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17About the Author
Wayne Besen is the Founding Executive Director of Truth Wins Out and author of “Anything But Straight: Unmasking the Scandals and Lies Behind the Ex-Gay Myth” (Haworth, 2003). In 2010, Besen was awarded the “Visionary Award” at the Out Music Awards for organizing the American Prayer Hour, an event which shined a spotlight on the role American evangelicals played in the introduction of Uganda’s Anti-Homosexuality Bill.
I would love to know who made that video for NOM. By that creepy accent of the female narrator, my hunch is that they were South African.
When people who discriminate against others have to defend themselves by saying they are not bigoted, you know they are bigoted.
I always love it when the scientifically illiterate scumbag fundies mention biology – a field of science that proves beyond any doubt that sexual orientation is in part biological.
“Scumbag fundies” is right on the mark.
This pro same sex arguments are so stereotype mechanical and narrow. When you talk of raising childern as a gay couple what exactly does this mean when between the gay lovers there is no children born. What do they talk of adoption instead when they can produce children. This is all sickening immoral and trush that has invaded mankind and is being prodected with some legal and distorted logic. Oh!, if it is loved in the west, Africa is no party to it.
But killing people is moral eresu?
Nobody in Uganda has been killed on account of being gay. It is what some gay activists and those purporting to be gay from Uganda who want to use the gay&lesbian tag to justify aquisition of visas to enter western countries as a justification so that they get sympathy and they enter your countries when some of them are indeed not gay or lesibian. Please check this before concluding gays are killed in Uganda. But the fact of the matter is that gay& lesbian issue is a moral problem the west must seriously address itself to otherwise this is one form of human deccadance leading to the destruction of the human race. Unless one can convince anybody how else the human race can conitnue to exsist outside normal family of man and woman the contention is that Gay&lesbian life is just a scam that must be prevented and cured just as the fight is to cure aids.
eresu – You say that homosexuality must be illegal, because it is moral and health problem and destroys society. Dozens and dozens countries in the world have gay marriages and civil unions for gay people. In more than hundred countries in the world is homosexuality legal. Try to compare (for example)Europe(homosexuality is legal) and Africa(homosexuality is illegal). What is the standard of living in this countries? You still think that gay people are problem?
Oh no!, the standard of living concept and homosexuality are two different issues. The higher standard of living in the west is not due to legal homosexuality and it is not homosexuality that is resposible for it.On the contrary, it is homosexuality that will destroy it because as more become perverted by this vice, there will be less human beings born to preserve this standard of living. This is the very reason why homosexuality is discouraged in Africa cause, it has no effect in the preservation of human race and unfortunately. it is evil; just tell me who of you has a male mother or a female father. May I inform further that the standard of living taked about is a product of colonialism, exploitation and supression by the west of other races over a long time and these led to the transfere of resources to the west. Ask why todate the Congo, despite all these UN troops is unstable.
You are right: “The higher standard of living in the west is not due to legal homosexuality and it is not homosexuality that is resposible for it.” I want to say: Homosexuality has not effect for society. It is what I say. If higher standart of living is not due legal homosexuality, it means that lower standart is not due homosexuality. Eresu simply cannot have it both ways. Sorry.
By the way, attraction to same sex is not choice. Attraction to opposite sex is not choice. Certain percentage of people are gay, certain percentage of people are straight. Certain percentage of animals are gay, certain percen percentage of animals are straight Homosexuality can not be more prevalent due propaganda or whatever, because people can not decide fall in love or be attracted to same/opposite sex. You can choose?
To protect the standard of living needs the renewal of human race, just as since time immemorial through the times of Albert Heinstain todate and for the futureto come. Homosexuality cannot fulfill this obligation instead it reverses it, because no human can and will ever be born from homosexuality. So what is the purpose of doing something which at the end of the day is self destructive. I suppose you are young able person now, can you tell the world what you will reflect of your life at old age?. You will be counting how many homsexual relationships you will have gone through when you were young?. If our fore parents did these things, would we be here today?. Take it or leave it, this homosexuality thing is a serious moral dificit to our generation and it must be fought
how would allowing gay people the same rights everyone has stop others from making babies..homosexuality is not a new thing which just came out of the sky.. it has been around forever.. yet the planet is on it’s way to overpopulation.. your claim doesn’t make any sense.. how have gay people destroyed any society..when and where has this happened.. you don’t know what you’re talking about… furthermore gay people have and are raising children, about two million of them in the usa… so again your point doesn’t make any sense..
I am heterosexual man. I have not homosexual relationship. Again, homosexuality is not choice or disease. It is not spreading. If everyone was gay, we would fall as a species, ok. If everyone was male we would fall as a species, does that mean men should be eradicated? Be homosexual is not (self)destructive. Homosexuality is here thousands of years and number of people is still higher! Animals are gay, people are gay thousands of years and Earth and human race is still living but you think that homosexuality is end of the world and human race. It is weird.
Oh for Creiss sakes eresu, at least get some bogus arguments from the 21st century! That ‘they can’t reproduce’ canard went out with shag rugs and lava lamps. The earth can barely sustain the exploding human population as it is now and you’re still bitching about being ‘fruitful’. Bedsides, lots of straight people don’t have children (including *monks, nuns, and priests*) and lots of gay people DO; sometimes we have our own and often we adopt the throw away kids that you’ holier than thou’ heteros don’t want.
Eresu dishonestly claims no one has been killed in Uganda because they are gay. In fact a Ugandan newspaper printed names and addresses of 100 gay men under the headline “Hang them” and shortly after that David Kato was killed. Uganda is trying to pass an anti-homosexuality law that will kill gays who have sex more than once or with a disabled person and imprison friends and relatives of gays who do not turn in their gay loved one. Gays are commonly beaten and killed in Uganda due to the crazed anti-gay hatred exhibited by Ugandans like Eseru.
Eseru tries to justify his genocidal ideas by falsely claiming gays threaten the standard of living in a country because that standard of living depends on repopulation and gays do not reproduce. First it is false that gays do not reproduce, gays are frequently parents. Second as Gary said the planet is chocking itself todeath with an unchecked human reproduction that can’t be sustained which will eventually lead to starvation and a massive die off of people. This is happening despite Eresu’s complaint that gays aren’t reproducing (enough) so in fact the existance of gays and lesbians far from being a threat to rampant human reproduction are in fact beneficial to slowing down the rate at which this planet is overpopulating itself.
In fact one of the main reasons the west enjoys a higher standard of living than Africa is precisely because the birth rate is lower. Africans have very large families that they often can’t sustain and the economic burden of supporting large families drives most Africans into poverty. It is only when women can be educated and have control of their reproductive lives and can limit the number of children they have do we see a rising standard of living.
It is no coincidence that the cities and neighbourhoods that thrive the best have a significant well accepted population of gays. Neighbourhoods that aren’t discriminatory and promote high levels of diversity are more productive, have a wider range of smarter and creative people and ultimately produce a higher standard of living.
I don’t know why you’re trying to argue with him, except forthe exercise.
He has just enough education to be stupid, and a sufficiency of blindness to demonstrate one of the reasons Africa is what it is. Not the only reason, but certainly a noticeable one.
a real big one is the failure to recognize the many negative legacies of colonialism, including that there were many tribal homelands that were simply patched together to make a European colony, and patched somewhat differently to make an African nation. they aren’t and they weren’t, As the slaughter in Rwanda showed.
In other news, 8 good Christians were murdered by Muslims in Nigeria yesterday. Or maybe it was the other way around. The country is, I believe, on the brink of civil war between the two groups.
In other news, the millions of people living around the African Great Lakes in four different countries are causing the lakes to go bad, the water tableto drop, and fishing to disappear.
religion news: those extremely moral African Christians who only follow the word of god also practice…wait for it…polygamy!!!! One man and one woman, unless you’re African and can change to word o’ god. Musaveni has four wives, for example. God knows how many Mugabe jas. How would you lokethat coming atyou in the middle ofthe night?
Proving nice again that its only heterosexuals who want to marry polygamous ly, or marry the Eiffel Tower, or whatever.
Eresu, all your prattle shows is not the “rightness” of your antipathy to gay people– not to mention love and let Live and not judging others– but that very backward and violent thinking usually come from very backward and violent places.
We have the exact same problem in our own south. Mississippi is about as southern as you can get in this country, as Religous as you can get, and not surprisingly, has the worse possible statistics in just about every measure.
Food for thought.