It goes without saying that people like Linda Harvey of Mission America and Gary Glenn, head of the Michigan outpost of the hate group known as the AFA, contribute nothing of value to society. Their words poison the discourse, offend intelligent people and contribute to the climate that causes far too many of our kids to be bullied, and to attempt or complete suicide. So it’s more than a little bit cute that, in a time of high unemployment, these ne’er-do-wells took to the radio to suggest that they somehow know more about hiring decisions than actual corporations which hire people:
Glenn: Herman Miller, which is a major employer and corporation in Holland [Michigan], a furniture company, supported this so-called gay rights ordinance on the claim that it allowed them to attract the best and brightest.
Harvey: Here we go, yeah we heard that before.
Glenn: What ridiculous folly to suggest that only those individuals who engage in homosexual behavior given all of its severe medical consequences constitute the best and the brightest. It’s not really bright to engage in behavior that puts you at dramatically higher risk of mental illness and substance abuse and AIDS and cancer and hepatitis, and according to various sources, premature death. So to suggest that engaging in that type of behavior defines someone as the best and brightest, which seems to be the line coming out of corporate America, is just ridiculous.
Harvey: You’re right. And higher rates of domestic violence and unstable relationships. I would not think of a homosexual person as a good employment risk, I just wouldn’t.
Part of wingnut hatred of gay people [and of all liberals] comes from their very real jealousy at the idea that millions of people around this country live more interesting lives than they do, are happier than they are, and are smarter, more productive and more creative than they are — and that they’ve done all this while rejecting dumb Religious Right notions of patriarchy and the social order. Indeed, it makes them seethe that absolutely no corporation is trying to find ways to attract more fundamentalist Christians under the headline of “best and brightest.” They just hate it.
So instead they spew their usual litany of lies — because they’re liars, of course — partially to make their sheep feel better, but partially also to make themselves feel better. Being gay is not the cause of mental illness or substance abuse or AIDS. All sane, intelligent people know that. Only the truly brainwashed and stupid are susceptible to such silly notions. The only offensive thing here is that the actual scientific study on the subject has shown that it’s precisely people like Linda and Gary, and their accompanying spiteful, pig ignorant worldview, that leads to higher rates of depression in gay youth. There’s even a good bit of data that has shown that people are more likely to put themselves in dangerous situations with drugs and unsafe sex when they don’t have the support of friends, family, church and society. And who keeps that cycle going? Again, people like Gary and Linda.
But they don’t see the blood on their hands. That would require humanity, honesty, self-awareness and integrity, and, well…those things in short supply on the Religious Right, aren’t they?










They are unrepentant a******s.
Unrepentant homophobes are unable to see the damage they are causing. If we wanted to, we could point out dozens of marital, relationship, medical, substance abuse and spousal abuse issues revolving around the heterosexual lifestyle. And so could strident anti-gay activists Harvey and Glenn. But rather than anger heterosexuals and lose a pay check, it’s so much easier to revile (which is a sin) gay people and make money off ruining our lives. May the Holy Spirit move their hearts away from such evil.
Gays are certainly among the best and brightest, although probably not because they are gay. But fundamentalist Christians are certainly among the worst and dimmest because they are fundamentalist Christians. Or maybe they’re fundamentalist Christians because they are the worst and dimmest – it’s the old chicken/egg question.
actually what makes fundamentalist christians such idiots is the fact that they aren’t independent thinkers like me, and look up information for themselves, they just want someone else to do the thinking for them. Like for instance the fundamentalist christians parrot the line that ethanol is too expensive because it has to be obtained from corn or sugar. But the scientists recently discovered an enzyme in termites which turns cellulose, i.e. insoluble fiber into ethanol enabling manufacturers to produce vast quantities of ethanol from switch grass and paper products. And that is just one example of the idiocy of these people.
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Eh, ye olde propaganda machine never stops cranking out manipulations of the facts ‘n figures.
The number one threat to this country and it’s way of life isn’t homosexuals … it’s lazy, misinformed voters who want to be spoonfed information such as this …
Nom, nom, nom … nothing like a hot helping of lies to get me going in the morning!
I’m always astounded by the talk of medical issues concerning gay people. They seem to want us to be str8 so we won’t have to fall prey to these awful consequences. That’s very loving, don’t we think?
Actually, one would figure that the more of us who off ourselves or die of these awful conditions would make them feel satisfied. After all, we’d be disappearing and they didn’t have to do a thing.
Problem is (and they REFUSE to accept this) THEY keep having babies and replenishing our ranks. Of course, far be it from them to acknowledge that they give birth to us.
I think maternity leave and pregnancy care is a bigger expense for company health plans than AIDS.
So now they’re saying gay people shouldn’t even be allowed to have jobs? Is there ANY line they won’t cross? Is there no limit to how much of an a*****e they’ll be?
[...] Wins Out’s blog had an excellent response to Glenn’s failure of brain power, which I would like to quote, [...]
3.Gays are certainly among the best and brightest, although probably not because they are gay. But fundamentalist Christians are certainly among the worst and dimmest because they are fundamentalist Christians. Or maybe they’re fundamentalist Christians because they are the worst and dimmest – it’s the old chicken/egg question.
I would like to see facts backing this statement up.
I for one dont think you can.
Hey Chief (RE #11):
My backup is my 66 years of observation. Fundamentalist Christians (FCs) are among the most delusional, ignorant, and uncreative people on earth. Pretty much everything they think and do is filtered through a belief system formed by rigid religious indoctrination that has wrung out every shred of independent thinking and creativity they might have otherwise had. It’s a belief system that clearly retards human progress. People who believe that everything they need to know is contained in an ancient holy book are not likely to be spending much time discovering new information and exploring new ideas for the betterment of humanity and the earth. So, I don’t think those are “qualities” that most employers are looking for.
And as gays, I didn’t say they ARE the best and brightest, I said they are AMONG the best and brightest. Unlike FCs, gayness does not involve a belief system that profoundly retards thinking and creativity.
Jesus, deliver us from your followers.
Amen.