Comments on: Survivor Recalls How Ex-Gay ‘Counselors’ Damaged Families http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/survivor-recalls-how-ex-gay-counselors-damaged-families/ TruthWinsOut.org is a non-profit organization that counters right wing propaganda, exposes the “ex-gay” myth and educates America about gay life. Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:34:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: John A. Ellis http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/survivor-recalls-how-ex-gay-counselors-damaged-families/#comment-182 John A. Ellis Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:45:58 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/survivor-recalls-how-ex-gay-counselors-damaged-families/#comment-182 I disagree with the belief that homosexuality is approved of in God's sight. I also DISAGREE with the things the men and women were told to do as 'therapy' in efforts to remedy their same-sex attractions. All of these instructions listed above can be healthy when naturally occurring, and needed. Women do not need to wear makeup. Men do not need to date women for 'homework.' Changing your last name does not change who you are or where you've been. The woman who implied abuse did so to her own disadvantage instead of continuing the search for the root cause of her sexual struggles. The root cause is still there unabated and undiscovered. The young man should have wanted to repair those relationships regardless of weather or not it had anything to do with his sexuality, provided he could do so in a healthy and responsible way. Homosexuality is an idea, just like theft and lying. These ideas are perpetrated by the Devil as things that will gratify. Religion in and of itself is empty, and so is sexual therapy when it is driven only by religious traditions. Only a genuine and true relationship with Christ will heal our desires for sin, whether they be sexual or not. This relationship requires effort and honesty. When we are honest with Christ and ourselves we stop making excuses for our habits of sin and begin to reconcile a life of righteousness. I do not write this to condemn or judge anyone caught in sin. I myself an simply a sinner saved by Grace and Grace alone. Without grace we are all doomed to a life of separation from fulfillment and satisfaction, which is only found in the relationship that grace allows us to have with Christ. And by the way, Freud was nuts, and I personally think that only a select few of his theories were even remotely accurate. To suggest that, when of a sexual nature or topic, Christian therapy is based in the roots of Freud, is absolutely narrow and unfounded. I disagree with the belief that homosexuality is approved of in God’s sight. I also DISAGREE with the things the men and women were told to do as ‘therapy’ in efforts to remedy their same-sex attractions. All of these instructions listed above can be healthy when naturally occurring, and needed. Women do not need to wear makeup. Men do not need to date women for ‘homework.’ Changing your last name does not change who you are or where you’ve been. The woman who implied abuse did so to her own disadvantage instead of continuing the search for the root cause of her sexual struggles. The root cause is still there unabated and undiscovered. The young man should have wanted to repair those relationships regardless of weather or not it had anything to do with his sexuality, provided he could do so in a healthy and responsible way. Homosexuality is an idea, just like theft and lying. These ideas are perpetrated by the Devil as things that will gratify. Religion in and of itself is empty, and so is sexual therapy when it is driven only by religious traditions. Only a genuine and true relationship with Christ will heal our desires for sin, whether they be sexual or not. This relationship requires effort and honesty. When we are honest with Christ and ourselves we stop making excuses for our habits of sin and begin to reconcile a life of righteousness. I do not write this to condemn or judge anyone caught in sin. I myself an simply a sinner saved by Grace and Grace alone. Without grace we are all doomed to a life of separation from fulfillment and satisfaction, which is only found in the relationship that grace allows us to have with Christ. And by the way, Freud was nuts, and I personally think that only a select few of his theories were even remotely accurate. To suggest that, when of a sexual nature or topic, Christian therapy is based in the roots of Freud, is absolutely narrow and unfounded.

]]> By: Eshto http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/survivor-recalls-how-ex-gay-counselors-damaged-families/#comment-154 Eshto Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:00:11 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/survivor-recalls-how-ex-gay-counselors-damaged-families/#comment-154 I'm glad you pointed out that little irony, that ex-gay therapy is based on psychotherapy, not religion - and psychotherapy that is a century old, no less. Maybe in a hundred more years, the Christian right will start blaming homosexuality on global warming? I’m glad you pointed out that little irony, that ex-gay therapy is based on psychotherapy, not religion - and psychotherapy that is a century old, no less.

Maybe in a hundred more years, the Christian right will start blaming homosexuality on global warming?

]]> By: William http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/survivor-recalls-how-ex-gay-counselors-damaged-families/#comment-152 William Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:10:31 +0000 http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/survivor-recalls-how-ex-gay-counselors-damaged-families/#comment-152 Re "good intentions", the late Sir Oliver Lodge wrote about an author: "I suppose he may be credited with good intentions; which I always consider the feeblest kind of praise, because the only people without good intentions are criminals; and I am not so sure about them." Re “good intentions”, the late Sir Oliver Lodge wrote about an author:

“I suppose he may be credited with good intentions; which I always consider the feeblest kind of praise, because the only people without good intentions are criminals; and I am not so sure about them.”

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