There has been an ongoing discussion as to whether the clinic of Marcus Bachmann, the husband of presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), practices “reparative therapy,” the discredited technique that aims to turn gay people into heterosexuals. When asked, Marcus Bachmann said that his clinic did not take part in such therapy. According to a June 15th article in The Daily Beast:
In November 2005, Marcus Bachmann delivered a presentation called “The Truth About the Homosexual Agenda” at the Minnesota Pastors’ Summit. According to a gay activist who attended and spoke to the City Pages, Bachmann’s presentation ended with testimony from three people who claimed they’d been gay and had been “cured” and become straight. “If someone is interested in talking to us about their homosexuality, we are open to talking about that,” he told the newspaper. “But if someone comes in a homosexual and they want to stay a homosexual, I don’t have a problem with that.”
During a week-long Truth Wins Out undercover investigation inside Bachmann & Associates, Truth Wins Out discovered that the clinic actually does practice textbook “reparative therapy.” With two hidden cameras in tow, TWO’s Director of Communications and Development, John Becker, attended five private sessions with Bachmann & Associates counselor Timothy Wiertzema, MA LMFT.
The explicit goal of the sessions was transforming Becker from homosexual to heterosexual. To his credit, the counselor did not promise that change would be instantaneous or even complete. However, he did explicitly promise that sexual conversion could occur as a result of prayer and therapy at the clinic.
Undoubtedly, people will want to know what criteria Truth Wins Out used to define “reparative therapy”? Here are six indicators that taken together leave no doubt that Bachmann & Associates engages in this discredited practice:
1) False promise of healing: During the sessions, Wiertzema claimed that it was possible to change from gay to straight through prayer and therapy. During the third session Wiertzema said, “…it’s possible to be totally free of [same-sex attraction]. For sure.” and that “It’s happened! It really has happened to people.” In the fifth session, Wiertzema says, “…obviously your goal is not to have any feelings of attraction for men…And I really am going to recommend that we start working on how you can develop your attractions towards women.” This contradicts the advice of every respected medical and mental health organization that claims that the efficacy of such therapy is unproven and is often harmful.
2) Homosexuality portrayed as unnatural: At no time during the therapy was homosexuality portrayed as a natural variation of human sexuality. It was portrayed as a treatable condition at odds with a normal and healthy sexual orientation. Becker was told by Wiertzema that, “God designed our eyes to be attracted to the woman’s body, to be attracted to everything, to be attracted to her breasts.” Furthermore, according to Timothy, “We’re all heterosexuals, but we have different challenges.” Attraction to the same sex “is there, and it’s real, but at the core value, in terms of how God created us, we’re all heterosexual.”
This faulty reasoning parroted the words of Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, the co-founder of the “ex-gay” organization The National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH): “There is no such thing as a homosexual, just heterosexuals with a homosexual problem.”
3) The risks of reparative therapy downplayed: Becker was never told that every professional medical and mental health association rejects “ex-gay” therapy including the American Medical Association, American Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association, and the American Counseling Association, or that the treatment he was seeking was totally unsupported by research. He was never informed about possible alternative treatment options such as gay-affirmative therapy. Nobody ever told Becker about the potential for harmful side effects like depression and suicidal thoughts. And although he was asked to sign a treatment plan outlining his problem, desired outcome, and treatment strategy, he was never given nor asked to sign any kind of informed consent document that disclosed the above information about “ex-gay” therapy. As such, we believe Bachmann & Associates to be practicing unethically, even by the standards of the American Association of Christian Counselors. This is particularly disconcerting given the fact that Marcus Bachmann’s clinic has received significant funding from the State of Minnesota and the federal government.
4) Homosexuality blamed on environment: At no point during the therapy did Wiertzema say that homosexuality might be caused by genetic or biological factors. Instead, he put forth the classic reparative therapy idea that being gay was environmental. Specifically, he relied on the discredited idea that homosexuality could be the result of neglect, abuse, trauma or poor parenting.
As a result, Wiertzema went on a fishing expedition looking for possible reasons that Becker turned gay.
5) Accountability Partner: During the sessions, the counselor urged Becker to find a heterosexual “accountability partner.” Christians use accountability partners for a number of issues, not just homosexuality. However, such partners are a key part of reparative therapy. The theory is that non-sexual same-sex friendships will demystify the same sex. As a result, the struggling gay person will no longer see the same sex as mysterious and alluring. Once this occurs, feelings for the opposite sex will supposedly develop.
6) Focus on developing masculinity: During session 5, Wiertzema advised Becker to “further develop your own sense of masculinity.” Reparative therapy reinforces strict gender roles and works to erase outward appearances of femininity in men and masculinity in women. Because these programs do not genuinely change sexual orientation, much focus is placed on changing behavior so an individual can “pass” as heterosexual, even if the gay person has not changed on the inside.
The totality of the evidence incontrovertibly proves that Bachmann & Associates, contrary to Marcus’ denials, does practice reparative therapy.










Holy cow this is huge! I am hoping we will get to see some of the footage of those cameras. Thank you TWO!
Good investigative reporting. Now what do you do with the results? Do you out Bachmann on his wife’s FB page. Do you post this article on gov’t FB pages or email this to them? Do you send this to the American Association of Christian Counselors or other licensing agencies?
Number 5 does not work…being a person who went through reparative therapy which did not work…”my accountability partner” was just a partner in sex…by law the counseling center to divulge to the client what the risks are and by not they can be sued…being a former believer in religion…I still don’t get why would “god” make some have a struggle with being gay..it just doesn’t make any sense in the world of logic…go figure
did you see this article about your article questioning the methods used by the undercover reporter? http://www.thenation.com/article/161883/%E2%80%98god-has-created-you-heterosexuality%E2%80%99-clinics-owned-michele-bachmann%E2%80%99s-husband-practi#.ThetOH65meE.facebook
[...] ex-gay therapy. John Becker, Truth Wins Out’s Director of Communications and Development, attended five private sessions with Bachmann & Associates counselor Timothy Wiertzema: During the sessions, Wiertzema claimed that it was possible to change from gay to straight through [...]
I believe it’s unethical to not divulge the risks of “ex-gay” “therapy” and the fact that all major mental health and medical organizations say it doesn’t work. At the very least, those promoting this fraud should be required to provide each client with this information. When is someone going to sue one of these groups for fraud and malpractice?
Please allow this reporter to congratulate you on your expose. Well done.
So this is what he bills Medicaid for…while his wife rails on about “the evils of big government”. And of course then she goes and cashes the check for the farm subsidy. These are not good people.
Roland — What do you expect from hypocrites like the Bachmanns? But of course, their teabagger drones will downplay it as typical “liberal media” tactics trying to destroy a saintly and godly couple.
[...] Why Truth Wins Out Concluded That Marcus Bachmann’s Clinic Engages in ‘Ex-Gay’ Therapy (9) [...]
Yes! I knew you guys would come through. I’m going to call my congresswoman and ask for a bill to end all state funding of this garbage.
[...] and the other by Wayne Besen explaining why the group undertook the investigation and why they have “concluded that That Marcus Bachmann’s Clinic Engages in ‘Ex-Gay’ Therapy.” According to the website, TWO is a “nonprofit organization that fights anti-gay religious [...]
We should kick this hypocrite out of the presidential race. Not only a hypocrite, but a liar, denying the clinic’s gay therapy teachings which have now been proven through film and verbiage.
As a straight person, I have no problem with gays or any other child of God. I do have a problem with persons who talk out of both sides of the mouth, railing against government, and then loving their Medicaid payments for their false teachings and false advertising.
Lets see, their are many, many shrinks in the world that treat people to change their bad behavior and sometimes it works, sometimes not. Religion, same thing, sometimes people find religion and it changes and improves their behavior and sense of morality. Pres Bush for example…
This clinic is trying to do exactly that. I can’t even find the denials that this is what they are trying to do or that doing it is illegal.
Hardly compares to Acorn scandal of young girl Aaprostitution. Gay sex are immoral, not as bad as a child molester or say old men marrying teen age girls like some mormons and muslims do in forced marriages. But right up their.
Behaviour can be changed-that is what an organized society is all about and separates us from animals.
Bill; and who gets to say what is “immoral,” anyway? What if I don’t ascribe to those social rules (and I don’t, by the way)
Also, as much as people like to discount it, we ARE animals…H. sapiens is under the kingdom “Animalia”…
Billyray, the fact is gay sex is not “bad behavior,” and is not immoral. If you don’t like gay sex, then don’t have any. See how easy that is? But I guess it’s not really that easy for you because you are apparently a busybody who feels entitled to meddle in everyone else life. For people like you, MY job is to live MY life to please YOU.
My behavior has no negative effect on anyone, so it is not immoral. But it IS immoral for society to demand that millions of people live unfulfilled loveless lives just because busybodies like you don’t approve.
Why don’t you stop being so silly, and grow up and get some education.
Billyray, when you’re wrong you’re really wrong. You really should find out the truth about the Acorn “scandal”–like the fact that all the Acorn employees alerted the police after that b.s. conman tried to scam them–you didn’t hear that on Fox News, but then you probably didn’t take much time to educate yourself.
Daniel,
That’s interesting. I never heard that all of the Acorn employees contacted the police. Are you certain that is true? Where is a link to that information?
Jack,
http://mediamatters.org/research/200909170031
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/politics/PoliceACORN-Employee-Reported-Alleged-Smuggling.html
Here are two, there were many more but you can google as easily as I can. It was also reported on Rachel Maddow in depth but by the time it was reported the damage was already done. Fox News never corrected their false reporting.
Daniel,
I don’t see where ALL of the Acorn employees caught in the tapes alerted the police. It sounds like maybe a few did. The San Diego guy sounds like he may have done so after he figured out it was a ruse.
I don’t need to google. If you are going to make the assertion ALL instead of SOME, the burden is on you to prove it.
I watched your so called “Gottcha Video on the Ed show”, and I found it repugnant, as I find most in the liberal progressive party, Michelle and her Husband have raised a Huge family quite well, they have operated within US Law, and You guys playing this Acorn payback Gottcha Politics only make you the fools, I saw nothing in your video that in anyway implicated the Bachmanns nor did I see the interview anything more than a discussion, and once again let me say this whole deal shows what a small handful of liberal progressive Extremist will go to , so they can keep steering this Nation into the Toilet, and lert me also say that you folks this next election will be rendered to Insignifigant status……just where the 20% of you belong.
Jack. I don’t think I made any assertions that all of anyone did anything. And if you are too lazy to google you’re too lazy not to believe what you want to. You’re first paragraph made assertions that were completely made up so I don’t have a lot of faith in your intuitive skills.
We should point out that no Acorn were convicted or even accused of anything in this matter. The two who were convicted were turned in by Acorn. Whereas O’keefe’s been shown to be fraudulent several times. But you don’t care about that because it would mess with your preconcieved Fox fed beliefs.
11. yet you’ll want to continue programs of asking 12 yeaolds if they have engaged in oral sex ?, and you ask yourself why you, and those who think like you are in a 20% or less bracket ?……you would.
http://mediamatters.org/research/200909220026
Another–even that lying bimbo Megan Kelly said “some” Acorn employees did the right thing.
Chief Cabioch, I checked out your blog. You’re a kook.
Sorry, I did say all. I guess I was mistated.
this is NOT a comparison of actions between Acorn and the clinic, 18 people from Acorn were found Guilty of Vote fraud and here is a list of their activities….Justify trhese will you ?, then try comparing what a Nice couple has done raising 20+ foster kids……
Recent Acorn Fraud Statistics
State Year Details
AR 1998 A contractor with ACORN-affiliated Project Vote was arrested for falsifying about 400 voter registration cards.
CO 2005 Two ex-ACORN employees were convicted in Denver of perjury for submitting false voter registrations.
2004 An ACORN employee admitted to forging signatures and registering three of her friends to vote 40 times.
CT 2008 The New York Post reported that ACORN submitted a voter registration card for a 7-year-old Bridgeport girl. Another 8,000 cards from the same city will be scrutinized for possible fraud.
FL 2009 In September, 11 ACORN workers were accused of forging voter registration applications in Miami-Dade County during the last election. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the state attorney’s office scoured hundreds of suspicious applications provided by ACORN and found 197 of 260 contained personal ID information that did not match any living person.
2008 Election officials in Brevard County have given prosecutors more than 23 suspect registrations from ACORN. The state’s Division of Elections is also investigating complaints in Orange and Broward Counties.
2004 A Florida Department of Law Enforcement spokesman said ACORN was “singled out” among suspected voter registration groups for a 2004 wage initiative because it was “the common thread” in the agency’s fraud investigations.
IN 2008 Election officials in Indiana have thrown out more than 4,000 ACORN-submitted voter registrations after finding they had identical handwriting and included the names of many deceased Indianans, and even the name of a fast food restaurant.
MI 2008 Clerks in Detroit found a “sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent [voter] applications” from the Michigan branch of ACORN. Those applications have been turned over to the U.S. Attorney’s office for investigation.
2004 The Detroit Free Press reported that “overzealous or unscrupulous campaign workers in several Michigan counties are under investigation for voter-registration fraud, suspected of attempting to register nonexistent people or forging applications for already-registered voters.” ACORN-affiliate Project Vote was one of two groups suspected of turning in the documents.
MO 2008 Nearly 400 ACORN-submitted registrations in Kansas City have been rejected due to duplication or fake information.
2007 Four ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City for charges including identity theft and filing false registrations during the 2006 election.
2006 Eight ACORN employees in St. Louis were indicted on federal election fraud charges. Each of the eight faces up to five years in prison for forging signatures and submitting false information.
2003 Of 5,379 voter registration cards ACORN submitted in St. Louis, only 2,013 of those appeared to be valid. At least 1,000 are believed to be attempts to register voters illegally.
MN 2004 During a traffic stop, police found more than 300 voter registration cards in the trunk of a former ACORN employee, who had violated a legal requirements that registration cards be submitted to the Secretary of State within 10 days of being filled out and signed.
NC 2008 County elections officials have sent suspicious voter registration applications to the state Board of Elections. Many of the applications had similar or identical names, but with different addresses or dates of birth.
2004 North Carolina officials investigated ACORN for submitting fake voter registration cards.
NM 2008 Prosecutors are investigating more than 1,100 ACORN-submitted voter registration cards after a county clerk found them to be fraudulent. Many of the cards included duplicate names and slightly altered personal information.
2005 Four ACORN employees submitted as many as 3,000 potentially fraudulent signatures on the group’s Albuquerque ballot initiative. A local sheriff added: “It’s safe to say the forgery was widespread.”
2004 An ACORN employee registered a 13-year-old boy to vote. Citing this and other examples, New Mexico State Representative Joe Thompson stated that ACORN was “manufacturing voters” throughout New Mexico.
NV 2009 Nevada authorities indicted ACORN on 26 counts of voter registration fraud and 13 counts of illegally compensating canvassers. ACORN provided a bonus compensation program called “Blackjack” or “21+” for any canvasser who registered more than 20 voters per shift, which is illegal under Nevada law.
2008 Nevada state authorities raided ACORN’s Las Vegas headquarters as part of a task force investigation of election fraud. Fraudulent registrations included players from the Dallas Cowboys.
OH 2008 ACORN activists gave Ohio residents cash and cigarettes in exchange for filling out voter registration card, according to the New York Post. Some voters claim to have registered dozens of times, and one man says he signed up on 72 cards.
2007 A man in Reynoldsburg was indicted on two felony counts of illegal voting and false registration, after being registered by ACORN to vote in two separate counties.
2004 A grand jury indicted a Columbus ACORN worker for submitting a false signature and false voter registration form. In Franklin County, two ACORN workers submitted what the director of the board of election supervisors called “blatantly false” forms. In Cuyahoga County, ACORN and its affiliate Project Vote submitted registration cards that had the highest rate of errors for any voter registration group.
PA 2009 Seven ACORN workers in the Pittsburgh area were indicted for submitting falsified voter registration forms. Six of the seven were also indicted for registering voters under an illegal quota system.
2008 State election officials have thrown out 57,435 voter registrations, the majority of which were submitted by ACORN. The registrations were thrown out after officials found “clearly fraudulent” signatures, vacant lots listed as addresses, and other signs of fraud.
2008 An ACORN employee in West Reading, PA, was sentenced to up to 23 months in prison for identity theft and tampering with records. A second ACORN worker pleaded not guilty to the same charges and is free on $10,000 bail.
2004 Reading’s Director of Elections received calls from numerous individuals complaining that ACORN employees deliberately put inaccurate information on their voter registration forms. The Berks County director of elections said voter fraud was “absolutely out of hand,” and added: “Not only do we have unintentional duplication of voter registration but we have blatant duplicate voter registrations.” The Berks County deputy director of elections added that ACORN was under investigation by the Department of Justice.
TX 2008 In Harris County, nearly 10,000 ACORN-submitted registrations were found to be invalid, including many with clearly fraudulent addresses or other personal information.
2008 ACORN turned in the voter registration form of David Young, who told reporters “The signature is not my signature. It’s not even close.” His social security number and date of birth were also incorrect.
VA 2005 In 2005, the Virginia State Board of Elections admonished Project Vote and ACORN for turning in a significant number of faulty voter registrations. An audit revealed that 83% of sampled registrations that were rejected for carrying false or questionable information were submitted by Project Vote. Many of these registrations carried social security numbers that exist for other people, listed non-existent or commercial addresses, or were for convicted felons in violation of state and federal election law.
In a letter to ACORN, the State Board of Elections reported that 56% of the voter registration applications ACORN turned in were ineligible. Further, a full 35% were not submitted in a timely manner, as required by law. The State Board of Elections also commented on what appeared to be evidence of intentional voter fraud. “Additionally,” they wrote, “information appears to have been altered on some applications where information given by the applicant in one color ink has been scratched through and re-entered in another color ink. Any alteration of a voter registration application is a Class 5 Felony in accordance with § 24.2-1009 of the Code of Virginia.”
WA 2007 Three ACORN employees pleaded guilty, and four more were charged, in the worst case of voter registration fraud in Washington state history. More than 2,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted by the group during a voter registration drive.
WI 2008 At least 33,000 ACORN-submitted registrations in Milwaukee have been called into question after it was found that the organizations had been using felons as registration workers, in violation of state election rules. Two people involved in the ongoing Wisconsin voter fraud investigation have been charged with felonies.
2004 The district attorney’s office investigated seven voter registration applications Project Vote employees filed in the names of people who said the group never contacted them. Former Project Vote employee Robert Marquise Blakely told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that he had not met with any of the people whose voter registration applications he signed, “an apparent violation of state law,” according to the paper.
Daniel, I so what do you take issue with on my blog ?, what isnt accurate, and why should I care about you or your opinion of me again?
BTW, Chief? You would hate to hear this, but on average, many kids around 12 years old are going through puberty and they’re figuring themselves out right quickly…and that includes oral pleasuring and experimentation…
Just because you want to take righteous umbrage at something, others might enjoy it, and I’d rather have kids doing oral sex than penetrative, if push came to shove…though, yes, there are risks involved; however, you’re not gonna get pregnant from a BJ, so that’s one reason that it should be more acceptable than a lot of YOU people make it…
And also, then, to use your own words, why should WE worry about YOUR opinion of us and how we’ll be “insignificant by the time of the next election, where we belong”?
cody, yes, 12 year lds thanks to the left are aware at a much earlier age they are sexual beings, and making them aware with all the baggage that goes with it should make You and those like you proud you have undermind parents who do NOT want that crap instilled in children to young to handle that responsibility……yada yada yada ….get a life
and that is why the REAL Change is coming to our schools and this Government, the Far left 20% have had their rein of terror…..now we will reverse it….and you and your kind are “STILL” a minority…..get it ?
1) False promise of healing: During the sessions, Wiertzema claimed that it was possible to change from gay to straight through prayer and therapy. During the third session Wiertzema said, “…it’s possible to be totally free of [same-sex attraction]. For sure.” and that “It’s happened! It really has happened to people.” In the fifth session, Wiertzema says, “…obviously your goal is not to have any feelings of attraction for men…And I really am going to recommend that we start working on how you can develop your attractions towards women.” This contradicts the advice of every respected medical and mental health organization that claims that the efficacy of such therapy is unproven and is often harmful.
if only one was converted, then your wrong……
Uh, no? So if one person was healed with a cancer treatment that killed off all the other persons that it was administered to (or, had a much higher rate of deleterious outcomes than helpful ones), we’d be wrong for saying it’s harmful?
[...] to a related investigation by Truth Wins Out, Bachmann practices ex-gay therapy, where he and his associates attempt to turn gay men straight. [...]
Please provide evidence that Bachmann has denied counseling patients on unwanted SSA. There is none.
TWO is a fraud.
[...] This is the same kind of snake oil hogwash sold by people like presidential candidate Michelle Bachmann and her husband Marcus. [...]
[...] of five treatments he was counseled that he could change his sexuality. Counselor Timothy Wiertzema told Becker: “…it’s possible to be totally free of [same-sex attraction]. For sure.” and that “It’s [...]
[...] the Minneapolis area who is currently the top Republican campaigner for the 2012 Presidential race. Mr. Bachmann runs a clinic where unhappy gays go to recieve reparative (conversion) therapy. The irony here is that the actor who played Otho – Glenn Shadix – was openly gay and [...]
[...] campaign. After TWO’s John Becker, who went undercover, had enough videotape evidence to prove that “ex-gay” therapy occurred at Bachmann’s clinic, he called the clinic and cancelled his [...]