And everyone knows Ex-Gay therapy is nothing but prejudiced b******t dressed up as “science” but follows none of actual scientific rules. In other words, it doesn’t hold up to actual scientific scrutiny. If you excuse me, I think I’m going to listen to people who actually study this for a living ie the experts on the subject. Crazy I know. But I guess I’m just weird that way.

In my high school and college P.E. classes, we all showered together and nobody gave it a thought. In high school swimming class many years ago, we swam in the nude, including the teacher. Nobody gave it a thought. In my YMCA at that time, swimming was also segregated and the men swam nude. Nobody gave it a thought. In my two years in the army, we all showered together and nobody gave it a thought. I wasn’t out, but most of the guys knew I was gay. And there were plenty of gays who were obvious, but didn’t talk about it. .

Later when teaching in a junior high school, I was the B team swimming coach, showered with the boys and nobody gave it a thought.

SO, Santorum, Perry, Bachmann and all the other bigots, what’s your problem with us? It’s YOUR OWN closeted, self-loathing colleagues who hire “luggage carriers,” “buy meth” from a male masseur,” proposition an undercover cop in an airport restroom, etc., etc., who give us all a bad name. No self-respecting out gay man would do such stupid things. Wake up and smell the roses.

Jerry

That’s it.
A person will still be gay, regardless of having an active sex life or not. Same as a hetero.

That the issue turns people like Santorum into blathering idiots is a very serious thing to examine.
He can’t articulate how unfair it is, for an exemplary soldier to suffer from discrimination for their orientation, any more than one would for their color or gender.

If the only thing that distinguishes a gay soldier from a straight one, is KNOWING if that soldier is gay, than the COMPORTMENT of that gay soldier has been in accordance with military standards.
And there are plenty of straight men, soldiers or not, who he insults.
Just because Santorum is a pussy pants little coward who wouldn’t want to serve with some gay, doesn’t mean OTHER straight soldiers feel that way or should.

I have been on countless tours, I’m a gym rat and the performing arts venues I’ve worked in were all similar situations of sharing showers and locker facilities with women of all kinds of backgrounds.
And besides, I have very close friendships with lesbians who I feel blessed to know and love.
So Santorum’s attitude that I should get the vapors if a lesbian sees me naked (and vice versa is possible), is a symptom of his paranoia.

I’m just not that preoccupied and don’t care. And for all the fears of lesbians other homophobic straight women have expressed makes me really want to laugh.
I’ve never, EVER had the experience they so fear and I’m the most likely, unlike them, to have it occur if it were going to.

Panicked soldiers are bad for military readiness. Gay panicked soldiers, even more so.

As a historical aside (AKA other things Frothy Doesn’t Know): African-American enlistees & draftees were once subjected to a comb test. That is, after they wet and allowed their hair to dry naturally, those who could get a comb through their hair without difficulty were deemed less black than those who couldn’t.

During WWII it might mean the difference between becoming one of the Tuskegee Airmen and becoming a cook. And I’d bet my last dollar that there were soldiers who passed as white but didn’t dare show anyone pictures of their family members and never invited their buddies to meet the family. (Hmmm, sound familiar?)

Yes, I’m not sure what I’m ranting about here either. Other than the fact that by attempting to prove there’s a difference between race-based bigotry and orientation-based bigotry Boxer Stain Santorum proves the similarities.