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	<title>Comments on: New York Times Covers California Ex-Gay Therapy Ban</title>
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	<description>Fighting antigay lies and the ex-gay myth</description>
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		<title>By: New York Times: ‘Ex-Gay’ Men Fight Back Against View That Homosexuality Can’t Be Changed &#124; Daily Queer News</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/news/2012/10/30023/comment-page-1/#comment-82201</link>
		<dc:creator>New York Times: ‘Ex-Gay’ Men Fight Back Against View That Homosexuality Can’t Be Changed &#124; Daily Queer News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 12:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] California, Gov. Jerry Brown recently signed SB 1172 that stops quack therapists from practicing dangerous “ex-gay” techniques on minors. This is [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] California, Gov. Jerry Brown recently signed SB 1172 that stops quack therapists from practicing dangerous “ex-gay” techniques on minors. This is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Stone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 04:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The ignorant misguided parents will just follow the carpetbaggers to another state that happily condones this nonsense...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ignorant misguided parents will just follow the carpetbaggers to another state that happily condones this nonsense&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JohnAGJ</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/news/2012/10/30023/comment-page-1/#comment-79602</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnAGJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 01:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So is Pickup unwittingly conceding that there are &quot;homosexual feelings which ARE authentic&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is Pickup unwittingly conceding that there are &#8220;homosexual feelings which ARE authentic&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/news/2012/10/30023/comment-page-1/#comment-79601</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gah. Wrong topic. Sorry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gah. Wrong topic. Sorry</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/news/2012/10/30023/comment-page-1/#comment-79600</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing but a bunch of self-contradictory crap.

The &quot;I&#039;m just stating my opinion&quot; and &quot;Let&#039;s agree to disagree&quot; lines are become more popular and even more tiresome. They are acting like they are sitting in an ivory tower and having a polite, purely theoretical debate. They aren&#039;t admitting that this is about the lives of real people who are affected in very direct and drastic ways. In that case, no, there isn&#039;t a nice debate to be had after which you can just disagree and do nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing but a bunch of self-contradictory crap.</p>
<p>The &#8220;I&#8217;m just stating my opinion&#8221; and &#8220;Let&#8217;s agree to disagree&#8221; lines are become more popular and even more tiresome. They are acting like they are sitting in an ivory tower and having a polite, purely theoretical debate. They aren&#8217;t admitting that this is about the lives of real people who are affected in very direct and drastic ways. In that case, no, there isn&#8217;t a nice debate to be had after which you can just disagree and do nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: PJB863</title>
		<link>http://www.truthwinsout.org/news/2012/10/30023/comment-page-1/#comment-79599</link>
		<dc:creator>PJB863</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;.....conservative religious leaders who promote methods that they say can reduce homosexual desire have condemned the new law as a violation of free choice.&quot;

Does this mean these religious leaders are now suddenly pro-choice or just when it suits their agenda?  Their hypocrisy is showing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;..conservative religious leaders who promote methods that they say can reduce homosexual desire have condemned the new law as a violation of free choice.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does this mean these religious leaders are now suddenly pro-choice or just when it suits their agenda?  Their hypocrisy is showing.</p>
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		<title>By: John Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have often commented to my fellow therapists that it is not the role of the therapist to determine for a client what their client&#039;s sexual orientation is. It is the role of the therapist to assist the client to discover and accept what her/his orientation really is. I agree with francesco t in this regard. If someone has been abused and confused, they deserve assistance in overcoming the effects of abuse and clarifying their sexuality. No client deserves to be further abused by a therapist who thinks it is god&#039;s will they become straight. Reparative therapy is itself sexual abuse. Just as religious leaders and practitioners need to be held accountable for physically abusing children, they need to be held accountable for emotionally abusing children. Religion is no excuse for either form of abuse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have often commented to my fellow therapists that it is not the role of the therapist to determine for a client what their client&#8217;s sexual orientation is. It is the role of the therapist to assist the client to discover and accept what her/his orientation really is. I agree with francesco t in this regard. If someone has been abused and confused, they deserve assistance in overcoming the effects of abuse and clarifying their sexuality. No client deserves to be further abused by a therapist who thinks it is god&#8217;s will they become straight. Reparative therapy is itself sexual abuse. Just as religious leaders and practitioners need to be held accountable for physically abusing children, they need to be held accountable for emotionally abusing children. Religion is no excuse for either form of abuse.</p>
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		<title>By: francesco t</title>
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		<dc:creator>francesco t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 20:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ridicoulus!!! if someone is abused and have consequences because of it (surely not homosexuality , but sexually confused at maximum) , the therapist is allowed to CURE him from his sexual confusion. and that DOES NOT mean that he have to FORCE him through heterosexuality, but it means that he has to analyze ,  help the client to UNDERSTAND HIMSELF, to UNDERSTAND WHO HE REALLY IS. forcing someone through a particoular sexual orientation is FORBIDDEN  and is an abuse of the psychologist profession.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ridicoulus!!! if someone is abused and have consequences because of it (surely not homosexuality , but sexually confused at maximum) , the therapist is allowed to CURE him from his sexual confusion. and that DOES NOT mean that he have to FORCE him through heterosexuality, but it means that he has to analyze ,  help the client to UNDERSTAND HIMSELF, to UNDERSTAND WHO HE REALLY IS. forcing someone through a particoular sexual orientation is FORBIDDEN  and is an abuse of the psychologist profession.</p>
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