Predictably, the upper middle class white male lobbying group known as GOProud has endorsed Mitt Romney for president. They did their usual perfunctory, half-hearted song and dance about how wingnut issues are really gay issues*. They didn’t spend much time on the fact that Mitt Romney is against every real issue directly involving gay rights, because they really don’t care. These are lily-white folks, and hey, they got theirs, right? The rest of the population is irrelevant.
Dan Savage reacted in a very Dan Savage way:
If the shoe fits…
Anyway, Chris Barron, representative of GOProud, is now superbly butthurt by this:
After GOProud announced its endorsement of Mitt Romney today, Dan Savage of “It Gets Better” fame, took to twitter to refer to gay conservatives as “house faggots.” Apparently, faggot is an entirely appropriate slur as long as Dan Savage is slinging it and gay people who you don’t agree with are on the receiving end.
It gets better my ass.
Right. Dan’s campaign to tell gay kids that It Gets Better is completely negated by the fact that Dan made fun of gay conservatives and, by, extension, Chris Barron, a man who represents an organization that, for all practical purposes, works against equality for LGBT people. The poor, poor dear.
People can agree or disagree with whether Dan should have phrased it that way, but the analogy is fairly on point, whether or not you like that he used the word “faggot.” That’s the only part Chris wants you to focus on, though. If you’re busy on the fainting couch, you don’t have time to consider the meaning of Dan’s words, I guess.
*I suppose they ARE gay issues, if the only gays you acknowledge are white, male, upper-middle class gays who are either self-ish or self-loathing.
Dan Savage is RIGHT!
Get real!
There is NO way you can spin this to disguise the truth.
Dan Savage is proof of everything that’s wrong with the LGBT community. He does more harm than good & is an embarrassment to our people. He does not speak speak for myself & many other gays & lesbians.
I don’t recall Dan ever claiming to speak for all of us. He may not be right all the time, and maybe his rhetoric is a little harsh sometimes – until you consider some of the rhetoric lobbed at us.
However, given the GOP’s homophobia, this time Dan’s right.
Dan Savage speaks for me a whole bunch of the time, luckyjoe. He does way more good than harm and the “harm” he does is speaking the truth to people who just don’t want to hear it.
What do you mean by the way when you write “Dan Savage is proof of everything that’s wrong with the LGBT community”? Proof of what??
[...] side of the fence, who remain dead set in the notion that Obama is their enemy. Likewise, GOProud came out in support of the anti-gay Mitt Romney, claiming that, on balance, a Romney presidency would be [...]
Is the term “house faggot” lost on most of the responders here? It is a direct taking of the term “house n****r” and everything it stands for. When people who for all counts and purposes is as gay as the next person but either due to his self hatred and loathing of everything gay they pretend to be like the oppressors.:
house n****r 211 up, 174 down
The house n****r, as defined by Malcolm X, is the slave who imagines himself to be thought of as kin by his master because they live in the same house.
A modern-day equivalent is a dishwasher who has a chip on his shoulder because he busts suds at a four-star hotel or restaurant.
“What chu talking about?! I aint no field n****r slave! He aint my massa, he’s my pal — we live together see! I am a house n****r!”
“There’s a huge difference between a guy who washes dishes at Denny’s and a guy who washes dishes at the Ritz. The former is a dirtbag and the latter is a pro.”
Of course Dan Savage got it right on the head. Take back the power and call it like it is.
Is the term house faggot lost on most? It comes from the old term for slaves that worked in the masters houseUrban Dictionary: house n****r
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=house+niggerA black person that does their best to please white people even if it means disowning their own racial identity.
GOProud – the Roy Cohen’s of the 21st century.
At least the Log Cabin Republicans admit there’s a big problem with the GOP and are trying to change that. Although I do not agree with the LCR’s politics, I can still respect them for working towards change in the Republican Party. This is not so with GOProud. They don’t want to rock the boat and are very willing to sell their community down the river if it gets them a pat on the head from Romney or the men who control him.
Jesus, Barron is such a little weasel.
More hyperbole in order to side step the real issue at hand. GOProud should be ashamed of themselves. I would rather someone be upfront and honest about their classism and discrimination than to hide behind money, power and party. Words over reality yet again.
At least Dan will tell me exactly what he thinks and supports, even if I may not like it or agree with him. His transparency is refreshing.
GOPound…lol…on the other hand, will exclaim about semantics while supporting an individual who is against equality for all. Why am I not surprised?
AWWGG
Another Well-Off White Gay Guy
GOProud endorses a candidate who supports reinstating DADT and supports a constitutional amendment forbidding gay marriage. I think the term “House Faggot” is completely appropriate. And GOProud has a lot of nerve getting all upset after trying to raise arch-homophobe Ann Coulter to the status of Judy Garland.
GoProud Sucks Hitler’s dick.
No Ann. Just… no.
Want to know How GetEQUAL organize like me thinks….
well this is interesting… Because Dan is right… and the fact that, our movement is not fighting for 100% equality but crumbs is a whole another story.
@Eddie? What do you mean “our movement is not fighting for 100% equality, but crumbs?”
Chris Barron deserves to have his little fee-fees hurt. He’s supporting someone who would love to get rid of DADT and any of our other hard-won rights that he can get away with. And he’s upset that Dan Savage called him a faggot. Waaaah. I prefer to call them Aunt Charlies, but faggot in the most perjorative sense works in the case of Chris Barron.
Here we have religious haters saying that we should be rounded up and put in concentration camps with electrified fences, or we should just be outright executed by the secular government, and now Barron is supporting someone who wants to take what rights we do have and he’s upset because his little fee-fees got hurt? Go cry somewhere else, Chris. You are nothing more than a quisling.
Now, that’s not the Case no more…..
I mean the past.. Throwing folks under the best… only adhering to a certain type of Queer and not the entire movement…
you know Grassroots VS Gay-Inc…..
HRC and CO past actions… wish are null void.. since new changes and new actions !
Under the Bus, My apologize… i”m writing a blog about Collation building and bring the LGBT movement under a single fist for justice and solidarity !!!!..
And You Know Go-Proud is all about Crumb fighting !
Or is GOProud about crumbs fighting?
“He does more harm than good & is an embarrassment to our people”
I reserve those words for Barron, who would stab us all in the back in a futile effort to preserve the privilege his undeserved wealth grants.
What IS it with people whining about Dan Savage? I seriously don’t get it. One of liberals’ biggest problems has always, always, always been spokespeople who are too freaking nice.
Evan, I’d say 50% concern trolls and 50% people who just like to whine. The whiners always grouse about the LGBT “establishment” ruining everything while the whiners’ comments posted at various blogs around the Internet are the true path to TBGL rights.
@Evan & Edward They’re all fools, though. Clutching their pearls at Mr. Savage’s choice of words, while conveniently ignoring the truth backing those words. They’d rather slam him for being outspoken (even though he’s one of the few who’d speak up, rather than lay down and die, which is what we need more of), rather then question why they’re listening to a spoiled little rich boy with no backbone, or heeding the words of an absolutely disgusting bronze-age tome. Questioning requires thought, and thought requires far too much effort on their part.
Dan Savage, or rather Keenan Houlahan, the plumbing advice columnist whose internalized homophobia led him to abandon his given name of Keenan Houlahan as too faggoty, for the masculine comic book hero moniker “Dan Savage,” has once again sought media attention, calling a gay political group “faggots” for endorsing someone not his choice for President.
In particular he called them “house faggots,” which is probably projection, given Democratic party gays’ long tradition of sucking up slights, evasions and half-measures, while bending over and spreading their wallets for politicians who otherwise ignore them.
It was kind of an odd charge though, since the group he was attacking, GOProud, is not a membership organization, and has an advisory board heavy with heterosexuals, like author Margaret Hoover and taxpayer advocate Grover Norquist. How can these people be house faggots when they aren’t even faggots?
One supposes he was aiming at the group’s director, Jimmy LaSalvia, and founder, Chris Barron, who are bonafide (as it were) homosexuals, or perhaps its staff, a uniformly delectable group of college age gay interns (I have visited their Capitol Hill office). The curiosity there is that Chris Barron did not endorse Romney, but instead is supporting Libertarian presidential candidate Governor Gary Johnson, and was indeed a Johnson delegate this May at the Libertarian Party nominating convention. Further the GOProud advisory board endorsement was not unanimous, and even the endorsement they did issue had a heavy context of “gay people are more than simply gays, they also are taxpayers who need jobs and a president who will not lie to them, hence Barack Obama fails on all counts,” and for those who are two party faithful, only one “hold your nose” or “hope he evolves” choice remains (and Romney’s history is certainly one of … evolutions).
The gay trolls who live in the leftover blogosphere are in their usual ferment. Too ugly to leave their basements for a gay bar or film festival, they sit at home all night on their PCs typing howlers in worship of their hero Keenan Houlahan. The comments at the leftoid RawStory are particularly laughable. The author manages not to know or report any of the facts I laid out (GOProud board may be mainly straights, Barron a Libertarian not supporting Romney, etc.). The insectoid readers continue on, discussing Log Cabin Republicans, which is (1) not GOProud, (2) a membership organization, and (3) has, I believe, not (yet) endorsed Romney. And of course these poor anencephalic poofters (no doubt doubly anencephalic, actually) begin barking about how white gay males who are part of the 1% identify with the ruling class, even as these leftoid pole smokers defend their master’s use of predator drones to kill gay children in Arabia, his placing of gay and lesbian Americans on his Presidential kill list, and his bailout of crony capitalists who control the Federal Reserve System. And even while gay white male Keenan Houlahan strokes these sheeple and laughs all the way to the bank and his White House dinners with their money.
Good thing so many of them will not breed.
You are aware that Keenan Hollahan (not Houlahan) was merely his director name, right? And his full real name is Daniel Keenan Savage. The information is out there. Just google it. There is no excuse for laziness these days. Especially in regard to not paying attention to what party is doing what.
Wow, way to go Bruce Majors! That was poetic, full of $10 words and stupid.
Aulton, you are my hero of the day. Everyone should behold Aulton’s reply to a troll and emulate it. In a concise paragraph he exposed the troll’s very first sentence as complete nonsense; he kicked the door in and the whole rotten edifice came down. Brilliant, really.
I had to click on the troll’s name. This TLDR comment was a copy, verbatim, of his own blog. I scrolled through it quickly; a lot of zero comments and zero responses. Would somebody please pay attention to me, dammit!?
Wow Bruce Majors, long, stupid, and wrong. You’re a triple threat.
Great smack down Aulton.
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