Every single survey done this year has shown that Americans support marriage equality. But the Religious Right doesn’t Do Reality, as their entire worldview is based on fiction of the fantasy genre, so one of their legal arms, the Alliance Defense Fund,* decided to rustle up a survey that made them feel better:
While the New York Senate continues to debate same-sex marriage — and could vote Friday to make the state the sixth to redefine marriage — the Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) has released a survey that shows nearly two-thirds of Americans (62 percent) support marriage solely as the union of one man and one woman.
The scientific survey, sponsored by ADF and completed by Public Opinion Strategies last month, was part of a comprehensive examination of American attitudes toward marriage. In addition to the national survey, the research included 14 focus groups across the country.
Uh huh. This quote will show you exactly how far up their fannies the legal minds of the ADF really are:
“This survey,” he said, “along with the nearly 80 percent win rate in ADF marriage cases, shows the opposition has created an illusion of momentum, but not a real base of support or track record of victory in the courts.”
Real base of support: Every grown-up survey conducted this year on the subject.
Track record in the courts: Uh. Well aside from the fact that the bigots were completely laughed out of court in the Prop 8 trial, every other recent major legal decision on the subject of equality over the past year has gone our way.
I feel bad, in a way, for anti-gay fundamentalists. Their denial of reality and their utter inability to deal with facts are mindblowing. I predict that in ten years when full marriage equality is the law of the land and their views, as I have said before, have been relegated to the status of white supremacists, their arguments on the subject will similarly have been reduced to televised grunts, scratches and the occasional pained whimper. And no one will feel sorry for them.
Oh, by the way, ‘Public Opinion Strategies,’ as a polling outfit, has a really, really crappy record when it comes to both doing good surveys and telling the truth. Hell, just Google their name and click through link after link of reporting about how bad they are at what they do. [A natural fit for the Religious Right, of course.]
*Yes, the same ADF which embarrassed itself to death in the Prop 8 trial.
When God gives people up to a reprobate mind, they no longer see reality. Their personal idols (homophobia in this case) take over and their hearts become hardened. They go into deep denial. The guilt raging in their hearts (because they know in their hearts that homophobia is wrong) leads them to anger and sin. Lying, cheating, adultery, proclaiming gays are “worthy of death”…nothing is out of limits when God removes Himself from their hearts. Their real day of reckoning will come on Judgement Day when Christ tells them, “Depart from me, I never knew you.”
While I might agree with you about denial, I’m truly repulsed by using this scriptural horror and threats of hell to condemn the opposition. Insanity, even when it is meant to be supportive, is still insanity.
Evan wrote,
“I predict that in ten years when full marriage equality is the law of the land and their views, as I have said before, have been relegated to the status of white supremacists, their arguments on the subject will similarly have been reduced to televised grunts, scratches and the occasional pained whimper.”
I further predict that in maybe fifty years, when gays are no longer an issue, Christians will be taking credit for leading the way toward ending society’s persecution of gay people. Christians have a sleazy habit of seizing credit for all things deemed positive, and deflecting responsibility for all things deemed negative.
If gay couples can acquire marriage licenses, I think that this isn’t truly redefining marriage. The essential aspects of two people living in a committed relationship remains the same. It wouldn’t affected or change marriage for any one else. Perhaps I’m being a nitpicker but using that word, redefine, seems wrong. :-)
John, you’re not being a nitpicker at all. The opposition chooses words very carefully to be deliberately deceptive for maximum impact on their gullible audience. Honesty and accuracy are of no concern.
John said “If gay couples can acquire marriage licenses, I think that this isn’t truly redefining marriage. The essential aspects of two people living in a committed relationship remains the same. It wouldn’t affected or change marriage for any one else. Perhaps I’m being a nitpicker but using that word, redefine, seems wrong. :-)”.
I was thinking the same thing when I read this. We’re not talking about redefining marriage, we’re talking about expanding the pool of people who have access to it.
Hell, if we’re talking about “redefining” marriage, marriage has been “redefined” for many years, when it stopped being essentially a contract between two families to pass on their bloodline.
Because marriage no longer means this in the eyes of the general public, there is no point in saying that allowing gays to marry “redefines” marriage – it is still within today’s current definition of marriage, which has less of a legal emphasis on “GIVE ME CHILDREN” and more on “happy couple living together getting benefits for it”.
hahaha, okay Omar. You just keep up your wishful thinking. Every time a gay kid from a fundamentalist home comes out of the closet (which happens a thousand times a day), fundie minds start to change. You can be “hopeful” all you want, but I certainly hope you don’t die “hopeful,” because you will have wasted a sad, pathetic life.