs to adjust your meds; whatever that rambling nonsense was you scribbled, the only *hate and anger* we ever see here is from the profoundly ignorant right wing religions.
Steve
Please define the LGBT lifestyle.
And by the way, I never got a copy of the homosexual agenda when I came out 27 years ago, yet it seems every right-winger/Christian has seen it. Would you please forward a copy to me?
Thank you
@Scott Amundsen — great post!
Steve, I noticed you never gave any examples of this alleged bias, distortion, and ignorance. There’s a reason for that – if you had given any examples of your allegations we’d have easily used logic and reality to show you’re wrong and we’re right. You were afraid to give examples of your allegations because you know you couldn’t defend your assertions.
Steve is projecting. It’s both a sign of mental illness and standard operating procedure for conservatives.
The time for gratuitous ignorance is past. We do ourselves and our goals an injustice by using the same tactics that fundys do by re-packaging erroneous information to prove a point, thus, relying on the mis-education of the masses to allow them to swallow everything that is said from the pulpit, hook, line and sinker without question. It is not necessary to try to discredit/invalidate Christian teaching or the collection of the books of the Bible, for that matter, to get our points across. Christianity is not our opponent…its the a******s running the show who are. They have absolutely no recourse but to put the stamp of God’s approval on their misguided delusions….a veritable modern-day crusade, as it were. Destroying lives with a smile on their faces – all in the name of God. No, I suggest we just use the ammunition that they so freely provide when debunking their ridiculous teachings. God/god is not the enemy; his/her portrayal by the wicked is.
Stephen said ” It is not necessary to try to discredit/invalidate Christian teaching or the collection of the books of the Bible, for that matter, to get our points across.”.
Yes it is. The most popular christian teaching is that gays deserve to be eternally tortured for their gayness.
@Priya Lynn While it may be “popular” for most “christian” groups to preach that gays deserve to be eternally tortured, there is nothing Christian about it. The true Christ of Christianity is not about these people or these teachings. My point was not all Christians promote hate; and those that call themselves Christian and do promote hate do not represent the sum of all Christians….or Christianity, at all, for that matter. Basically, Christianity is being held hostage by a large number of idiots seeking to speak for all of us. They do not. To believe otherwise is to be short-sighted, albeit well-intentioned. You are giving them far too much credit, I’m afraid.
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