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	<title>Comments on: Desert Scream: Exodus Leader&#8217;s Shocking Admissions of Ministry&#8217;s Sexual Abuse</title>
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	<description>Fighting antigay lies and the ex-gay myth</description>
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		<title>By: Truth Wins Out &#8211; Ex-Gay Circus Act Richard Cohen Hits Gusher With Huge Influx Of Cash To Target School Children</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth Wins Out &#8211; Ex-Gay Circus Act Richard Cohen Hits Gusher With Huge Influx Of Cash To Target School Children</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] ex-gay quack groups, like Cohen&#8217;s crackpot organization. Some of the groups listed, such as Desert Stream, present a clear and present danger to kids. Check out this video so you can see how dishonest and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ex-gay quack groups, like Cohen&#8217;s crackpot organization. Some of the groups listed, such as Desert Stream, present a clear and present danger to kids. Check out this video so you can see how dishonest and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Wins Out - Is Grandview, Missouri The Next Colorado Springs?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth Wins Out - Is Grandview, Missouri The Next Colorado Springs?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 16:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Engle&#8217;s The Call, which is in nearby Overland Park, KS. Additionally, Grandview is home to the notorious &#8220;ex-gay&#8221; organization Desert Stream Ministries, which has a worldwide reach with its Living Waters &#8220;pray away the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Engle&#8217;s The Call, which is in nearby Overland Park, KS. Additionally, Grandview is home to the notorious &#8220;ex-gay&#8221; organization Desert Stream Ministries, which has a worldwide reach with its Living Waters &#8220;pray away the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Wins Out - TWO Special Report: The Exodus Smokescreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth Wins Out - TWO Special Report: The Exodus Smokescreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Desert Stream Ministries, based in Kansas City, tells clients “the cross is God’s answer to homosexuality.” Exodus can play semantic games all it wants, but reasonable people will conclude that these programs sound an awful lot like “praying away the gay.” [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Desert Stream Ministries, based in Kansas City, tells clients “the cross is God’s answer to homosexuality.” Exodus can play semantic games all it wants, but reasonable people will conclude that these programs sound an awful lot like “praying away the gay.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: roofs new york</title>
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		<dc:creator>roofs new york</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 07:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I need to check with you here, which is not something I usually do! I take pleasure in reading a website that can make individuals think. Also, thanks for allowing me to remark!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need to check with you here, which is not something I usually do! I take pleasure in reading a website that can make individuals think. Also, thanks for allowing me to remark!</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Wins Out - TWO Protests Exodus in New Hampshire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth Wins Out - TWO Protests Exodus in New Hampshire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] International. The &#8220;ex-gay&#8221; hate conference was led by Andy Comisky, the leader of Desert Stream ministries. Here is what he says about LGBT people: In his book “Pursuing Sexual Wholeness,” Comisky calls [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] International. The &#8220;ex-gay&#8221; hate conference was led by Andy Comisky, the leader of Desert Stream ministries. Here is what he says about LGBT people: In his book “Pursuing Sexual Wholeness,” Comisky calls [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Wins Out - Exodus&#8217; 2011 Game Plan: Target Middle School Kids</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth Wins Out - Exodus&#8217; 2011 Game Plan: Target Middle School Kids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 19:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] home church”, Vineyard Anaheim, as a result of “a darker strain of sin in our own ranks.” He goes onto reveal that this sin was, “a longstanding staff person from Desert Stream had sexually abused at least [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] home church”, Vineyard Anaheim, as a result of “a darker strain of sin in our own ranks.” He goes onto reveal that this sin was, “a longstanding staff person from Desert Stream had sexually abused at least [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Besen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Besen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry, but to say that Exodus and Desert Stream are separate is not credible.

Andy&#039;s books are the Exodus lesson plan in many of the ministries. They sell his books at conferences - and he keynotes their conferences. Andy is very much part of Exodus and they are part of him. The evidence on this front is overwhelming and incontrovertible. 

Desert Stream is recommended reading:
http://www.exodusinternational.org/content/view/949/35/

Desert Stream is listed as a member ministry: 
http://www.exodusinternational.org/content/view/412/178/State/mo

While I don&#039;t mind when people disagree, I don&#039;t like being spun. Andy = Exodus. Period. That the formal chain of command is not identical is irrelevant, quite frankly. Exodus should cut ties to Andy, given what occurred at his organization. 

As to his mental state when the sexual abuse occurred -  who cares? The question is, what did he do to prevent the molestation and what has he done since to stop it from occurring again? What training to his counselors undergo? 

These are the questions that need to be answered.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but to say that Exodus and Desert Stream are separate is not credible.</p>
<p>Andy&#8217;s books are the Exodus lesson plan in many of the ministries. They sell his books at conferences &#8211; and he keynotes their conferences. Andy is very much part of Exodus and they are part of him. The evidence on this front is overwhelming and incontrovertible. </p>
<p>Desert Stream is recommended reading:<br />
<a href="http://www.exodusinternational.org/content/view/949/35/" rel="nofollow">http://www.exodusinternational.org/content/view/949/35/</a></p>
<p>Desert Stream is listed as a member ministry:<br />
<a href="http://www.exodusinternational.org/content/view/412/178/State/mo" rel="nofollow">http://www.exodusinternational.org/content/view/412/178/State/mo</a></p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t mind when people disagree, I don&#8217;t like being spun. Andy = Exodus. Period. That the formal chain of command is not identical is irrelevant, quite frankly. Exodus should cut ties to Andy, given what occurred at his organization. </p>
<p>As to his mental state when the sexual abuse occurred &#8211;  who cares? The question is, what did he do to prevent the molestation and what has he done since to stop it from occurring again? What training to his counselors undergo? </p>
<p>These are the questions that need to be answered.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Coe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Coe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Setting the record straight for I was there when all this happened. Andy was grieved and heart stricken at what occurred with this young man and the affects it had on him and his family. He was very angry at the leader and the appropriate response was had. As to Exodus and Desert Stream you are looking at two different organizations. This would be like asking Mobil to deal with BP&#039;s gulf oil spill.  

As to hiding the truth nothing was hidden from anyone except the leader trying to hide his abuse. The leader did face some jail time to my knowledge. As to moving Desert Stream to Kansas City this had nothing to do with the move. I think more to do with finances and the sense it was time to move and the door was open in Kansas City. Not defending Desert Stream and their beliefs but trying to set the record straight since I was there when all this happened.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Setting the record straight for I was there when all this happened. Andy was grieved and heart stricken at what occurred with this young man and the affects it had on him and his family. He was very angry at the leader and the appropriate response was had. As to Exodus and Desert Stream you are looking at two different organizations. This would be like asking Mobil to deal with BP&#8217;s gulf oil spill.  </p>
<p>As to hiding the truth nothing was hidden from anyone except the leader trying to hide his abuse. The leader did face some jail time to my knowledge. As to moving Desert Stream to Kansas City this had nothing to do with the move. I think more to do with finances and the sense it was time to move and the door was open in Kansas City. Not defending Desert Stream and their beliefs but trying to set the record straight since I was there when all this happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Finding Purpose in Church</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finding Purpose in Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 03:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good content, is this like a sales site for something or is it your content, because it&#039;s really good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good content, is this like a sales site for something or is it your content, because it&#8217;s really good.</p>
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		<title>By: St?©phane</title>
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		<dc:creator>St?©phane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 06:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I quite do no understand is why go public with such a scandal and admit that a DSM member &quot;sexually abused at least one teenager who had sought help&quot; and then bless God for not have to account for anything?

I would expect at least apologies to this teenager and his family and some clarification on how they expect to prevent new cases in the future. Basically if I were a DSM member and had children (gay or not) after reading this it would mean that potentially my kid can be abused by a &quot;staff member&quot; and I would find out to late because they basically hide the truth.

At some point he says &quot;Vineyard elders[...] for good reason wanted to know what was really going on in Desert Stream Ministries&quot;. I bet they did! And actually everyone reading this post wants to know what DSM is up to now...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I quite do no understand is why go public with such a scandal and admit that a DSM member &#8220;sexually abused at least one teenager who had sought help&#8221; and then bless God for not have to account for anything?</p>
<p>I would expect at least apologies to this teenager and his family and some clarification on how they expect to prevent new cases in the future. Basically if I were a DSM member and had children (gay or not) after reading this it would mean that potentially my kid can be abused by a &#8220;staff member&#8221; and I would find out to late because they basically hide the truth.</p>
<p>At some point he says &#8220;Vineyard elders[...] for good reason wanted to know what was really going on in Desert Stream Ministries&#8221;. I bet they did! And actually everyone reading this post wants to know what DSM is up to now&#8230;</p>
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