Ever since it was reported the other day that actress Cynthia Nixon, a bit indignantly, said that for her, being gay is a “choice,” I’ve been trying to get my thoughts together on exactly how I feel about what she said, and why it bothers me. Here’s the exact quote, and then I’ll tell you what I think about it:
I gave a speech recently, an empowerment speech to a gay audience, and it included the line ‘I’ve been straight and I’ve been gay, and gay is better.’ And they tried to get me to change it, because they said it implies that homosexuality can be a choice. And for me, it is a choice. I understand that for many people it’s not, but for me it’s a choice, and you don’t get to define my gayness for me.
Writer Alex Witchel reports that “her face was red and her arms were waving” as she continued, “It seems we’re just ceding this point to bigots who are demanding it, and I don’t think that they should define the terms of the debate,” Nixon said. “I also feel like people think I was walking around in a cloud and didn’t realize I was gay, which I find really offensive.”
Cynthia Nixon’s experience is Cynthia Nixon’s experience, of course, so to be clear, we are not debating that. I think that the biggest problem with her quote is that it’s irresponsible, because it introduces a concept and a reality that is really hard to capture in a sound bite. The trouble with that is that the very same bigots she refers to are simply not going to go beyond the sound bite, and choose instead to point at her and say, “see? She said it’s a choice! Now change.”
The truth of the matter, as science has been discovering for a while now, is that sexuality is far, far more complex than we’ve understood in the past, and that indeed, one of the major “x factors” involved in how people experience sexuality has more to do with how many x chromosomes they have, and less to do with whether they’re homo-, hetero- or bisexual. Tracy Clark-Flory examines this at Salon:
Activists have long combated extremist attacks on LGBT identities by highlighting the science showing that homosexuality is genetic — or, in the words of Lady Gaga, that gay people are “born that way.” It may be that simple for some, but research increasingly suggests that it isn’t for all — especially for gay women.
Lisa Diamond, a psychology professor at the University of Utah, spent over a decade tracking sexual identity changes in a group of 100 women for her book “Sexual Fluidity: Understanding Women’s Love and Desire.” She wrote, “Women’s sexuality is fundamentally more fluid than men’s, permitting greater variability in its development and expression over the life course.” Based on her research, she describes three main ways that sexual fluidity is expressed: “nonexclusivity in attractions” (i.e., the capacity to find all genders sexually attractive), “changes in attractions” (i.e., suddenly becoming romantically involved with a woman after a lifetime dating men) and the capacity to become attracted to ‘the person and not the gender’” (i.e., a partner’s sex is irrelevant).
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Copious research has revealed striking differences in male and female sexual orientation and arousal. In immensely awkward studies measuring men’s hard-ons while viewing various sexual stimuli, most guys have a strong response to either males or females; and their sexual orientation generally predicts their physical reaction. On the other hand, Bailey explains, “Women’s genital sexual arousal pattern is much less predictive of their sexual identity and their stated preferences,” he says. “Lesbians have a relatively weaker arousal preference for female sexual stimuli, on average, and straight women have no preference at all, on average.”
Okay. so, if you’re an honest person and you pay attention to this stuff, you already knew all of this. If you’re a decent person, it doesn’t change your support for things like marriage equality and nondiscrimination acts. Because it doesn’t matter! On that point, Cynthia Nixon and I agree. However, where it gets difficult, in this sound bite world, is in explaining that, even acknowledging the fact that men’s sexuality tends to be pretty much what it is, from the first time we get boners associated with sexual thoughts, whereas women often experience sexuality in a much more complex way, that still doesn’t do a damn thing for the Religious Right’s argument that people should want to change from gay to straight. And because we’re dealing with the Religious Right, we are in a situation where we are not arguing with people who are willing or even capable of rational, detailed discourse. For them, it’s all about their ideology and about preserving white male conservative Christian heterosexuality as the only truly “okay” state of being. Also, it’s about control.
But they will, as I said above, use sound bites like that against us, which is why I think it’s irresponsible. Cynthia has lent her voice to our cause in very powerful ways over the years, so this is in no way an attack on her. I feel that, perhaps, maybe she could have said a bit more on the subject, perhaps not casually throwing the word “choice” around and instead talking about how her sexuality evolved in the way it did. Readers on this side of the spectrum pretty much get what she’s saying, I think, but the Religious Right hears “choice,” and they think “well that proves it. Cynthia Nixon woke up one morning and decided to embrace the homosexual lifestyle.” Cynthia is free to correct me if I am wrong, but I doubt that her story is that simple, or that the story for any other women who have experienced a more fluid sexuality is that simple.
Moreover, what of bisexuals? One of the silliest Religious Right lies out there, one that truly makes me shake my head in the direction of whatever rock they live under, is that bisexuals naturally will want/need to marry one person of each gender. Indeed, when bisexuals decide to settle down into relationships, they tend to choose a partner they’re compatible with, regardless of gender. Sometimes they end up with same-sex partners, sometimes they end up with opposite-sex partners. Because they’re bisexual! I don’t think Cynthia is necessarily bisexual — she surely disavowed the concept in her statement — but there are many bisexuals out there who, when settling down with partners, make a choice to settle down with either a man or a woman. This, of course, still shouldn’t give the Religious Right any reason to feel stronger in their argument that, due to unreasoned bigotry hiding behind a third-grade reading of an ancient holy book, those people should opt for opposite-sex partners.
Here’s what we know. Men, due to our biology, tend to have a fixed, lifelong sexual orientation that we experience regardless of any “choices” we make. Alan Chambers “chooses” to live in what I would assume is a fairly sexless marriage with a woman, while admitting that he still is very much into guys. Many women experience a sexual orientation that is fixed in just the same way, but others experience it in a more fluid way that can change over the course of their lives.
Here’s what else we know. All major, grown-up mental health and medical associations have stated that reparative therapy, religious attempts to change a person’s sexual orientation through outside force, are somewhere between ineffective and harmful. Moreover, all major, grown-up mental health and medical associations have very politely stated that there is nothing inherently unhealthy or disordered about being gay, bisexual or straight.
Here’s another what else we know. Religious wingnut arguments against homosexuality have absolutely no place in rational discourse, as they do not involve rational thought, but rather stupid bigotry dressed up in religious language. We also know that the Religious Right has a pattern of using the same “biblical” arguments against whatever the hell it is that they hate these days. For them, it is all about control and their petty unwillingness to play well with others in a secular society that doesn’t automatically give them blow jobs, ponies and first prize ribbons simply for existing.
We on the side of fairness, equality and reality should be comfortable with dealing with science and reality, as they are. Reality doesn’t threaten us. But we do, until this battle for equality is fully won, have to be careful with our rhetoric and our casual comments, because our enemy is not upstanding and is not honest. As I said above, perhaps with this issue, it’s better to explain more of the reality, not less. We are only beginning to truly understand human sexuality from a scientific perspective, and what we’re learning is fascinating. But it’s nothing as simple as “a choice,” and certainly not in the way the Religious Right uses that word.
Of course, I also agree with Cynthia that, however sexual orientation works, it shouldn’t matter when it comes to things like equal rights. I mean hell, we’ve given the Religious Right carte blanche for decades for their beliefs, and those beliefs are clearly chosen. No, this is about dignity, fairness and equal opportunity.
So maybe this is a teachable moment, for those willing to learn. Sexuality is far, far, far more complex than people often understand, and is fascinating to study. People deserve equal rights, regardless of their sexual orientation. Those two ideas shouldn’t have a hard time coexisting, as they haven’t a damn thing to do with one another.










Cynthia Nixon is not a trustworthy source because, for example, when she was promoting the Sex and the City movies, she followed her handlers’ dictates to emphasize her attraction to men and to diminish references to her attraction to women. She now has another property to hawk and it is very possible that she calculated her statement to arouse protests to draw attention to the property she is hawking. She had a choice to put LGBT rights above the marketing of her acting projects but she chose to put the marketing of her acting projects above LGBT rights.
You’re making WAY to much of this.
There was no need for you and everyone else to bend themselves into semantic pretzels about all of this. All it is actually about is plain old garden variety biphobia by the straight as well as the the mainstream gay/lesbian community:
Cynthia Nixon:I don’t pull out the “bisexual” word because nobody likes the bisexuals. Everybody likes to dump on the bisexuals.
Kevin Sessums: But it is the “B” in LGBT.
Cynthia Nixon: I know. But we get no respect.
Kevin Sessums: You just said “we,” so you must self-identify as one.
Cynthia Nixon: I just don’t like to pull out that word.
If at least the lesbian/gay community would stop the sniggering jokes, with rewarding bisexual people for remaining in the “2nd Closet” as was done by the Advocate, GLAAD et. al. with Ms. Nixon back in 2010; with the hatred and the lies from various “gay spokespeople” *cough* Dan Savage *cough* etc. bisexual people wouldn’t feel it necessary to hide in various closets and when finally cornered makes fools of themselves and the rest of the LGBTQ+ COmmunity.
She’s a bisexual by definition. Yes, people -wrongly- dump on bisexuals, and have been doing so for 60 years or longer. But when we speak of the fluidity of human sexuality, bisexuality is what we’re addressing not those at either end of the scale (Kinsey 0 and Kinsey 6), and not necessarily those who mostly fall in the outer edges of bisexuality (Kinsey 1 or 5). Nixon didn’t “choose” to be gay. By her own words she is more comfortable on the lesbian end of the bisexual spectrum, which probably puts her at a Kinsey 4 or 5. This argument DOES matter because as our opponents make arguments based on our perceived ability to change. In so doing, they can promulgate laws designed to restrict or remove our rights, including Nixon’s right to “choose” the lesbian end of her bisexual bell curve. With those f*****s it is eiither/or, black and white, and not the shades of grey that represent reality.
She’s one person. Let her define her sexuality for herself. It’s unfortunate that she threw out those words in public, but otherwise it’s her life and her decision how to identify herself. She was speaking of her own life experience and it’s NOT up to us to tell her that her life is invalid.
Am I the only one being reminded of Anne Heche?
@Rainbow, I specifically pointed out that NONE of the argument over this is about telling her that her experience is invalid.
Again you are all making mountains out of molehills here. Has anyone looked at the definition of bisexual as defined by the actual bisexual community who live? (Rhetorical question, I know the answer is no since to most of you we don’t actually exist, so why bother to ask us?)
http://bialogue-group.tumblr.com/post/4678830355/teacherbidefinition
Bisexuals are people with the inborn capacity to form enduring physical, romantic, (some include spiritual) and/or emotional attractions to
(1) those of the same gender as themselves
(2) those of a different genders/gender presentations from themselves.
There may be an individual attraction for one gender or gender presentation which can also be fluid and changeable over time.
Bisexuality is not synonymous with being polyamorous. Individual bisexual people may be celibate, monogamous or non-monogamous just as individual straight, lesbian or gay people can be.
No matter what the gender/gender presentation of the person they are partnered with, bisexual people remain bisexual. They do not suddenly switch orientation as if by magic when they enter into a relationship.
Bia, did you even read this article?
My story in a nutshell… In total denial as a youth. Involved myself in the evangelical church because it helped me feed the denial. Even dabbled in Exodus (thankfully I saw right through that fairly quickly). Married, had 3 kids. Wife (who is still my best friend) wanted a divorce at 42. At that point, I had a choice to make. Did I want to go on as I had been or accept myself, be honest with who I was and live as a gay man?
Thank God I chose the latter. Some might say I chose to be gay, but I was already gay. What I chose was to live as a gay man. To live as a person who was honest with myself, my children, my ex-wife, and the world.
It was a good choice. The best one I ever made. And not just for myself but for all affected by it.
Mitt Romney and the homosexual agenda.
They do the same thing with that stupid Elton John quote about how he doesn’t care to have marriage equality because he doesn’t believe in marriage.
First of all, the quote has probably been taken out of context.
Second of all, who cares. Elton John is not the freakin’ spokes-gay for all gay people everywhere ever.
See pages 176-178 of Dawn Moon’s book, “God, Sex and Politics: Homosexuality and Everyday Theologies”
if she’s been “straight” and she’s been “gay”, then she’s bi…she’s not gay (or straight for that matter).
My gay-ness goes a lot deeper than a flipping “choice”
Similar to a few gals I’ve met who were ‘sexually compatible’ with both men and women, but their relationships (the stuff between love-making, like picking up milk on the way home) was better with women. They CHOOSE the (biological) sex that is most compatible for their relationship needs. The best match.
Only thing I disagree with in this article is the undercurrent of “biology = destiny.” Trans people everywhere would argue against that.
it is a choice for some and i think that needs to be brought out more because my husband is bisexual biologically he can be with either and for some reason ever since i came out there’s been this air of absolutists who on both side believe that bisexuality doesn’t exist because for some reason people on both sides place this bisexuality into the same category as transexuality and are revolted by it, i was once revolted but I’ve grown up, it’s time for the rest of you to grow up too and accept it and make it known so that bisexuals can come out as well and not be ignored as people who are somehow not a big part of our community.
Even said “I don’t think Cynthia is necessarily bisexual — she surely disavowed the concept in her statement”.
I certainly didn’t see any such disavowal in her statement.
I realize its trendy to claim women have sexual “fluidity” but what we’re really seeing is bisexuality. Our desires shift from day to day, week to week and month to month. I have at various times in my life been adamant that I am heterosexual, lesbian, and back and forth. It was only when I began to relax about my shifting desires I realized I’m bisexual and always have been.
Thanks to those of you who’ve stood up for us bisexuals against those uni-sexuals who would try to tell us what we are.
I just don’t understand how you are so unbelievably backwards on this.
You talk about Cynthia’s views not being able to fit into a soundbite. Well, first of all, I rue the day we live in a world where we only accept truth if it comes in soundbite form. I get that you’re media… but really?
But even bigger than that… WHAT are you even talking about!?!? You can’t even put your OWN perspective into a soundbite! You go into this whole long thing about “sexuality is very complex and blah blah blah blah blah”. The soundbite you have chosen to sum all of this up is “born this way”, which is ridiculously marginalizing and pushes out very large sections of the community.
Here’s a soundbite for you. How about if we all, the next time someone asks if we were born gay or chose it, just say this:
“What difference does it make?”
There’s a soundbite for you. They can’t really respond… if they do, it only opens up the conversation for a very inclusive and inspiring conversation. And, most importantly, it doesn’t trump your experience over the experience of others in the community.
One of the silliest Religious Right lies out there, one that truly makes me shake my head in the direction of whatever rock they live under, is that bisexuals naturally will want/need to marry one person of each gender. Indeed, when bisexuals decide to settle down into relationships, they tend to choose a partner they’re compatible with, regardless of gender.
This probably counts as going off on a tangent here but I’m glad you wrote that because it touches on something else the people claim about homosexuality. There is this concept of “choice”, but also there is this thing they keep referring to as the complementary nature of the genders. Homosexuality they claim, violates that complementary nature, and thus is supposedly an inferior form of coupling.
But you see it right here in that passage of yours: the complement is the person. The gender you’re attracted to is a libido thing and libido is a part of us that is so ancient I strongly doubt that’s something that’s either changeable, or changeable by force of will. But that’s desire. That heart and soul thing we call love is something else and it’s there we find our complement.
It’s very easy for heterosexuals, mating as they do to the opposite sex, to mistake that complementary nature of their relationships for gender. But it isn’t. The complement is the person. I think if they could see that fact more clearly, they’d understand how our relationships can be as soul-fulfilling for us as theirs are for them. I remember a passage from Robert Heinlein’s Time Enough For Love where he says the saddest thing about homosexuality is that it’s more difficult to reach a spiritual union. But no…it isn’t. The difficulty if any is having to deal with prejudice and hate that keeps two people from finding each other. We are not tragically flawed by a desire for sexual relationships that can never be completely fulfilling. We are simply people who mate to our own sex. There are boy couples and girl couples who fit each other perfectly well. The complement is the person.
Bruce– I think you are bang on in this. But i also think there is more to it– much more. Unfortunately i don’t have time to write much.
Complement means complete. It also means to add to, not necessarily to complete.
My husband doesn’t complete me in any sense, but he does make my life better. He and I are so different in so many ways.
The idea of complementarity in hetero relationships makes a fundamental assumption, besides the one you mention. It assumes that all men are alike in some very essential ways that make them men– aside from having a penis. Likewise with women– aside from having a vagina, or not having a penis, depending on your point of view.
That is simply neither true nor demonstrable.
The other assumption is that it is the sex act that completes the couple– more or less what you are saying. Of course not. One doesn’t have to have sex, much less procreate, to want to establish the familial bonds of marriage, of parenting, of any of it.
No more time
Ben: Well I Am distinguishing between desire and romantic spiritual love. The sex drive is a very ancient part of us, the higher emotions more recent. In the best of all possible worlds you find someone you can have that body and soul relationship with (if that’s the sort of thing you’re looking for that is…many people aren’t). But…yeah…desire is a distinct thing from soulful romantic love. There are couples who for one reason or another either can’t or don’t have sex, yet love each other very deeply and it is a significant and fulfilling thing for them.
The haters of course, say we can just have those sorts of platonic relationships and forgo sex if we wanted to, but that’s saying that libido is something you can just switch off at will. But the sex drive is older then the fish, let alone the mammals, let alone the primates, let alone us. It isn’t a blackboard anyone can just erase and scribble whatever they want on it. And we have seen over and over again what sexual denial does to gay people. Even if you can find someone of the opposite sex to love and cherish very deeply, very meaningfully, that sex drive will do with you what millions of years of adaptive evolution has refined it to do.
So your choice is to deal with it in an honest, healthy, wholesome way or let it just drag you along by the collar into situations that aren’t good. The best is to find that sexual and emotional partner who completes you body and soul.
But yes…some people, for a variety of reasons, don’t need that sexual fulfillment. I have a friend who identifies as an asexual and it would be rude to consider her deficient somehow in that she is indifferent to sex. Human diversity is a rainbow of infinite color and texture and what we should be concerned with is how people treat each other, not how their intimate lives measure up to some arbitrary set of traditional expectations. It’s that your friends can trust you, that the people you love are better for having been loved by you, and not worse, that matters.
I’m sorry but I can’t get upset with her. She’s not mean spirited, she’s not saying people aren’t born gay. She’s just saying this is how it is with her. And I agree we shouldn’t continue to allow bigots to define the arguments. She’s bisexual–even if she doesn’t like the terms. If bisexuals are upset with her that’s their business. She’s an amazing actress and it’s great she’s open and supportive.
Lisa Diamond…
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[...] When I wrote about Cynthia Nixon’s remarks last week, that her gayness was a choice, the main thrust of my argument is that people like Cynthia, and the rest of us in the LGBT community, need to tell more of our experience, not less. It was never that anyone was trying to deny Cynthia’s own experience, as some seemed to feel. I’m glad to see that she has indeed told more of her own story to The Advocate: “My recent comments in The New York Times were about me and my personal story of being gay. I believe we all have different ways we came to the gay community and we can’t and shouldn’t be pigeon-holed into one cultural narrative which can be uninclusive and disempowering. However, to the extent that anyone wishes to interpret my words in a strictly legal context I would like to clarify: [...]