GLAAD, PFLAG and GLSEN slammed the Dr. Oz show today for its crappy episode that appeared to legitimize reparative theapy. According to their statement:
Producers of the Dr. Oz Show framed their program on so-called reparative therapy in a way that provided a lengthy platform for junk science. Dr. Oz himself never weighed in, and the audience was misled to believe that there are actual experts on both sides of this issue. There are not.
For the record, Truth Wins Out was contacted by a producer for the show. We offered to provide myself as a guest to give a broad perspective on these groups. Additionally, we offered to provide America’s top scientists who deal with sexual orientation — you know, real researchers who actually use test tubes and microscopes and actually know something about the issue. The producers arrogantly declined our assistance and the result, as I vividly warned, is that Dr. Oz is being condemned today.
If Dr. Oz claims that he wasn’t offered advice, facts, or experts he is not being truthful. This train wreck could have — and should have — been avoided.
In the 1970′s, daytime TV was helpful to the LGBT community. It gave us a rare chance to be heard — even if we were portrayed as freaks — and it helped erase the stigma that came from invisibility. Today, I have my doubts about whether we should still be participating in daytime TV. The producers on these shows seem significantly dimmer than the ones on real news shows. There is virtually no interest in exploring issues in a meaningful and intelligent, fact-based way. They do virtually no research or a shoddy minimum. The only thing these second-tier producers seem to give a shit about is ratings, even if it comes at the expense of young men and women who will harm themselves by entering “ex-gay” programs.
Dr. Oz is no homophobe, so his half-assed effort was disappointing. Truth Wins Out strongly urges him to revisit the issue in way that more closely mirrors the consensus of the medical and mental health establishment. We have confidence that he can still create a meaningful show that highlights the harm and horror caused by the “ex-gay” myth. Let us hope he learns from this experience and moves on to create better TV in the future. If not, he should give up his microphone and hair product and enter a new field.
Let’s explore this disaster:
Part I
In this segment, Oz interviews NARTH quack and extremist Christopher Doyle. Notice that no one is opposing his blatant lies about the causes of homosexuality. Dr. Oz should be ashamed for providing a platform for such outright lies. He simply allows Doyle to invent “science” that doesn’t exist.
Part II
In this segment, Oz refers to Doyle as an “expert” in this arena. This was unconscionable and conferred credibility that Doyle has not earned. When Doyle said “it works” and offered himself as living proof, why wasn’t Dr. Oz prepared with video of other “ex-gays” who were just as adamant — such as John Paulk and Michael Johnston — who later were shown to still be gay? TWO offered to help with such background material, but the producers had virtually no interest in creating an accurate show filled with historical fact. They were simply going for raw emotion, which Doyle provided. Then, Doyle trotted out his wife. Could Oz not have also had a divorced wife from the Straight Spouse Network on-stage at the same time to relay the reality of such doomed marriages?
(The “ex-gay” groups have often told producers that they would not appear if I were included. An ethical producer would tell such people to get lost — that only the producers decide who goes on. Unfortunately, many producers and hosts are unprofessional and allow “ex-gay” groups to choose their opposition, essentially stacking the deck in their favor. If this is what occurred on Dr. Oz, the producers in charge should be immediately fired for violating professional ethics and journalistic standards)
Part III
This segment purportedly delves into reparative therapy. Oz begins on an awful note by referring to the show as presenting “both sides of the debate,” although the debate has really been settled for decades in the medical and mental health communities. It is shameful and a mark of ignorance that he would frame the issue in such a biased, loaded way.
In this most infuriating of segments, Oz provides a marketing opportunity by filming a puff-piece for Journey into Manhood’s Rich Wyler to promote his $650 weekend “pray away the gay” retreats. Interestingly, he never shows the group’s cuddle room, where men pet, hold, and fondle each other in an allegedly non-sexual way. Why did they even bother making this a segment when they could have simply bought Journey into Manhood a free five minute infomercial? Doyle ends with the bizarre claim he “knew he wasn’t a gay man” which was an interesting assumption on his part considering he was sexually attracted to dudes and sought therapy to change. What he says is incoherent and illogical. But Oz never points out this glaring contradiction.
Part IV
Ex-gay survivors Peter Drake and Gabriel Arana did an admirable job. They were both eloquent and articulate in describing the harm caused by reparative therapy. Unfortunately, by he time they appeared on-screen, there was just too much shit to shovel from the previous NARTH infomercial/segments. Thank you Peter and Gabriel for doing a great job representing our side. You did what you could in the paltry 3 minutes you were allotted to clean up the mess Dr. Oz left for you.
Part V
Gabriel Arana does a good job explaining how reparative therapists manufacture family trauma, which is a common practice. Peter Drake does a fine job discussing how such therapy should not be offered to children. Doyle responds by lying about what he and other reparative therapists actually do and portraying himself as mainstream, when he says, “We don’t tell clients that there is something wrong.”
This is precisely why I needed to be on the show. It was at this critical juncture that I would have been fully prepared and demolished Doyle. Here is a typical quote from Doyle in a World Net Daily op-ed, Warning to homosexual youth, It Gets Worse: “The facts reveal that even in the most gay-friendly cultures, it’s not society that is responsible for the consequences of homosexuality; it’s the behavior. It really makes one ask the question, just what about the homosexual life gets better?” Why wasn’t Dr. Oz prepared with such a quote as Montel Williams had been in a previous daytime show on this topic? Dr. Oz’s lack of preparation was beyond appalling.
Part VI
Singer Clay Aiken was articulate on this issue for a celebrity and comes across as a smart guy. He makes a solid point when he says that he doesn’t think “these therapies help people love themselves.” Author Brad Lamm provides a vivid description on how these therapies often cause self-hated that can lead to people harming themselves.
Part VII
In this segment, Doyle begins by attempting to be the voice of reason. He does so by flat-out dissembling about what reparative therapy actually is and what he and other NARTH therapists do. Lamm does a solid job of cutting through the bullshit and challenging Doyle. (Dr. Warren Throckmorton addresses Doyle’s lies in a post) But the problem comes back to Dr. Oz’s absolutely embarrassing lack of preparation. By not doing his homework, he allowed this to become a he said/she said situation. If he had prepared, he would have flashed actual NARTH quotes or video across the screen that would have backed Lamm. Truth Wins Out offered to assist the producers with such background research — for some bizarre reason, they refused. (Again, were they taking orders from NARTH? It has been confirmed that the producers told other LGBT advocates that I wasn’t available for the show, when I explicitly told them that I was available. They shamelessly lied to appease NARTH’s demands.)
Part VIII
In this segment, Dr. Oz brings out medical professionals. (Why NARTH’s Dr. Julie Hamilton is included in this description is a mystery) Hamilton begins by disingenuously claiming that she is “sorry” for the harm caused to Arana and Drake. Yet, she is a practitioner and promoter of the “ex-gay” con game. Lamm cuts off Hamilton and tells her that she is the problem, not the solution to gay youth depression and suicide. Harvard Dr. John Sharp, MD does a respectable job countering Doyle. In response, Doyle yells, “I’m living proof” that change is possible. Lamm wisely retorts that “ex-gay” history is full of people who loudly proclaimed they are “living proof” only to come out later or be scandalized. Why wasn’t Dr. Oz prepared with examples of such failed “ex-gay” leaders? Why didn’t he ask why Doyle should be trusted given that NARTH has promoted such failed leaders in the past? (George “Rent Boy” Rekers was on NARTH’s board) This was a total and complete failure on the production end of the show. It was amateur hour for Dr. Oz.
Part IX
In this segment, LGBT activists (Eliza Byard, PhD, Ross Murray, Aaron McQuade) speak out against reparative therapy. They all made very salient points and made the LGBT community proud. Hamilton lies through her teeth when she claims, “reparative therapy does not tell children there is something wrong with them.”
Part X
Julie Hamilton continues to dissemble. She thinks that if a religion rejects gay people, that is a good reason to put kids in traumatizing therapy. To hell with the mental health of the LGBT youth if they have the misfortune of having anti-gay religious parents.
Part XI
Here, we get treated to Dr. Oz’s “final thought” which was about as deep as a coral reef at low tide. His solution is that each side should talk to each other. I suppose we can use the same solution with flat earthers too — we can talk until we compromise: the earth is sort of round, but sort of flat, if you stand in the right spot in Kansas.
In the end, Dr. Oz failed to do any meaningful homework and enthusiastically gave a pulpit for quacks to bully gay kids. This was a professional disgrace of epic proportions and Dr. Oz should feel deeply ashamed for broadcasting this monstrosity of a show. That he distanced himself from reparative therapy in a statement released after the show was an essentially meaningless act that won’t undo the damage he caused by abusing the airwaves to promote child abuse disguised as therapy.











I believe the Narth and other anti-gays probably refused to participate in the show unless they could dictate the format and tilt it in their favour. That’s likely how they approach all those shows they are asked to appear on because they know they can’t compete in a balanced forum.
Sad that dr oz failed to do his homework when so many people are being damaged by reparative therapy,which I lived it and survived.
Sad to say, I didn’t expect anything better from this. Corporate television will never give this issue a thorough treatment. It’s too busy trying to sell hemorrhoid cream and Ritz crackers. We should be surprised that they agreed to feature this subject at all. (And they probably think they’ve done more than their job for that very reason.)
The overwhelming flaw in our “news” or “educational” shows: the belief that every issue has two sides, both of which have equal value and worth. Therefore, both must be presented equally.
The valuing of “fair” and “balanced” over “true” or “accurate”.
While it sounds like the program was a sham from the start, I also have sometimes wished programs like this have on people on opposing sides on two separate shows, back-to-back. At least- that way- each side could tell their “story,” or reasoning, without being interrupted or shouted over (a la Bill O’Reilly and the rest who “shout you down.”). I don’t understand WHY…..ANYONE……puts up with that horseshit!!!
Is it possible that at this point, for this type of show, it would be better if nobody who is against “Pray Away the Gay” accepted to appear in “debate” with the quacks in favor of it? Just let the “Dr. Ozs” of the world present the pray away the gayers and then take ownership from the public fallout of having presented them. There is no legitimate scientific debate about the subject of whether sexual orientation can be altered, after all.
The scientific community casually sloughs off the loony ideas of creationism. They, as a whole, make no effort to confront head-on the lies that churches are spreading about science. I think they believe that debating creationism vs. evolution is absurd and demeaning to them.
…’cause it totally it is. Being forced to share a stage with, and be seen as the equal and opposite opinion to, fringe lunatics is completely offensive.
Because the scientific community completely ignores the ridiculous claims of the religious right, 46% of Americans deny evolution. If we ignore the reparative therapy problem, it’ll never go away.
Even worse by letting the anti-gay extremists have a calm discussion with Dr. Oz in the beginning by the time the GLBT community came on to respond they had to do so while being shouted at by the extremists. The whole thing made the panel of gay people look as if they were “bullying” the few extremists who got to have their say “unchallenged” in the opening segments. I have already seen comments online from people saying they thought it was “one sided” against the extremists. That’s because of the way the PRODUCERS handled the show. It looked like a calm man explaining his truth – then angry people coming on to denounce him – when in reality what this man does hurts and kills people! Such a bad production all around. His final thought was really the stupid nail in the coffin. His medical license should really be up for review after this show.
It irks me that Doyle and Hamilton weren’t called on repetitive lies about reparative therapy being the only source of therapy which respects self-determination.
ALL competent therapy is sensitive to clients’ culture and beliefs. NARTH accuses reputable, evidence-based therapy of forcing people, especially youth, to come out, identify as gay, be sexual.
LGBT kids from anti-gay families don’t have easy journeys any way you cut it, and good mental health pros understand that completely.
Putting non-scientific claptrap like this on the air is as damaging as what Donahue did in the 1970s with his idiotic shows about how asthma and other illnesses were “psychological.” As a result of this, my parents took me off medications, refused to deal with my illness and permanently damaged my lungs. I don’t like to think of the damage this might cause kids with similarly backwards parents.
I appreciate this blogger calling the shows guests “quacks,” but I think they’re more malicious than that, considering actual studies have been done proving them wrong.
There is substantial science that says being homosexual cannot be “prayed away” or “cured” (I don’t see that it needs to be “cured,” but that’s a different subject). Here is a link to a blog that looks at a study. I’m no TV producer, yet I found this in minutes. I’m sure we all could find more and so could the team at Dr. Oz, had they tried:
http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2012/03/16/male-sexual-orientation-is-fixed-by-age-15-female-sexual-orientation-is-apparently-changeable/
Reparative therapy is never necessary.
It is never effective.
It is usually harmful.
It sometimes ends in suicide.
Never consider reparative therapy without consulting your medical doctor and your lawyer.
Pay nothing to any reparative therapist unless you get a signed contract confirming the following facts.
No accredited medical school teaches reparative therapy.
No mainstream professional organization certifies reparative therapists.
No reparative therapist is licensed to do such work.
No government rules regulate this profession.
No government agency supervises these treatments.
No reparative therapist carries insurance (because no underwriter will sell it to them).
No health insurance policy covers this treatment (because there is no illness).
The weekly cost is high, and often continues for years or decades.
The outcome is never guaranteed, and the results are often harmful.
There is no scientific evidence that reparative therapy ever worked for anyone.
Reparative therapists can be sued for consumer fraud and medical malpractice.
Do not start treatment until after you receive a written, dated, signed summary of reparative therapy’s success rates, suicides, and lawsuits over the last 10 years.
Here’s your key quote, Wayne: “Why didn’t [Dr. Oz] ask why Doyle should be trusted given that NARTH has promoted such failed leaders in the past? (George ‘Rent Boy’ Rekers) was on NARTH’s board).”
Do you HONESTLY think Dr. Oz and his producers didn’t know about the Rekers scandal? Not only is the Joe.My.God coverage of the story Google Result #4 (if you type in NARTH), but the Rekers story got worldwide headlines and was probably the most mainstream publicity that organization ever got.
It’s not that Oz didn’t know. He just didn’t care. Why? Because it didn’t fit the fake narrative he wanted to construct, which is “there are two sides of this debate.”
Oz didn’t want facts. If he did, the ex-gay episode would’ve been 45 seconds long, or however long it takes to point out that ex-gay therapy has been discredited by every single medical and mental organization in the country. Hey look at that! I just did it in one sentence.
Instead, Oz wanted what appears to be (based on your segment breakdown) a WWE match.
In this corner: “GAYS CAN CHANGE! I’m living proof! Here’s my beautiful wife!”
And in this corner: “Ex-gay therapy harmed me!”
Ratings, not facts. Just like the Lisa Ling show.
The correct way to deal with these people…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4AldshMWqA
Mehmet Oz is by specialty a thoracic surgeon. In today’s medical profession, the closest thing we have to the old-style GP is the specialist in either Internal Medicine or Family Practice. Despite the “MD” after his name, I would no more seek out the likes of Oz if I had pneumonia than I would a dentist if I had a bunion on my left foot. He’s a sellout who is totally in it for the money and I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw my husband’s car.
This sort of thing seems to be a pattern with Oprah Winfrey of recent years. Dr Phil McGraw is another example of a professional who rode to fame on her coattails: He is a psychologist by trade, but uses his PhD as a forum to dispense all sorts of “expert advice” which is completely outside his purview. The psychological community views him with almost unanimous disdain.
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