If I’m what Mission America priestess of hatred Linda Harvey considers evil, I don’t want to be good. Linda Harvey brought a woman who almost equals her in unbridled, unreasonable, unmitigated, dishonest hatred, Laurie Higgins of the Illinois Family Institute hate group, onto the radio with her for the purpose of wah wah wah:
Higgins: Homosexual activists are deceptive in terms of concealing information. They know full well that Queer Theory, which emerges from the homosexual community, says homosexuality is not fixed, it’s not hereditary, and it’s mutable, and it’s flexible, particularly among women. So not only can they not marshal in the evidence to prove the ‘born that way’ theory there’s a lot of at least anecdotal evidence to suggest it’s not fixed and it’s not immutable and certainly there’s no genetic or biological research proving that they are ‘born that way.’ So they’re not even honest about that, they know what I’ve just said. The problem is, the mainstream public doesn’t know.
Harvey: Well and the mainstream, homosexual person on the internet who believes these evil bloggers, they are evil, these people are evil and they are purposefully deceptive. I get my comments edited all the time. These folks will believe a smidgen here and a smidgen there and think, ‘oh it’s been settled,’ it hasn’t been settled, check it out! That science is not at all settled and in fact there’s tons of evidence that people are not born that way.
A numbered list because these women don’t deserve prose:
1. Queer theory isn’t mainstream even among the mainstream gay community. Though it has interesting things to say, this writer finds a lot of it tedious and just plain wrong. Unlike fundamentalist Christians, though, gays are not a borg of groupthink, and rather feel free to argue with one another. However, it should be pointed out that Queer Theory is a very different thing from SCIENCE (!!!!), which does, yes, tend to state that homosexuality is not a choice, that it’s hereditary and that efforts to change it through outside means are ineffective and often harmful. The fact that women’s sexuality is often more fluid than men’s is in no way an argument for Linda & Laurence’s belief that homosexuality is eeeeeeeeeeevil and must be stopped. Only the truly stupid would make that connection in their heads.
2. Oh, we are so evil, making fun of you and trying to stop you from driving your own children to suicide, like you all do on a regular basis. As I’ve said before, pig ignorant bigotry is one of the only forms of “trickle-down” that actually works, and the blood on the hands crusts over thickest at the top.
3. Neither one of you has ever had your comments edited here. Indeed, one major difference between the religious right and the eeeeeeeeeeeevil (boo!) gay bloggers is that we have open comments sections, because we know that our ideological opponents are so phenomenally intellectually unequipped to handle reasoned argument that they will make fools of themselves all on their own. Moreover, we quote you people directly in our own posts, all the freaking time, and just let you damn yourselves with your own words. Why would we censor people who accidentally help our side of the culture wars with their vicious uninformed nonsense?
- “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake” -Napoleon
So were Harvey and Higgins ‘born that way’ as stupid, ignorant and hateful or is their wanted same-sex hating distraction ‘mutable’? And all they really need is conversion therapy and prayer to undo whatever their parents did to totally f**k them up.
Once again, shrill anti-gay activists show that they have no concept of bisexuality.
@Gary
I like to hope that they were not born that way and with some good old “pray away the hate for the gay” therapy, they could become normal members of the “reality-based community”. Is that kind of therapy recognized by the APA, etc?
Gary, I’m afraid they likely were “born that way” in the sense that their intellectual incapacity for ambiguity and nuance is likely hardwired: they appear to be very concrete thinkers and it is difficult to use analogy and reason with such people. As to their being hateful, that is certainly their lifestyle choice, though I think their incapacity to be introspective & self-examining is likely associated with the aforementioned intellectual hardwiring.
Paul, I think you may be correct in saying “their intellectual incapacity for ambiguity and nuance is likely hardwired” although I wonder if it may be more of an emotional deficiency than an intellectual incapacity.
These people (religious fundamentalists) seem to be compulsive certainty-seekers. A lack of certainty on any issue seems to cause them frightening levels of anxiety, so they avoid such uncertainty at all costs. One large part of their anxiety avoidance behavior is to always accept things the way they believe they have always been, because to do otherwise requires evaluating alternative options, and then, oops, there’s that frightening anxiety again.
It’s easy to see how fundamentalist religion would be a godsend (pub intended) for people hardwired with this emotional deficiency. It’s a no-brainer for them – literally. While one might expect that the contradictions contained in holy books would present an inconvenient problem for compulsive certainty-seekers, there are always plenty of clever self-appointed religious gurus to explain what it all really means. There is just nothing else that comes close to religion for the ability to provide anxiety-relief, peace, and comfort for the compulsive certainty-seeker.
For these people, the most frightening phrase in the English language is “I don’t know.”
Should be “pun intended”
If you think Harvey and Higgins are hate-filled, you should ‘meet’ Devvy Kidd at NewsWithViews.com. Today she wrote “Wait Gunny – I Have to Change My Diaper’. Here are a few tidbits:
“On Sept. 20, 2011, the final nail in the coffin to destroy our military was shoved in America’s face. Male sexual deviants will now openly flaunt their preference for bowel movement sex.”
“If people could see how hateful & vulgar sexual deviants are when you disagree with them, what do you suppose is going to happen now that sodomites will be out in the open in the military? Think pay back.”
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd510htm
This woman is SO hatefilled yet when I emailed her to ask her where her hatred came from, she actually denied that she hated us & was merely concerned with ‘sexual deviants’ spreading HIV in the military. She’s a female Porno Pete!
Devin:
She really is the female Porno Pete. She even gives the requisite “warning” about graphic images.
Extremely sick and twisted individual who distorts facts and outright lies. She she is so unprofessional and such an amateur that she quotes hate group leader Scott Lively as an authoritative source.
She throws that word “evil” around a lot. All that “evil” among gay bloggers. Hey, Linda, gay people are just like you guys, some are know-nothings with big mouths and don’t know jack-squat about what they say and print. JUST LIKE YOU AND SOME OF YOURS, Missy Evil. You are the worst sort of commentator. Nothing you said here has of any sort of credibility. Evil? Think about how you denigrate us next time you are spouting off like Old Faithful.
…flaunt their preference for bowel movement sex.” … WHO’S “hateful & vulgar”? What a sick, twisted, gross perv she is. Does this gutter snipe know that heteros have anal sex also and many gay men are ‘oral only’. When I think of heterosexual sex, I never think of ‘bloody uterus’ sex. Devvy is full of s**t and assumes that the rest of us are too.
I would like to explain what people refer to as “The Gospel” or “Good News”. In this explanation, I will discuss God’s grace, which unfortunately so many people do not understand or have never been clearly explained.
Unfortunately, many people attend a Christian church regularly (or attended one in the past) but have never been clearly taught what the Bible stresses as the most important decision that one could ever make. It is only in making this decision that one actually becomes one of God’s children and is “saved” from His eternal judgment. This decision deals with what is referred to as “The Gospel”. If you have never heard “The Gospel” before, here it is. Around 33 AD, Jesus Christ, who is God incarnate, paid the price for every single person’s sin in history by dying the death of crucifixion at the hands of the Romans. He willingly died for every person’s sin that has ever lived and every will live. That includes both you and me. He willing died a death that we deserve for our moral failures in life. Jesus was brutally beaten, whipped, mocked, spit upon, nailed to a wooden cross, and then died. Three days later, He rose from the dead, as He foretold His disciples (group of followers). Jesus then ascended into heaven forty days later. He currently lives with God, His father, in heaven today. During Old Testament times (times prior to the birth of Jesus Christ – B.C.), people had a keen awareness of their moral guilt, as any honest person still does today. I know that I have wronged many people and have felt a deep-seated guilt within many areas of my life. Many people during Old Testament times sacrificed animals to God as a form of limited atonement for their immoral actions. God often accepted these sacrifices, but only in a temporary and limited way. Over time, God changed this extremely limited form of atonement, as He had planned from the very beginning of time. Moreover, God sent His one and only son Jesus Christ down to the Earth. Since Jesus was both sinless and blameless, He willingly died on the cross as an unlimited atonement. It was in God’s will for His son to die in this way. This unlimited atonement is available to any person who whole-heartedly repents of their sins (moral failures) and then asks God to personally apply Jesus’ undeserved death and resurrection as a payment for their sins. It is imperative here that one believes the crucifixion of Jesus Christ was ultimately an act of God’s grace. God did not have to offer an escape from our moral guilt and eternal punishment. However, God is gracious. He has a compassion and love for people that is indescribable. God wants to “wipe the slate” clean for us, in regards to our moral failures. Through this action, we could then enter a personal relationship with His son Jesus Christ and escape his eternal judgment. The Bible refers to moral failures as ‘sin’, or missing the mark of God’s perfect standard of morality. “Sin” is an ancient archery term for an arrow that missed the target. God is loving in the purest sense of the word and would like to grant us victory over the sins that still haunt us from our past. All we have to do is accept this gift of grace from Him. It is free.
God promises us a way to become morally blameless and gain entrance into heaven after living our physical live here on Earth. Here is what we must willingly do on our part. First off, we must truly believe that God is gracious and extended His grace by allowing His one and only son to die as a ransom for our sins on the cross. We must admit to God that we have failed morally during our lifetime and that Jesus Christ’s brutal death on the cross is the only sacrifice that could ever forgive our sins. After making this decision (accepting God’s grace), we are immediately forgiven of all past, present, and future sins. In addition, we would be guaranteed entrance into heaven after our physical death here on Earth. We would then live with both God and His son Jesus forever. We would be guaranteed to see all of our loved ones who had made this decision during his or her physical lives on Earth.
You could make this decision today. Please do not wait for the “perfect time”. You could ask God for eternal forgiveness through applying the death and resurrection of Jesus to your life within the quietness of your bedroom tonight. This is the most important decision that you will ever make.
So you might be asking, “Where in the Bible does it explain what has just been summarized?” Here are some passages clearly stating that Jesus seeks a personal relationship with us:
“that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
– Romans 10:9-10
“Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord; “
- Acts 3:19
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.”
– John 3:16
As long as you repent of your past sins (moral failures) from the heart, confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and apply Jesus Christ’s death and resurrection on the cross as a payment for your sins, you are guaranteed eternal life with God in heaven. You can make this decision at any time, anywhere. You can make this decision alone with God or within a group setting.
Please know that one cannot sit the fence on making this decision of accepting God’s gift of grace. If one chooses not to decide, he or she has still made a choice. This would be like receiving a check (hearing “The Gospel”) but never endorsing and cashing it in at the bank (personally applying Jesus’ death on the cross and resurrection towards one’s sins).
“He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”
- John 3:18
The result of not choosing to accept Gods gift of grace, which offers eternal life with both Him and Jesus in heaven is clear. You will live the remainder of your life here on Earth apart from Jesus Christ and His empowerment. You will then follow your life plan and not His plan for you. After you physically die, you will then be brought to a dark place where there is “weeping and gnashing of teeth”. It is a place of eternal regret. Here, you will remember this very letter and how you were told the truth but chose not to repent and begin a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Remember, if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. You could be diagnosed with a terminal illness tomorrow or be the recipient of a head-on collision while returning home on that all too familiar, two-lane highway this Friday night. If you are considering starting your personal relationship with Jesus Christ, please do not wait to make this decision. You never know what tomorrow will bring.
The following passage outlines the only requirements Jesus Christ has set to both gain eternal life and begin a personal relationship with Him while you are still alive here on Earth. He makes it crystal-clear in the Bible what is required…
“that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
– Romans 10:9-10
God has a plan for your life. You can watch this plan unfold once you accept His gift of grace. This great plan involves your life experience while here on Earth and continues after your physical death on into heaven.
“For I know the plans that I have for you”, declares the Lord, “plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope. Then you will call upon Me and come and pray to Me, and I will listen to you. You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart.”
- Jeremiah 29:11-13
Please consider what I have said here. I am not sure if you have ever made this decision before, but I needed to make sure that you had the facts. If you should decide that you want to learn more about the life of Jesus and gain a better understanding of authentic Christianity, I strongly recommend reading the book of John within the Bible (NASB or NIV translation).
In closing, here is a verse that someone once shared with me that finally brought me into a relationship with God during an extremely low point physically and emotionally. The understanding of Jesus’ desire to know me personally changed my life forever. Here it is:
“Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.”
- Revelation 3:20
gosh. i never heard any of that before.
snoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooze.
Allen, if you rob a bank and I have someone whip me and I claim I am taking your punishment, does that absolve you of guilt?
Of course not. Punishing an innocent person never absolves the guilty one of guilt.
Also, overlooking the above problem, if Jesus absolves us all of guilt, why does your god threaten us with eternal torture anyway? It seems Jesus hasn’t absolved us of our sins.
Allen, clearly you haven’t read the bible. In the old testament god commands that his people perform animal sacrifices and says this is a covenant between him and them FOR ALL TIME.
Allen, what part of FOREVER, don’t you understand?
Expanding on that, Priya,
Jesus died for our sins.
But not believing in Jesus is a sin, one that will send us to hell to burn forever, courtesy of that god who loved us so much.
So, apparently, Jesus didn’t die FOR our sins after all.
Right Ben. I find it amazing that so few people sit back and objectively think about these stories and realize just how crazy they are.
Allen said, “Jesus Christ, who is God incarnate, paid the price for every single person’s sin in history by dying the death of crucifixion at the hands of the Romans. He willingly died for every person’s sin that has ever lived and every will live.”
Although the competition is fierce, that notion, which is part of a larger preposterous story, could easily take the prize for The Dumbest Story Ever Told. Any god who would concoct such an obscene scheme is seriously deranged, and is certainly not worthy of worship. It’s truly amazing that people can still be so gullible in 2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Story_Ever_Told
Maybe the movie producers were trying to convey a message – that it was all just a story.
“He willingly died for every person’s sin that has ever lived and every will live.”
I don’t know how I missed that. My eyes must have been glazing over.
Every person who ever lived except for those people who don’t believe that he died for every person’s sin that has ever lived or ever will live.
Allen: What materially verifiable evidence do you have that anything written in your Wholey Babble is true? Because you and a lot of televangelists say so? Because we have heard 1700 years of churches regurgitating the various themes and stories you have just so cogently explained? Because the Babble is such an obviously god-inspired work that its truths are clear and simple for everyone to understand without convolutions and apologetics? Why don’t you believe the book of Mormon is true, Allen? Or the Koran? These books make the same kinds of wild claims that the Babble does. Why should I believe your Holey Myths and not those of the Hindu?
If your Babble was really written by the Omnipotent, Omniscient, Creator of the universe about 2000-2500 years ago to convey truth to the future generations (and as many people are alive now as have ever died apparently), then would you think that God who is so loving and concerned for all of his children might have presciently said something in his book that was unique and completely unknown to the people who he was supposedly using to write his tome. Something unequivocal like “Slavery is always wrong” or “Women are as human as men and must enjoy the same rights and privileges as men”, or how about “handwashing and boiling water prevent disease”, or “smoking tobacco will cause an early death”. There are a hundred things your all loving, all knowing, all powerful Sky-Friend could have had his scribes write down while penning the Babble that would have been incontrovertible proof to us today that your Sky-Friend was all loving, all powerful and all knowing. But he was either too lazy, too dumb, or too selfish to do any of that and so we are left with 2000 years of inquisitions, wars, schisms, sexism, racism, disease, hunger and genocide as evidence of the beneficence of your god and his manifestations through his devoted followers.
Allen, with that kind of track record for your god and his holy book, do you wonder why no one at this site takes anything you say about homosexuality with even a grain of salt?
Apparently Allen is a graduate of the Magical Repetition School of Evangelism. He seems to think that if he stuffs his fingers in his ears (so as not to hear any blasphemous logic or evil rationality) and recites his Salvation Incantation enough times that suddenly everyone else’s intellect will implode and we’ll all convert just to shut him up.
Give it a rest, pal. It sounds just as stupid to me this time around as it has all the other 40,000 times some zealous a**hole felt “led” to “witness” the “Truth” for my “salvation” from the “hell” his “god” plans to roast me in because he “loves” me so much.
For the sake of clarity, Allen, what you’re doing here is called harassment.
Above comment is mine (not to be confuse with other Brians)