Alvin McEwen of Holy Bullies and Headless Monsters dropped a bombshell this morning: an anonymous source tipped him off to a secret Facebook group called “Truth4Time,” which serves as a central gathering point for anti-LGBT religious right activists plotting online attacks against the LGBT community on sites like YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook:
Truth4Time is supposed to be a library of anti-gay articles, blogs, and other materials for its members to use in their fight against the supposed “gay agenda.” Apparently the group has a large lists of documents which contains anti-gay information (i.e. propaganda) that members are invited to use. . .
[The group contains] public figures and prominent members of the anti-gay industry, including:
- a Fox News pundit,
- former employees of Concerned Women for America and The Family Research Council,
- a prominent member of the American Family Association,
- long term anti-gay activists, including those who testified in front of Congress,
- prominent members of the so-called “ex-gay” movement,
- a member of a state legislature,
- college professors from right-wing universities,
- activists who have called for laws declaring homosexuality illegal,
- members of a prominent anti-gay marriage equality group, and
- various religious right talking heads who us bloggers have had to refute many times in the past.
Members of the group seem to be paralyzed by fear and consumed with anger about the fact that the rabid homophobia they proudly propagate is being increasingly pushed to the extreme fringe where it belongs. They’re convinced that the “homosexualists” are waging an online “disinformation/propaganda campaign” intent on flooding websites with pro-LGBT messages; the group’s mission statement shows how it intends to counteract this trumped-up threat:
It’s pretty well know [sic] that if and when you attend a homosexual activist conference (like HRC and others), they give them a handful of goals to accomplish. One of the goals is to take the time to go online and post “jamming” messages on as many sites as possible. This is definitely happening, and happening more and more.
We need extremely trustworthy people who want to engage with and debate the homosexualists online to counter their disinformation/propaganda campaign. Once we assemble enough people, we will “jam-back” on other sites too, such as Youtube [sic], Myspace, Tumblr, Twitter, Google Plus, etc, and any chat forum, blog, or pro-homo articles that have a comment section. We’ll start with facebook [sic] pages first though.
Along with countering their messages with facts, we will also use their tactic of “gaining up” [sic] on their comments and pages, and report/flag it multiple times to get them removed. The goal is to assemble at least 50-100 people and exponentially keep adding more warriors, so it can be a non-stop thing. When people are busy working, there will hopefully be others who are free during those times. And some days and nights, by chance, we’ll all be online full force. Thank for you [sic] help!
Group members post links to articles that they wish to flood with anti-gay comments, crackpot “statistics,” and junk science. (Incidentally, they seem to have a particular hatred for Joe Jervis over at Joe.My.God, even speculating about the possibility that Satan whispers in Joe’s ear.) According to McEwen, his source — also a member of the group — revealed its existence after becoming disturbed by a member’s plan to inundate physicians and school boards with anti-LGBT propaganda.
Alvin’s post is worth reading in its entirety. With all the progress we’re making towards LGBT equality, it’s easy to forget the depths to which our opponents will stoop in their hate-fueled, lie-filled, unholy crusade against our community, our rights, our lives, and our love. But if we forget, we do so at our peril.
It appears the site has been taken down or doesn’t come up with a search on FB
It’s a secret group, invisible to non-members.
I believe you can set a Closed group to Invite Only. I know I did this recently with an Event, and I believe it applies to groups, too.
Ninja’d by John. I’d “lol” but this is no laughing matter.
Seriously, this genuinely sickens me.
What the hell happened to equality. We all bleed the same colour, we all deserve the same respect.
It’s haters like those people who hide behind religion that disappoint me.
I thought religion spread the word of love to all! Not a select few.
this is what i found when i looked for this site http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=4333
so sad there are people like these in the world
I would love to be involved and hope we have some sort of teach ins so we know exactly the best way to counter them when approached or we seen evidence of them.
The relgious fascists in America will never stop until they have pulled down our government and installed a theocracy. We all know that is their goal, we are just a part of that overall goal, to recriminalize us, deport us, harass, beat, abuse, maim, and kill us. We know this. Get armed. Take no s**t from these a******s. Write your Congress people, lobby and get all the protective laws we can get in place. Sue employers, states, and the federal government for your rights. Never give up.
What can we do to stop them? Will reporting them help? But how do you report an invisible site? It is frightening how many people seem to thrive on feeding their own hatred.
I found this when doing some research
http://truth4time.tumblr.com/
Sigh.
What they seem to think is that by myself loving another man, there will be Judgement day. Pfft.
We’re not the ones looking ridiculous now. Rather we’re nicer, smarter people than them, and we’re not the ones shoving our sh-t down people’s throats! When will people just REALISE… We’re more normal THAN THEM!
When you don’t have any real arguments to support your cause, you turn to sabotage and other dirty tricks.
Oh, and, by the way? Gay people are NOT the paedophiles. EVERYONE knows that the Church, however, ARE. :D
Will someone tell me where I can find Truth4Time on Facebook? I can’t find it.
I think the haterz might be genuinely afraid, having believed the lies spread about LGBT folk, without testing anything against reality. I think they are sincerely wrong. Sincere or not, they are just plain wrong in what they are doing, but if we can counter their fear, with truth – scientific data, plus truth of experience, we might be able to get them to calm down enough to think logically. They will not be able to see that the Bible doesn’t actually support them either, until they are able to let go of the fear and to see reality. A lot of the haterz do not percieve their hatred as such; they see it as “tough love” because of the distorted way in which they view the Scriptures and of what they percieve as ‘natural’..and of how they currently percieve the LGBT community. Lewd behaviour at Pride events only reinforces the misconceptions. So, dispel the lies with truth and treat others as you would want to be treated if you were as blazing ignorant
To whomever said “the Church are the real paedophiles,” it is some people in churches that are. Lumping a group (Churches/religion) together only serves to further their (these anti-gay nutjobs) cause.
Now, as to the issue, these people will stop at nothing to get their view seen as reality. The majority of people see them for what they are: zealots. They will make use fake science and of course religious beliefs as statements of fact and just show how ignorant they truly are. I agree with another’s comment on here that we, whether LGBT or straight, need to stay on top of the politicians fighting for equal rights. Let them know WE vote and will NOT allow any politician who does not feel the same and will not fight with us will not be re/elected! Period! No if, ands or buts! They, the politicians, will either vote for and put into effect laws that include marriage equality, and safety of LGBT people regarding self (hate-crime) and jobs (non-discrimation) or they will be gone! That’s my two-cents worth.
@Eriskay — the group is secret, so nonmembers can’t view it and it isn’t searchable. That’s why its existence was unknown until now: a member of the group revealed its existence to Alvin McEwen.
Does anyone else find it ridiculously funny that the point of the Facebook group is to provide “docs” for members to “cut and paste” to comment sections to combat the “homosexualists” movement? I laugh openly for it only goes to further the assertion they are all lemmings/puppets incapable of forming their own independent thoughts on this issue that is supposed to be so terribly important to them. I do not need to reference a prewritten document to refute their hate-filled ranting. It simply is just that, hate-filled ranting. All I need to say is: I am an Ally.
The only hate ranting going on is from the lunatic leftists who have been exposed to the truth and they hate the truth. They seem to think their “opinion” trumps the truth. Sorry boys and girls but you lose yet again.
[...] broke the story this morning of a secret “cabal” of anti-gay activists working together on their [...]
James, are you a joke, ala Poe’s Law (any sufficiently advanced troll is indistinguishable from genuine kooks/fundamentalists).
James is projecting. It’s both a sign of mental illness and standard operating procedure for conservatives.
Opps, Jimmy @ 19, you made a slight error.
I will correct it for you.
The only hate ranting going on is from the lunatic *right wingnuts* who have been exposed to the truth and they hate the truth. They seem to think their “opinion” trumps the truth. Sorry boys and girls but you lose yet again. (And Jimbo, you and yours and so angry and irrational now because you *know* your side is losing and will continue to do so.) Polls and demographics don’t lie — unlike the right wing ‘lunatic fringe’.
This is all I could find….sorry.
http://holybulliesandheadlessmonsters.blogspot.com/2012/04/secret-religious-right-facebook-group.html
You think that if we tell them it’s not just us they’re against, but our families and friends too, and all straight-identifying people who are also on our side, they’ll just give up?
Well, any rational person would.
LOL! This story is so funny. As if they will ever out argue us, ha-ha-ha. The deal about sending e-mails to school boards, that is a PFOX tactic so I bet one of the people in the secret group is a PFOX member. They target School Boards with dis-information.
If they are for “Truth” why are they hiding? Our Pro-Equality websites don’t hide, actually we wish MORE people would read them.
Once again, this site morbidly misrepresents groups like Truth4Time and what the actual beliefs are.
It is not a site for bashing individuals; but a site for critiquing the collateral damage of a radical movement, and its personal consequences on individuals who deserve better.
You can debate that all you like. However, they are no witch hunters. Your mole was the one doing the witch hunting. And the rhetoric on this site has been the most guilty, in my observation, of the actual hate rhetoric.
You want to know why Truth4Time and other groups are so secretive?
It’s not because they’re plotting to hurt anyone in secret, as you guys plot to hurt them openly.
It is because they are afraid of YOU bullies abusing the censorship systems which social media sites have implemented, in an effort to destroy their constitutionally-protected right to free assembly.
You all do not deceive me.
“You all do not deceive me.”
Right back atcha. Too bad about your weird little group, huh?
I checked out the Tumblr and it is hysterical that they’re stuck in the born-tired meme of “the gays want tolerance but they won’t tolerate our bigotry and insanity”.
Note to nutcases: I don’t want your tolerance, I want you to mind your own business. I couldn’t care less what you think of me, but if you make a move against me, you’re going to lose.
OB, you’ve already been hurting us for decades. Our children are literally dying because of you. You are a coward who can’t face the blood on his hands.
I did some digging around on facebook. I found the link to the page. It looks like it wasn’t a secret page. But you’re right, it looks like it was taken down…
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Truth4Time/160122220772330
On the contrary, Rainbow. I’ve never physically hurt you, or anyone connected to you. Though someone like you did try to fight me in college once, after butting in on an argument that had nothing to do with him or you, and hijacked it for his personal agenda. So much for “minding your own business,” Justme.
I merely told him “this isn’t about you.” But he would not relent. It was about a girl trying to read racism into something I said merely because I used the word “ghetto” in a sentence. Apparently, she believes that only blacks live in ghettos and that I cannot use the word without meaning her. Which is ridiculous. Any study of geography would reveal that ghettos exist all over the world, and that all sorts of groups live in them.
You want to talk about blood on the hands, Phoenix? Tell it to Scott Barefoot, whom men like you have condemned to a slow death by AIDS. He has grown wise to you since.
Or tell it to Adam Walsh, whom a man like you kidnapped and decapitated when he was only a child. The reason “America’s Most Wanted” exists.
And don’t you DARE try to come at me with your fabricated lies about Matthew Shepherd (killed for drug money) or David Kato (killed by a GAY PROSTITUTE….over MONEY!)
I won’t buy it.
OB you are a liar and a bigot. You spew the worst kinds of lies to make us look like some sort of evil then you pretend to be innocent when someone tries to remove the threat you worked so hard to build up.
If you don’t know the American implications of the word ghetto than that’s your problem.
Who is “Adam Barefoot”? Another fabrication by bigots to make us look like something we aren’t?
You want to play the association game with Ottis Toole? Alright than. Let’s talk about Ted Bundy.
Matthew Shepherd was beaten to death and CRUCIFIED because he was gay. That’s it. His murderers admitted it. They only tried to change their stories after they had already been in prison for several years. David Kato’s murder will probably never be solved, but you can’t really think we’re so stupid as to accept the official story that his murder just so happens to perfectly match the excuses his country is using to attempt genocide against us.
I finally understand what “homophobia” is. It is what happens when those who choose to engage in sex-like (homosexual) behavior with members of their own sex and their enablers, when the little bubble they live in is burst by honest, science based objections to their chosen behavior. They are overwhelmed by irrational fear (phobia). Homo + Phobia, I now understand the term homophobia Thanks everyone. :D
So when did you choose to be straight Justin? Also, there are no science based objections.
Rainbow, I believe he’s referring to the “objections” that have proven false time and again. Also, his type are in no position to call anyone else irrational, due to the very basis of their animus toward the LGBT community being such.
Every day Rainbow, every day.
Justin’s just a bisexual in denial.
Justin. There are no objective, rational arguments against same gender relationships: only faith-based (religious) and aesthetic (the “yuck” factor) ones. All of your sophomoric attempts to ascribe intellectually viable arguments against LGBT people are because you are trying to avoid having to admit that fact. The evidence-less religious beliefs you cling to so tenaciously carry over into everything you don’t happen to like or understand. Fortunately, the world is slowly changing and you and your kind are losing the ability to dictate how the rest of us have to live.
critique is not censorship. Exposure is not censorship. Cowards, the lot of them. Lacking the courage of their so-called convictions. It’s funny and sad that these people who claim to worship Jesus lack his commitment and bravery. He DIED for what he believed in, and these people can handle being CRITICIZED for what they believe in. Cowards, plain and simple.
“sex-like (homosexual) behavior”? Yay! I’m still a virgin! But if I’ve never had sex, then, according to you, I’m not in any way gay, so what in the world are you complaining about?
Man, these people are beyond weird. Thank fictional god that at least they’re funny!
“Though someone like you did try to fight me in college once, after butting in on an argument that had nothing to do with him or you, and hijacked it for his personal agenda. So much for “minding your own business,” Justme.”
You’re SERIOUSLY still butt-hurt over ONE TIME someone INTERRUPTED you being stupid in COLLEGE?!?
Wow.
However, I can’t really say I’m at all surprised.
Obscuredbeyond said “Tell it to Scott Barefoot, whom men like you have condemned to a slow death by AIDS…Or tell it to Adam Walsh, whom a man like you kidnapped and decapitated when he was only a child.”
You come here and claim this site misrepresents the truth, its us guilty of hate rhetoric and you are not plotting to hurt us. Then you accuse gays you’ve never met and don’t know of being the sort of people who infect others with AIDS and kidnap and decapitate children! What astounding hypocrisy and lack of self awareness! In two posts you’ve shown what a liar you are and how its you who is spouting the hate rhetoric and trying to characterize innocent people in such a way as to expose them to violence and murder. We are the victims of bigots like you, not vice versa.