Louis C.K. was always one of those comedy names I was vaguely aware of but nothing had heretofore compelled me to pay attention. Apparently I wasn’t missing anything:
![louis Louis C.K.: The Only Comedian So Far Who Doesnt Get It [UPDATED]](http://cdn.truthwinsout.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/louis.jpg "louis")
Hilarious to whom? I mean, what person with a developed sense of humor found Tracy Morgan’s tirade funny? That was precisely the problem, and what [apparently] better comedians than Louis C.K. immediately understood. I mean, even Chris Rock got it, and apparently Chris is Louis’ former boss. Maybe Chris could clear up his confusion.
Whatever.
[h/t Igor]
UPDATE: Commenter Alonzo points out that Louis C.K. indeed does have a history of grasping these kinds of issues, and provided this handy little graphic with a great quote from the comedian:
![louisck Louis C.K.: The Only Comedian So Far Who Doesnt Get It [UPDATED]](http://cdn.truthwinsout.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/louisck.jpg "louisck")
Which leads me to ask again: What about what happened with Tracy Morgan is so complicated that Louis doesn’t get it? The problem. Was. That the rant. Was not part. Of the comedy. Routine.
I have made the point repeatedly throughout this situation, that this has absolutely nothing to do with the content of comedy routines. I indeed told another commenter directly that I believe that there should be no topic off limits for comedians. The only ground rule is that, if you’re going to be super-offensive, you should also be, you know, FUNNY. This was more of a Michael Richards meltdown situation, i.e. not comedy.
Maybe you should become more aware of Louis C.K.
http://www.queerty.com/whens-the-last-time-you-told-your-straight-buddies-about-gay-sex-clubs-20100630/
I think a lot of us in the LGBT community can be a little too overly sensitive sometimes!
That’s right Alonzo, I’m being over-sensitive. I have such a reputation for that.
I’m simply asking “WTF, dude?” And if he is so supportive, why is he so confused about this? Has he simply not read about it, like Chris Rock before he amended his statements?
Yes Evan in my comment I accuse you directly as being over-sensitive.
I don’t think Louis is confused he said point blank that what Tracy said was “evil, cruel, ignorant” but he also thought it was FUNNY! Just because someone doesn’t think something is funny doesn’t mean everyone else should find it unfunny as well.
I think you’re missing the fact that actual people, in the audience, were hurt by Morgan’s rant?
And again…the idea of me as over-sensitive is a bit cute.
He didn’t really elaborate on what he meant by “funny”. For all we know, maybe he thought it was “funny” in a schaudenfraude, ending-your-career sense. Maybe he thought that the fact that the guy had a meltdown in the middle of his comedy routine was hilarious. I dunno.
Was Louis CK in the audience that night? AFAIK there’s no video or even audio of what he said. So on what basis does Louis CK conclude that it was funny?
Good question.
Alonzo, to elaborate on me saying that the idea of me as over-sensitive is cute: I am probably the LAST of the writers in the gay media to get all bothered by some dumb crap a celebrity says. Indeed, the week before the Tracy thing, Zack Galiafanakis made some joke that offended some gays and I was like “whaaaat?” I don’t even pay attention when some celebrity says something stupid on Twitter. There was seriously something about this that was way over and beyond.
Moreover, I’m also one of the last gay writers to get all bothered by language police kind of crap. It annoys me. I’m kind of like Dan Savage in this regard. [Oh, and Savage gets why this is relevant. Savage will never be accused of being over-sensitive.] So it’s just…I feel like you’re either missing something or being contrary for its own sake.
@evan,
maybe over sensitive is the wrong phrase,, how about rabidly aggrieved?
Look fact of the matter is Morgan said some stupid s**t, has been called out for it, and in his stoned-as-a-stump way apologized for it, again and again and again.
Let’s see some action and cash from him supporting centers and issues important to the LGBT community and move on.
I am not willing to give him a pass because he is a comedian, and frankly I have always felt he was the weakest part of 30 Rock but that is me.
I am willing to give him a shot, like all the other rabid stupid speaking idiots who mouth off a few times (in public awareness) and then get turned into visible LGBT supporters.
As for Louis C.K., another comedian who I would not buy a ticket for, but who is certainly not a homophobe in his routines.
He is right, it was a comedy routine that went really bad! no matter the reason or what you believe or think, that is the context it was said in.
Were people in the audience hurt by it? I am sure there were. Is he the first comedian to blow it big time on stage? NOPE. Is he the first to use homophobic statements in comedy? NOPE, hell look at eddy murphy and dozens of others.
should we all just get along? sure why not-won’t happen but lets give it a try.
The fact this article even exists indicates to me you don’t have enough real s**t on your plate to deal with.. knitting as a hobby might fill that extra time.
@Mikenola, I’ll deal with the rest of your response later, as I have to run out, but in case you’re new, I work at Truth Wins Out. As in, this is my job, not a hobby. The fact that I broke the story should…
Oh i’m not dealing with it right now. Off the clock.
“I think a lot of us in the LGBT community can be a little too overly sensitive sometimes!”
Evan – where in that comment do you assume that I was speaking directly to you? I was speaking in general terms which I thought was clear.
@Andrea since there is no video or audio on what basis does you or anyone else conclude that it wasn’t funny?
@Alonzo: If I can give an outsider perspective on the issue of sensitivity:
Alonzo, in some ways, you may be correct that the gay community tends to be a bit over sensitive when it comes to derogatory comments made by Hollywood stars and comedians. There are some comments that these people have made that really get to me and I tend to get a little mad. However, in the free market exchange of ideas, I can choose to agree to disagree with what the statement is…
On the other hand, think about it like this: What if Tracey Morgan had made those remarks about another group of people…say, CHRISTIANS AND JEWS! You don’t think that a huge outrage would surge up and people would call for Tracey to be FIRED from 30 Rock? So, we just let people besmirch the gay community and not hold them accountable for their actions…just take it(pardon the pun) “laying down”?
Granted, this is America. And as Americans, we have the right to say what we want to say regardless of who it hurts. However, what Tracey did was short of yelling FIRE in a crowded movie theater. Myself, as a gay man, would not consider buying a ticket if my life depended on it from Tracey Morgan to see his show. Was he sorry for what he did? I don’t think he is…I think he is just sorry that he got caught “in the act” and is now regretting his “choice of words.”
@Ray I do believe there would have been an outrage had he made the same comments about Christians and Jews or any other group of people for that matter and I would think they were being overly sensitive as well.
Let me state because I strongly believe in free speech all those who are outraged by all of this have every right to call out anyone who might offend them.
That being said to me it’s just words by a 3rd rate comedian (Morgan) that don’t mean anything.
OK I’m thinking maybe Louis CK didn’t actually see or read what Tracy Morgan said. Louis CK can actually tell hilarious jokes about gay people without them being offensive and has great messages in his routines that are LGBT supportive. He’s funny and brilliant. Don’t jump all over him because he used one bad adjective. http://youtu.be/HtJ_sDRRVVI
Dusty, that is entirely possible.
Whether it is “funny” or not is completely irrelevant. When was the last time somebody told a joke that everybody found funny? Comedy is divisive, it appeals to different people for different reasons. If we now start judging the moral character of a comedian because some bitter person that didn’t find it funny posted a few lines out of context on their blog then we live in desperate times indeed. I didn’t see it. I wasn’t there. But it seems as though every single person that didn’t find it funny was there. You haven’t mentioned whether you were there or not – that is very important because you seem to be talking as if you were.
I wonder what the reaction of WingNuts would be if a comedian said he would kill his son if he discovered he was a Christian.
Chris, Louis CK wasn’t there either. Since you claim the one person who actually does seem to have been there is “bitter” you seem to have a lot of knowlege about it. Now, tell me, under what circumstances joking about stabbing a child for being gay would be funny. And seeing as how Tracy Morgan immediately apologized I’m can be as sure as you are that the person who complained was “bitter” that even Morgan didn’t think his “joke” (which was really a rant) was funny.
Im a little confused. its also 2:15 am and i only read the first few angry comments following the picture of Louis CK quite obviously being pro-gay marriage and anti-stupid people.
are people fighting over some defense he made? are they accusing him of being homophobic? what the hell is going on here? am i missing some crucial underlying point he is making in that really funny statement?
louis’ kids are going to be complete failures
liberals don’t know how to raise kids thats why they follow the communist party
communists breed failure it’s all they have ever done
As opposed to conservative children who end up with a host of complexes due to the physical and mental abuse their parents inflict on them sean?