Comments on: The Convoluted Legal Case For Reparative Therapy

By: Pete

Pete — Sat, 06 Oct 2012 16:09:18 +0000

You all gotta see this. Some fundie tried to refute Wayne, and failed miserably:

http://www.realliberalchristianchurch.org/2012/10/04/tom-usher-v-wayne-besens-convoluted-case-for-reparative-therapy.html

This guy thinks a crappy website (probably a front for NARTH) is proof that gays “can change”. Not only that, he seriously believe amputated limbs can be regrown through prayer:

http://www.realliberalchristianchurch.org/2012/09/20/house-rules-and-the-question-of-homosexuality.html

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By: Pat

Pat — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 17:21:06 +0000

Sounds like libel to me, James.

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By: James

James — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:14:58 +0000

I love how in the article I read, they say that they “cured” thousands of gay people. Let me tell you something. Many years ago, when I was a teenager, I went through this “therapy” and it did not work for me. However, because I completed it, they put my name down as someone who was “cured”. After realizing that I was not cured at all, I went back and told them, but they refused to take my name off the list.

So my name is on one of those lists, and its being shown to all the poor new “patients” coming in for “treatment”, even though I made it clear that my name should not be on that list.

So there’s their “thousands” of people…since they’re so SURE about that, then why dont they get these thousands of people to come testify on their behalf? Cuz they know those people really weren’t “cured”…

By: Paul Mc

Paul Mc — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:09:57 +0000

Not to make this about individual, however, the evidence of an ex-gay therapy survivor was critical in Prop8. These guys have someone who will testify in defense of this therapy apparently. I looked him up.

He seems like a nice guy and does a really worthwile job but I feel sorry for him and nervous about the impact this case will have on his life. It’s going to get ugly.

By: Jim Hlavac

Jim Hlavac — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 22:20:03 +0000

So far, everyone who supports this process has claimed a 100% failure rate. No one can produce any gay person changed to a hetero. Even the guys who claimed they successfully went through the process say that it didn’t really work; that they’re faking it.

Meanwhile, this boils down to faith healing. They claim that mere reliance on finding Jesus will be the “cure.” Parents are not allowed to use just “faith” to “cure” cancer or other life imperiling diseases; courts step in and order real medical care. These people claim “homosexuality” is a life threatening (and society threatening) disease, and the kids can, should, and must be cured by faith alone. Aren’t they now asking courts to allow them to step in with supposed “real” medical care, which has been proved fake?

By: Andrew

Andrew — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:16:26 +0000

Gary I was thinking more along the lines of Duk needs to duck but yours is by far better.

By: Pat

Pat — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 16:49:33 +0000

When I go to the doctor, I can’t tell him or her what the treatment will be in advance.

Any counselor that argues they should be allowed to do this because a patient asked for it *really* doesn’t deserve a license.

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 16:07:39 +0000

Michael, its not just about money, its about providing an excuse for anti-gay laws. They point to this “therapy” and say “See, gays can change into heterosexuals so we don’t need the law to accomodate gays.”.